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    #16
    It's too soon to say anything definitive, but in the 48 hours since losing QtCurve, not a single lockup. Keep in mind that, as my title said, they were back with a vengeance, so 48 hours is quite a long time--compared to freezing up multiple times a day.
    Xenix/UNIX user since 1985 | Linux user since 1991 | Was registered Linux user #163544

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      #17
      Did anyone think QtCurve could've been the culprit? Especially since there were long blocks of time with no lockups, and QtC was always running.

      But now, lockup-free since losing QtC, I'm looking at two possibilities: pure coincidence that the lockups stopped as soon as I dumped QtC, or it was the culprit all along.
      Xenix/UNIX user since 1985 | Linux user since 1991 | Was registered Linux user #163544

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        #18
        TIme will tell. Looking forward to a month of bug free operation!
        "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
        – John F. Kennedy, February 26, 1962.

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          #19
          Indeed, GG. I left EVERYTHING running when I put the laptop to bed last night. Got up this morning, and it's fine.

          If it turns out to be QtCurve, I'll want to know why/what part of it. Like is there a specific element that--when some unknown-to-me event happens--clashes and locks it up? The problem with that is QtC has at least a zillion options. Stepping through them one-by-one to hone in on the bug could take years...
          Xenix/UNIX user since 1985 | Linux user since 1991 | Was registered Linux user #163544

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            #20
            It seems that the Theme that was default when I installed 20.04 is Breeze.qtcurve !
            But, my system is and has been stable as a rock.
            Code:
            [FONT=monospace][COLOR=#000000]:[/COLOR][COLOR=#5454ff][B]~[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]$ [B]locate QtCurve[/B] [/COLOR]
            /usr/share/QtCurve 
            /usr/share/QtCurve/Breeze.qtcurve 
            [/FONT][FONT=monospace]
            [COLOR=#000000]:[/COLOR][COLOR=#5454ff][B]~[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]$ [B]vdir /usr/share/QtCurve/[/B] [/COLOR]
            total 4 
            -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3541 Mar 31  2020 Breeze.qtcurve 
            [/FONT]



            Lots of settings in Breeze.qtcurve. Don't know which, if any, would be helpful in your situation.

            Code:
            [COLOR=#000000]:[/COLOR][COLOR=#5454ff][B]~[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]$ [B]cat /usr/share/QtCurve/Breeze.qtcurve[/B]  [/COLOR]
            [ActiveShadows] 
            Color=75,75,75 
            ColorType=5 
            HOffset=10 
            Size=29 
            VOffset=20 
            
            [KWin] 
            BorderSize=3 
            CustomShadows=true 
            EdgePad=3 
            InnerBorder=0 
            OuterBorder=0 
            
