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    #16
    Originally posted by oshunluvr View Post
    Nope. Never "upgrade", always "full-upgrade". But that's to fully upgrade all the packages on your system. Seems like you're looking for something else.

    "sudo apt update" simply updates the package lists so you can install (or fully upgrade) packages.
    Ohhh. I was reading yesterday there is an "upgradable" (mis-spelled?) that will show you what will be upgraded. I vaguely remember the full-upgrade, but I thought that disappeared around the same time apt-get was shortened to just apt.
    PS Thanks again for the assistance. I just wish I could contribute, rather than ask/beg for help

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      #17
      Originally posted by claydoh View Post
      On a side note, it may be worth updating that old BIOS firmware.
      https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/p...me=BIOS%2FUEFI
      Yeah. not-so good idea. I updated it, and now lost the dual booting. Windows only. FRuiCtcaKe Microsuxs

      EDIT
      https://www.kubuntuforums.net/forum/...inux-dual-boot
      Last edited by CharlieDaves; Mar 22, 2022, 04:32 PM.

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        #18
        Wow, I should have simply searched for the topic first instead of the basic troubleshooting, lol
        I found this via the second search result for " lenovo v14iil ubuntu'

        https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...0/comments/133

        https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Ubuntu/...page=2#5085872

        There are videos on the topic, though not in English.

        You will want to do this in each Linux you have installed

        This *is* over a year old, so the kernel version here will be much newer, but it should be valid





        It seems Elan touchpads are as much a butt-pain and random as Broadcom stuff , and a problem on Windows, by the looks of it
        Last edited by claydoh; Mar 22, 2022, 07:03 PM.

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          #19
          Originally posted by CharlieDaves View Post
          Yeah. not-so good idea. I updated it, and now lost the dual booting. Windows only. FRuiCtcaKe Microsuxs

          EDIT
          https://www.kubuntuforums.net/forum/...inux-dual-boot
          I have already addressed that.

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            #20
            I don't know, claydoh, my HP Envy has an ELAN touchpad and has worked right since day one in K20.04. Even with an external Logitech mouse attached.

            Using hwinfo:

            john@john-HP-ENVY:/boot$ sudo hwinfo --mouse
            33: USB 00.0: 10503 USB Mouse
            [Created at usb.122]
            Unique ID: ds7n.+i6cPjf42e0
            Parent ID: mZxt.lRoCB54l1cE
            SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-2/3-2.2/3-2.2:1.0
            SysFS BusID: 3-2.2:1.0
            Hardware Class: mouse
            Model: "Logitech Unifying Receiver"
            Hotplug: USB
            Vendor: usb 0x046d "Logitech, Inc."
            Device: usb 0xc52f "Unifying Receiver"
            Revision: "30.00"
            Compatible to: int 0x0200 0x0001 "Generic USB Mouse"
            Driver: "usbhid"
            Driver Modules: "usbhid"
            Speed: 12 Mbps
            Module Alias: "usb:v046DpC52Fd3000dc00dsc00dp00ic03isc01ip02 in00 "
            Driver Info #0:
            XFree86 Protocol: explorerps/2
            GPM Protocol: exps2
            Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
            Attached to: #44 (Hub)

            49: PS/2 00.0: 10500 PS/2 Mouse
            [Created at input.249]
            Unique ID: AH6Q.0YZfEcn2sZ6
            Hardware Class: mouse
            Model: "ELAN2514:00 04F3:2B0E"
            Vendor: 0x04f3
            Device: 0x2b0e "ELAN2514:00 04F3:2B0E"
            Compatible to: int 0x0210 0x0000
            Device File: /dev/input/mice (/dev/input/mouse0)
            Device Files: /dev/input/mice, /dev/input/mouse0, /dev/input/event4, /dev/input/by-path/pci-0000:00:15.1-platform-i2c_design
            ware.1-event
            Device Number: char 13:63 (char 13:32)
            Driver Info #0:
            Buttons: 0
            Wheels: 0
            XFree86 Protocol: explorerps/2
            GPM Protocol: exps2
            Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown

            50: PS/2 00.0: 10500 PS/2 Mouse
            [Created at input.249]
            Unique ID: AH6Q.0YZfEcn2sZ6
            Hardware Class: mouse
            Model: "ELAN2514:00 04F3:2B0E Stylus"
            Vendor: 0x04f3
            Device: 0x2b0e "ELAN2514:00 04F3:2B0E Stylus"
            Compatible to: int 0x0210 0x0000
            Device File: /dev/input/mice (/dev/input/mouse1)
            Device Files: /dev/input/mice, /dev/input/mouse1, /dev/input/event7, /dev/input/by-path/pci-0000:00:15.1-platform-i2c_design
            ware.1-event-mouse, /dev/input/by-path/pci-0000:00:15.1-platform-i2c_designware.1-mouse
            Device Number: char 13:63 (char 13:33)
            Driver Info #0:
            Buttons: 0
            Wheels: 0
            XFree86 Protocol: explorerps/2
            GPM Protocol: exps2
            Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown

            51: PS/2 00.0: 10500 PS/2 Mouse
            [Created at input.249]
            Unique ID: AH6Q.mKADyrTWSN9
            Hardware Class: mouse
            Model: "SYNA32AF:00 06CB:CE17 Mouse"
            Vendor: 0x06cb
            Device: 0xce17 "SYNA32AF:00 06CB:CE17 Mouse"
            Compatible to: int 0x0210 0x0002
            Device File: /dev/input/mice (/dev/input/mouse2)
            Device Files: /dev/input/mice, /dev/input/mouse2, /dev/input/event8
            Device Number: char 13:63 (char 13:34)
            Driver Info #0:
            Buttons: 2
            Wheels: 0
            XFree86 Protocol: explorerps/2
            GPM Protocol: exps2
            Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown

            52: PS/2 00.0: 10500 PS/2 Mouse
            [Created at input.249]
            Unique ID: AH6Q.l1YFIcDrQP1
            Hardware Class: mouse
            Model: "SYNA32AF:00 06CB:CE17 Touchpad"
            Vendor: 0x06cb
            Device: 0xce17 "SYNA32AF:00 06CB:CE17 Touchpad"
            Compatible to: int 0x0210 0x0001
            Device File: /dev/input/mice (/dev/input/mouse3)
            Device Files: /dev/input/mice, /dev/input/mouse3, /dev/input/event9, /dev/input/by-path/pci-0000:00:15.0-platform-i2c_design
            ware.0-event-mouse, /dev/input/by-path/pci-0000:00:15.0-platform-i2c_designware.0-mouse
            Device Number: char 13:63 (char 13:35)
            Driver Info #0:
            Buttons: 1
            Wheels: 0
            XFree86 Protocol: explorerps/2
            GPM Protocol: exps2
            Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
            The next brick house on the left
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              #21
              Originally posted by jglen490 View Post
              I don't know, claydoh, my HP Envy has an ELAN touchpad and has worked right since day one in K20.04. Even with an external Logitech mouse attached.
              I am basing this on the sheer number of problems reported/mentioned/complained about, and quite a large number of bug reports on Launchpad. Some people needed a firmware update, an updated kernel with a fix, back when LTS was still on 5.4 others a bios update (Lenovo, to fix some bugered ACPI tables on some models), and others needed the boot parameter tweak. And this was just from one bug report

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                #22
                O.K., been through all the kernels that 20.04 has had to offer. No issues, zero, zip, nada. No arguing, but how can both be right - it doesn't work AND it does work?
                The next brick house on the left
                Intel i7 11th Gen | 16GB | 1TB | KDE Plasma 5.27.11​| Kubuntu 24.04 | 6.8.0-31-generic



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                  #23
                  Originally posted by jglen490 View Post
                  No arguing, but how can both be right - it doesn't work AND it does work?
                  PEBKAC?


                  Sorry. It's much more likely just to be MAGIC.
                  Last edited by Snowhog; Mar 23, 2022, 07:29 AM.
                  Windows no longer obstructs my view.
                  Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
                  "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes

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                    #24
                    I was thinking this could be a hardware failure, as it didn't work in another distro, but I forgot it was apparently working on Windows. But simply searching for lenovo v14iil ubuntu brings up many results for 'my trackpad doesn't work', for multiple laptops models, lenovo in this case. Then scratching the surface and looking at some of the related bug reports, such as this long one, which I linked to above, involved numerous different models with Elan. Granted, the issues seems to have resolved for most, but I usually peek at the very end of these extremely long bug reports to see if any more recent comments might be useful.


                    And the Lenovo forum posts have multiple models with similar hardware.

                    You have one that has a trackpad version that is working correctly. I mean, there isn't just one Elan trackpad chip model.

                    And maybe this only affects some Lenovo specific implementations? I did not dig into other brands.
                    Last edited by claydoh; Mar 23, 2022, 07:47 AM.

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                      #25
                      I, too, have a Lenovo/Elan combo which worked out of the box from day one; it's a bit sensitive but generally OK. As a rule of thumb, I wait for some time before wiping out Windows. For this one, I waited for 2 BIOS updates plus 2 months just in case. Then I let go of Windows.

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                        #26
                        Every piece of hardware in a laptop/PC/ etc., is connected to other pieces/parts. So it could be that the Elan touchpad in certain makes/models are connected differently from other makes/models. The touchpad drivers may be functionally the same in all cases, but differ in their hardware environment. The problem, then, would not be what it seems. So my HP and someone else's Lenovo could have the same Elan touchpad and the same distro, and the same driver, and behave differently. That's why I asked the question, but it's just a loose theory.
                        The next brick house on the left
                        Intel i7 11th Gen | 16GB | 1TB | KDE Plasma 5.27.11​| Kubuntu 24.04 | 6.8.0-31-generic



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                          #27
                          Someone mentioned it, and I tried it, a change to grub. you add a bit to one of those lines. That didn't works either.
                          To Be Honest. I am sick of this ****.
                          NOT The FORUMS or the PEOPLE Contributing. To Those I thank you, a lot.

                          I' might go quiet for awhile so ... um yeah.... Bye I Guess

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                            #28
                            It may be missing driver issue!!!! Check it carefully

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