            [Settings] 
            activeTabAppearance=customgradient3 
            animatedProgress=false 
            appearance=customgradient3 
            bgndAppearance=customgradient3 
            bgndGrad=horiz 
            bgndImage=none 
            bgndOpacity=100 
            boldProgress=false 
            borderInactiveTab=false 
            borderMenuitems=false 
            borderProgress=false 
            borderSbarGroove=false 
            borderSelection=false 
            borderTab=true 
            buttonEffect=shadow 
            centerTabText=true 
            colorMenubarMouseOver=true 
            colorSelTab=0 
            colorSliderMouseOver=false 
            coloredMouseOver=colored 
            coloredTbarMo=false 
            comboBtn=none 
            comboSplitter=false 
            crButton=true 
            crColor=none 
            crHighlight=0 
            crSize=15 
            customAlphas=0 
            customMenuNormTextColor=#000000 
            customMenuSelTextColor=#000000 
            customMenuTextColor=false 
            customShades=1.16,1.07,0.9,0.78,0.84,0.87 
            customgradient1=none,0,0.85,0.5,0.85,1,0.85 
            customgradient2=none,0,1,0.5,1,1,1 
            customgradient3=none,0,1,1,1 
            darkerBorders=false 
            defBtnIndicator=glow 
            dlgOpacity=100 
            doubleGtkComboArrow=false 
            drawStatusBarFrames=false 
            dwtAppearance=flat 
            dwtSettings=0 
            embolden=false 
            etchEntry=false 
            expanderHighlight=3 
            fadeLines=false 
            fillProgress=true 
            fillSlider=true 
            flatSbarButtons=true 
            focus=line 
            forceAlternateLvCols=false 
            gbFactor=0 
            gbLabel=9 
            glowProgress=none 
            grooveAppearance=customgradient2 
            groupBox=none 
            gtkButtonOrder=false 
            gtkComboMenus=true 
            gtkScrollViews=false 
            handles=flat 
            hideShortcutUnderline=true 
            highlightFactor=2 
            highlightScrollViews=true 
            highlightTab=false 
            inactiveTitlebarAppearance=flat 
            invertBotTab=false 
            lighterPopupMenuBgnd=15 
            lvAppearance=flat 
            lvButton=false 
            lvLines=false 
            mapKdeIcons=true 
            menuBgndAppearance=flat 
            menuBgndGrad=horiz 
            menuBgndImage=none 
            menuBgndOpacity=100 
            menuDelay=225 
            menuIcons=true 
            menuStripe=none 
            menuStripeAppearance=flat 
            menubarAppearance=flat 
            menubarApps=VirtualBox,smplayer,amarok,arora,kcalc,kaffeine 
            menubarHiding=0 
            menubarMouseOver=true 
            menuitemAppearance=flat 
            noBgndGradientApps= 
            noBgndImageApps= 
            noBgndOpacityApps=dragon,smplayer,vmplayer,vmware,inkscape,totem,kaffeine,kscreenlocker,sonata 
            noMenuBgndOpacityApps=vmplayer,vmware,inkscape,gtk,totem,sonata 
            noMenuStripeApps=soffice.bin,gtk 
            passwordChar=9679 
            popupBorder=false 
            progressAppearance=customgradient3 
            progressColor=origselected 
            progressGrooveAppearance=customgradient1 
            progressGrooveColor=base 
            reorderGtkButtons=false 
            round=slight 
            roundAllTabs=true 
            roundMbTopOnly=false 
            sbarBgndAppearance=flat 
            scrollbarType=none 
            selectionAppearance=customgradient2 
            shadeCheckRadio=origselected 
            shadeMenubarOnlyWhenActive=false 
            shadeMenubars=none 
            shadePopupMenu=true 
            shadeSliders=#3DAEE9 
            shading=hsl 
            sliderAppearance=customgradient2 
            sliderFill=true 
            sliderStyle=circular 
            sliderThumbs=none 
            sliderWidth=9 
            smallRadio=true 
            sortedLv=none 
            splitterHighlight=3 
            splitters=none 
            square=2 
            statusbarApps=kde 
            statusbarHiding=0 
            stdBtnSizes=false 
            stdSidebarButtons=false 
            stripedProgress=none 
            stripedSbar=false 
            sunkenAppearance=customgradient3 
            tabAppearance=customgradient3 
            tabBgnd=2 
            tabMouseOver=glow 
            tbarBtnAppearance=none 
            tbarBtnEffect=none 
            tbarBtns=standard 
            thin=0 
            thinSbarGroove=false 
            titlebarAlignment=left 
            titlebarAppearance=flat 
            titlebarButtonAppearance=flat 
            titlebarButtons=2189 
            titlebarEffect=none 
            titlebarIcon=menu 
            toolbarAppearance=flat 
            toolbarBorders=none 
            toolbarSeparators=flat 
            toolbarTabs=true 
            tooltipAppearance=flat 
            unifyCombo=true 
            unifySpin=true 
            unifySpinBtns=false 
            useHighlightForMenu=true 
            useQtFileDialogApps=googleearth-bin 
            vArrows=false 
            version=1.8.14 
            windowBorder=41 
            windowDrag=3 
            xCheck=false 
            xbar=false
            "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
            – John F. Kennedy, February 26, 1962.

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              #21
              Four days and counting. I'm still kind of shaking my head in disbelief, because I just never thought QtCurve could be the problem. And no one else did either.

              GG, my QtC is very highly customized. It took years to get it just the way I wanted. Some of its features, though, no longer work (on 20.04)--as documented somewhere around here! So now I'm wondering if it's...not exactly deprecated, but something on that spectrum, like on its way out, or works but not really, or...something. You're not having issues, I am. Was. Might. Whatever!
              Xenix/UNIX user since 1985 | Linux user since 1991 | Was registered Linux user #163544

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                #22
                I'm a QtCurve devotee from wayback too. I've never had plasma problems attributable to QtCurve, and in the early days of plasma I had lots of problems...

                Would you like to export your QtCurve settings and post them here?
                Here's mine from my work laptop:
                Code:
                [KWin]
                BorderSize=3
                InnerBorder=0
                OpaqueBorder=false
                OuterBorder=0
                
                [Settings]
                activeTabAppearance=soft
                animatedProgress=false
                appearance=soft
                bgndAppearance=flat
                bgndGrad=horiz
                bgndImage=none
                bgndOpacity=100
                boldProgress=true
                borderInactiveTab=false
                borderMenuitems=true
                borderProgress=true
                borderSbarGroove=true
                borderSelection=false
                borderTab=true
                buttonEffect=shadow
                buttonStyleMenuSections=true
                centerTabText=false
                colorMenubarMouseOver=true
                colorSelTab=0
                colorSliderMouseOver=false
                coloredMouseOver=glow
                coloredTbarMo=false
                comboBtn=none
                comboSplitter=false
                crButton=true
                crColor=none
                crHighlight=0
                crSize=15
                customAlphas=0
                customMenuNormTextColor=#000000
                customMenuSelTextColor=#000000
                customMenuTextColor=false
                customShades=1.16,1.07,0.9,0.78,0.84,0.75
                customgradient1=3d,0,1.2,0.5,1,1,1
                customgradient2=3d,0,0.9,0.5,1,1,1
                darkerBorders=true
                defBtnIndicator=glow
                dlgOpacity=100
                doubleGtkComboArrow=false
                drawStatusBarFrames=false
                dwtAppearance=bevelled
                dwtSettings=33
                embolden=false
                etchEntry=false
                expanderHighlight=10
                fadeLines=true
                fillProgress=true
                fillSlider=true
                flatSbarButtons=true
                focus=glow
                forceAlternateLvCols=false
                gbFactor=-3
                gbLabel=9
                glowProgress=none
                grooveAppearance=inverted
                groupBox=faded
                gtkButtonOrder=false
                gtkComboMenus=false
                gtkScrollViews=true
                handles=1dot
                hideShortcutUnderline=false
                highlightFactor=3
                highlightScrollViews=false
                highlightTab=false
                inactiveTitlebarAppearance=flat
                invertBotTab=true
                lighterPopupMenuBgnd=2
                lvAppearance=bevelled
                lvButton=false
                lvLines=false
                mapKdeIcons=true
                menuBgndAppearance=flat
                menuBgndGrad=horiz
                menuBgndImage=none
                menuBgndOpacity=100
                menuCloseDelay=300
                menuDelay=225
                menuIcons=true
                menuStripe=none
                menuStripeAppearance=darkinverted
                menubarAppearance=flat
                menubarApps=VirtualBox,smplayer
                menubarHiding=0
                menubarMouseOver=true
                menuitemAppearance=fade
                noBgndGradientApps=
                noBgndImageApps=
                noBgndOpacityApps=vmplayer,totem,smplayer,sonata,vmware
                noMenuBgndOpacityApps=gtk,vmplayer,totem,sonata,vmware
                noMenuStripeApps=gtk,soffice.bin
                nonnativeMenubarApps=
                onlyTicksInMenu=false
                passwordChar=9679
                popupBorder=true
                progressAppearance=dullglass
                progressColor=origselected
                progressGrooveAppearance=inverted
                progressGrooveColor=dark
                reorderGtkButtons=false
                round=extra
                roundAllTabs=true
                roundMbTopOnly=true
                sbarBgndAppearance=flat
                scrollbarType=kde
                selectionAppearance=harsh
                shadeCheckRadio=none
                shadeMenubarOnlyWhenActive=false
                shadeMenubars=none
                shadePopupMenu=false
                shadeSliders=#6FFF00
                shading=hsl
                shadowSize=30
                sliderAppearance=soft
                sliderFill=true
                sliderStyle=round
                sliderThumbs=none
                sliderWidth=5
                smallRadio=true
                sortedLv=none
                splitterHighlight=3
                splitters=1dot
                square=1664
                statusbarApps=kde
                statusbarHiding=0
                stdBtnSizes=false
                stdSidebarButtons=false
                stripedProgress=none
                stripedSbar=true
                sunkenAppearance=soft
                tabAppearance=soft
                tabBgnd=0
                tabMouseOver=glow
                tbarBtnAppearance=none
                tbarBtnEffect=none
                tbarBtns=standard
                thin=3
                thinSbarGroove=false
                titlebarAlignment=center-full
                titlebarAppearance=darkinverted
                titlebarButtonAppearance=gradient
                titlebarButtonColors=#000000,#000000,#000000,#000000,#000000,#000000,#000000,#000000,#000000,#000000,#000000,#000000,#000000,#000000,#000000,#000000,#000000,#000000,#000000,#000000,#000000,#000000,#000000,#000000,#000000,#000000,#000000
                titlebarButtons=5
                titlebarEffect=shadow
                titlebarIcon=title
                toolbarAppearance=flat
                toolbarBorders=none
                toolbarSeparators=sunken
                toolbarTabs=false
                tooltipAppearance=gradient
                unifyCombo=true
                unifySpin=true
                unifySpinBtns=false
                useHighlightForMenu=false
                useQtFileDialogApps=
                vArrows=true
                version=1.9.0
                windowBorder=52
                windowDrag=0
                xCheck=false
                My favourite QtCurve feature is the ability to get thin and very visible scroll bars.
                Regards, John Little

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by jlittle View Post
                  I'm a QtCurve devotee from wayback too. I've never had plasma problems attributable to QtCurve, and in the early days of plasma I had lots of problems...

                  Would you like to export your QtCurve settings and post them here?
                  Absolutely. But I have two settings files, one in /usr/share/QtCurve and the other in ~/.local/share/QtCurve, and they're different; I'll post both.

                  /usr/share/QtCurve/Breeze.qtcurve:
                  Code:
                  [ActiveShadows]
                  Color=75,75,75
                  ColorType=5
                  HOffset=10
                  Size=29
                  VOffset=20
                  
                  [KWin]
                  BorderSize=3
                  CustomShadows=true
                  EdgePad=3
                  InnerBorder=0
                  OuterBorder=0
                  
                  [Settings]
                  activeTabAppearance=customgradient3
                  animatedProgress=false
                  appearance=customgradient3
                  bgndAppearance=customgradient3
                  bgndGrad=horiz
                  bgndImage=none
                  bgndOpacity=100
                  boldProgress=false
                  borderInactiveTab=false
                  borderMenuitems=false
                  borderProgress=false
                  borderSbarGroove=false
                  borderSelection=false
                  borderTab=true
                  buttonEffect=shadow
                  centerTabText=true
                  colorMenubarMouseOver=true
                  colorSelTab=0
                  colorSliderMouseOver=false
                  coloredMouseOver=colored
                  coloredTbarMo=false
                  comboBtn=none
                  comboSplitter=false
                  crButton=true
                  crColor=none
                  crHighlight=0
                  crSize=15
                  customAlphas=0
                  customMenuNormTextColor=#000000
                  customMenuSelTextColor=#000000
                  customMenuTextColor=false
                  customShades=1.16,1.07,0.9,0.78,0.84,0.87
                  customgradient1=none,0,0.85,0.5,0.85,1,0.85
                  customgradient2=none,0,1,0.5,1,1,1
                  customgradient3=none,0,1,1,1
                  darkerBorders=false
                  defBtnIndicator=glow
                  dlgOpacity=100
                  doubleGtkComboArrow=false
                  drawStatusBarFrames=false
                  dwtAppearance=flat
                  dwtSettings=0
                  embolden=false
                  etchEntry=false
                  expanderHighlight=3
                  fadeLines=false
                  fillProgress=true
                  fillSlider=true
                  flatSbarButtons=true
                  focus=line
                  forceAlternateLvCols=false
                  gbFactor=0
                  gbLabel=9
                  glowProgress=none
                  grooveAppearance=customgradient2
                  groupBox=none
                  gtkButtonOrder=false
                  gtkComboMenus=true
                  gtkScrollViews=false
                  handles=flat
                  hideShortcutUnderline=true
                  highlightFactor=2
                  highlightScrollViews=true
                  highlightTab=false
                  inactiveTitlebarAppearance=flat
                  invertBotTab=false
                  lighterPopupMenuBgnd=15
                  lvAppearance=flat
                  lvButton=false
                  lvLines=false
                  mapKdeIcons=true
                  menuBgndAppearance=flat
                  menuBgndGrad=horiz
                  menuBgndImage=none
                  menuBgndOpacity=100
                  menuDelay=225
                  menuIcons=true
                  menuStripe=none
                  menuStripeAppearance=flat
                  menubarAppearance=flat
                  menubarApps=VirtualBox,smplayer,amarok,arora,kcalc,kaffeine
                  menubarHiding=0
                  menubarMouseOver=true
                  menuitemAppearance=flat
                  noBgndGradientApps=
                  noBgndImageApps=
                  noBgndOpacityApps=dragon,smplayer,vmplayer,vmware,inkscape,totem,kaffeine,kscreenlocker,sonata
                  noMenuBgndOpacityApps=vmplayer,vmware,inkscape,gtk,totem,sonata
                  noMenuStripeApps=soffice.bin,gtk
                  passwordChar=9679
                  popupBorder=false
                  progressAppearance=customgradient3
                  progressColor=origselected
                  progressGrooveAppearance=customgradient1
                  progressGrooveColor=base
                  reorderGtkButtons=false
                  round=slight
                  roundAllTabs=true
                  roundMbTopOnly=false
                  sbarBgndAppearance=flat
                  scrollbarType=none
                  selectionAppearance=customgradient2
                  shadeCheckRadio=origselected
                  shadeMenubarOnlyWhenActive=false
                  shadeMenubars=none
                  shadePopupMenu=true
                  shadeSliders=#3DAEE9
                  shading=hsl
                  sliderAppearance=customgradient2
                  sliderFill=true
                  sliderStyle=circular
                  sliderThumbs=none
                  sliderWidth=9
                  smallRadio=true
                  sortedLv=none
                  splitterHighlight=3
                  splitters=none
                  square=2
                  statusbarApps=kde
                  statusbarHiding=0
                  stdBtnSizes=false
                  stdSidebarButtons=false
                  stripedProgress=none
                  stripedSbar=false
                  sunkenAppearance=customgradient3
                  tabAppearance=customgradient3
                  tabBgnd=2
                  tabMouseOver=glow
                  tbarBtnAppearance=none
                  tbarBtnEffect=none
                  tbarBtns=standard
                  thin=0
                  thinSbarGroove=false
                  titlebarAlignment=left
                  titlebarAppearance=flat
                  titlebarButtonAppearance=flat
                  titlebarButtons=2189
                  titlebarEffect=none
                  titlebarIcon=menu
                  toolbarAppearance=flat
                  toolbarBorders=none
                  toolbarSeparators=flat
                  toolbarTabs=true
                  tooltipAppearance=flat
                  unifyCombo=true
                  unifySpin=true
                  unifySpinBtns=false
                  useHighlightForMenu=true
                  useQtFileDialogApps=googleearth-bin
                  vArrows=false
                  version=1.8.14
                  windowBorder=41
                  windowDrag=3
                  xCheck=false
                  xbar=false
                  ~/.local/share/QtCurve/mytheme.qtcurve:
                  Code:
                  [KWin]
                  BorderSize=3
                  InnerBorder=0
                  OuterBorder=0
                  
                  [Settings]
                  activeTabAppearance=soft
                  animatedProgress=true
                  appearance=shinyglass
                  bgndAppearance=soft
                  bgndGrad=horiz
                  bgndImage=none
                  bgndOpacity=100
                  boldProgress=true
                  borderInactiveTab=false
                  borderMenuitems=true
                  borderProgress=true
                  borderSbarGroove=true
                  borderSelection=true
                  borderTab=true
                  buttonEffect=shadow
                  buttonStyleMenuSections=true
                  centerTabText=false
                  colorMenubarMouseOver=true
                  colorSelTab=0
                  colorSliderMouseOver=false
                  coloredMouseOver=plastik
                  coloredTbarMo=false
                  comboBtn=#D8D8D8
                  comboSplitter=true
                  crButton=true
                  crColor=selected
                  crHighlight=0
                  crSize=15
                  customAlphas=0
                  customMenuNormTextColor=#000000
                  customMenuSelTextColor=#000000
                  customMenuTextColor=false
                  customShades=1.16,1.07,0.9,0.78,0.84,0.75
                  customgradient1=3d,0,1.2,0.5,1,1,1
                  customgradient2=3d,0,0.9,0.5,1,1,1
                  darkerBorders=true
                  defBtnIndicator=glow
                  dlgOpacity=100
                  doubleGtkComboArrow=true
                  drawStatusBarFrames=true
                  dwtAppearance=shinyglass
                  dwtSettings=93
                  embolden=true
                  etchEntry=true
                  expanderHighlight=3
                  fadeLines=true
                  fillProgress=true
                  fillSlider=true
                  flatSbarButtons=false
                  focus=line
                  forceAlternateLvCols=true
                  gbFactor=-3
                  gbLabel=9
                  glowProgress=end
                  grooveAppearance=raised
                  groupBox=faded
                  gtkButtonOrder=true
                  gtkComboMenus=true
                  gtkScrollViews=true
                  handles=1dot
                  hideShortcutUnderline=false
                  highlightFactor=3
                  highlightScrollViews=false
                  highlightTab=false
                  inactiveTitlebarAppearance=shinyglass
                  invertBotTab=true
                  lighterPopupMenuBgnd=2
                  lvAppearance=raised
                  lvButton=true
                  lvLines=true
                  mapKdeIcons=true
                  menuBgndAppearance=shinyglass
                  menuBgndGrad=horiz
                  menuBgndImage=plainrings
                  menuBgndOpacity=100
                  menuCloseDelay=300
                  menuDelay=200
                  menuIcons=true
                  menuStripe=none
                  menuStripeAppearance=soft
                  menubarAppearance=flat
                  menubarApps=VirtualBox,smplayer
                  menubarHiding=0
                  menubarMouseOver=true
                  menuitemAppearance=shinyglass
                  noBgndGradientApps=
                  noBgndImageApps=
                  noBgndOpacityApps=totem,vmware,sonata,smplayer,vmplayer
                  noMenuBgndOpacityApps=totem,vmware,sonata,gtk,vmplayer
                  noMenuStripeApps=soffice.bin,gtk
                  nonnativeMenubarApps=
                  onlyTicksInMenu=false
                  passwordChar=8727
                  popupBorder=true
                  progressAppearance=shinyglass
                  progressColor=origselected
                  progressGrooveAppearance=inverted
                  progressGrooveColor=dark
                  reorderGtkButtons=false
                  round=slight
                  roundAllTabs=true
                  roundMbTopOnly=true
                  sbarBgndAppearance=shinyglass
                  scrollbarType=kde
                  selectionAppearance=soft
                  shadeCheckRadio=none
                  shadeMenubarOnlyWhenActive=false
                  shadeMenubars=none
                  shadePopupMenu=false
                  shadeSliders=selected
                  shading=hsl
                  shadowSize=30
                  sliderAppearance=shinyglass
                  sliderFill=true
                  sliderStyle=round
                  sliderThumbs=1dot
                  sliderWidth=21
                  smallRadio=false
                  sortedLv=selected
                  splitterHighlight=3
                  splitters=1dot
                  square=1545
                  statusbarApps=kde
                  statusbarHiding=0
                  stdBtnSizes=true
                  stdSidebarButtons=true
                  stripedProgress=diagonal
                  stripedSbar=true
                  sunkenAppearance=bevelled
                  tabAppearance=soft
                  tabBgnd=0
                  tabMouseOver=glow
                  tbarBtnAppearance=shinyglass
                  tbarBtnEffect=shadow
                  tbarBtns=raised
                  thin=0
                  thinSbarGroove=false
                  titlebarAlignment=center
                  titlebarAppearance=shinyglass
                  titlebarButtonAppearance=raised
                  titlebarButtonColors=#27C6FF,#27C6FF,#27C6FF,#27C6FF,#CECECE,#000000,#27C6FF,#000000,#000000,#FFFFFF,#FFFFFF,#FFFFFF,#FFFFFF,#FFFFFF,#000000,#000000,#000000,#000000,#1A89AE,#1A89AE,#1A89AE,#1A89AE,#1A89AE,#000000,#000000,#000000,#000000
                  titlebarButtons=10289
                  titlebarEffect=none
                  titlebarIcon=title
                  toolbarAppearance=shinyglass
                  toolbarBorders=light
                  toolbarSeparators=sunken
                  toolbarTabs=false
                  tooltipAppearance=raised
                  unifyCombo=true
                  unifySpin=true
                  unifySpinBtns=false
                  useHighlightForMenu=false
                  useQtFileDialogApps=
                  vArrows=false
                  version=1.9.0
                  windowBorder=52
                  windowDrag=1
                  xCheck=true
                  My favourite QtCurve feature is the ability to get thin and very visible scroll bars.
                  Yes! And so much more. I love the fine, FINE tuning QtCurve allows, like choosing your own symbol for obfuscating passwords--I like the good old asterisk! Visually, for my tastes, QtC is by far the most beautiful style.
                  Xenix/UNIX user since 1985 | Linux user since 1991 | Was registered Linux user #163544

                  Comment


                    #24
                    I posted the result of system settings, application style, click "configure settings" on the QtCurve choice, export. If you are not importing your QtCurve settings, but just copying them into .local/share/QtCurve, conceivably some validation by using "import" might help.

                    However, comparing your choices with mine, most of them are different, but not in any startling way. I can't set the titlebarButtonColors; the settings sub-window for them is unresponsive. I imagine the "window decorations" theme sets them.

                    In KDE plasma these days there's complicated interactions between the colour scheme, application style, window decorations, and the compositor. I get quite confused and frustrated, and bash away changing this and that till I get something acceptable. It doesn't help that I find the KDE default Breeze themes and anything gnomish awful. However, plasma theming gets less buggy with every release, and the various download settings options have amazing choices. (I wish the plasma widgets had a similar wealth of choices.)

                    So your hangs are provoked by some complex interaction between lots of things. My guess would be kwin, because when plasmashell fails the raw windows still work, including the X root window. (In the early days of plasma the combination of kwin and the nVidia driver for my on-board graphics caused lots of hangs, and sometimes I could get past them by killing and restarting kwin from a linux console.)
                    Regards, John Little

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                      #25
                      @jlittle, I hear you! It's really gotten kind of ridiculous how many things control how many things... I used to know exactly what to choose to get the look I wanted, but now, as you noted, it takes a combination of different things. And, sometimes, settling for less-than-perfect results.

                      I have screenshots from previous versions that show how beautiful my desktops looked; comparing them to what I have now, it's actually quite disappointing. QtCurve, as its own entity, is still good, but some of its components no longer work, and I want them back.

                      But aside from that, other things--like no longer having separate wallpaper per desktop--seem like a *BIG* step backward. I used to turn heads (window$ users) spinning my desktop cube, displaying each desktop with its own wallpaper and widgets, and popping in and out...they didn't even know what 'multiple desktops' WERE, let alone that they could act independently of each other, AND be displayed on a cube you could rotate.

                      Now? For the first time in my Linux life, I've set my number of desktops to 1. Without separate wallpapers, I no longer have any pressing desire to use more than one desktop. And I've been multi-desktop for nearly 40 years!

                      As for my lockups, I had one today, so there goes the 5-day streak. But that's still better than multiple lockups per day. I really think there's a conflict...clash...somewhere, something that isn't obvious to me, but that happens at certain times/events and freezes everything up. I thought I was finally on to something, since the lockups stopped immediately after losing QtC, but now I don't know what to think.
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                        #26
                        What's the longest RAM test you've run since the problem started?
                        Most people run the RAM test for one cycle and if they don't get any problems they call it good. A better run would be over night.
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by DoYouKubuntu View Post
                          But aside from that, other things--like no longer having separate wallpaper per desktop--seem like a *BIG* step backward. I used to turn heads (window$ users) spinning my desktop cube, displaying each desktop with its own wallpaper and widgets, and popping in and out...they didn't even know what 'multiple desktops' WERE, let alone that they could act independently of each other, AND be displayed on a cube you could rotate.
                          You can get separate wallpapers for different virtual desktops with a wallpaper plugin like "Vallpaper" (https://store.kde.org/p/1197828/). Last I checked, it doesn't really work with the cube (the wallpaper changes only after you switch to a new desktop), but the cube is sort of "meh" to me, anyway. The configuration options for Vallpaper are extensive, and it can take a bit of effort to get it right (but on the positive side you do get a lot of options).

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                            #28
                            +1 for Vallpaper. The cube (ctrl-f11) is a bit of a gimmick, looks cool but the scroll-wheel on the desktop or the pager widget are faster, and animate with the correct images with Vallpaper.
                            Regards, John Little

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by GreyGeek View Post
                              What's the longest RAM test you've run since the problem started?
                              Most people run the RAM test for one cycle and if they don't get any problems they call it good. A better run would be over night.
                              I haven't run a memory test, GG. As noted ^ up there somewhere, the System76 instructions for doing this call for a live disk, and mucking about with the BIOS mode. Considering how things have gone for me with this laptop, I am not keen on going there.

                              Originally posted by kubicle View Post
                              You can get separate wallpapers for different virtual desktops with a wallpaper plugin like "Vallpaper" (https://store.kde.org/p/1197828/). Last I checked, it doesn't really work with the cube (the wallpaper changes only after you switch to a new desktop), but the cube is sort of "meh" to me, anyway. The configuration options for Vallpaper are extensive, and it can take a bit of effort to get it right (but on the positive side you do get a lot of options).
                              Yes, I tried Vallpaper (probably at your suggestion! I don't recall right now who it was), but it was clunky and not what I wanted. The ONLY reason I [recently] used multiple desktops was for the fun of having a beautiful, nine-sided cube, each with its own wallpaper (and widgets, when I knew I was going to show off to someone coming over). Like this from 2012:

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                              Before I got sick, I used to use multiple desktops to organize tasks. For example, Internet-related stuff on one desktop, graphics on another, office utilities on another, and so on. Now, I just want my beautiful cube back!
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                                #30
                                Last night I installed memtester, thinking maybe it would help...somehow. I gave it a spin, but I'm wondering if anyone here is really familiar with it, and can guide me on how best to use it for the problem described in this thread. So, for example, running it overnight, then collecting its info and using that to figure out...something. Or am I barking up the wrong tree?
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