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**dibl** · Feb 13, 2010, 04:45 PM

Re: KDE 4.4 does not start after upgrading on kubuntu 9.10

Originally posted by vovams

my computer has been turned off because of a power interruption

That's never a good thing. :P

First try this after you log in at the text prompt:

Code:

sudo dpkg --configure -a

That should fix the broken package situation. Then, I would go ahead and do this:

Code:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
sudo apt-get autoclean

All this is just to fix the packages and package manager. We haven't attempted to fix the broken X server yet. Post back if it looks like it is working correctly thus far, and if so, we can take a shot at fixing your GUI.

**vovams** · Feb 13, 2010, 04:48 PM

Re: KDE 4.4 does not start after upgrading on kubuntu 9.10

I have already tried all that. I have tried now again.

**dibl** · Feb 13, 2010, 04:55 PM

Re: KDE 4.4 does not start after upgrading on kubuntu 9.10

Do the commands end cleanly, with no errors? If YES, then the next problem is to fix the KDE desktop. I think you probably need to run these commands, again after logging in at the CLI:

Code:

sudo service kdm stop

Code:

mv .kde .kde_borked
rm .ICEauthority
rm .Xauthority

Code:

sudo service kdm start

I'll cross my fingers ... I hope you saved your installation CD. :P

**vovams** · Feb 13, 2010, 05:04 PM

Re: KDE 4.4 does not start after upgrading on kubuntu 9.10

No, that does not helps. I have already tried that (now again). I can't understand, why plasma-desktop crushes on "plasma-desktop --version" command. Any more ideas before the "instalation cd"?

**dibl** · Feb 13, 2010, 05:10 PM

Re: KDE 4.4 does not start after upgrading on kubuntu 9.10

Probably the power loss happened during installation and configuration of your KDE4.4 packages. It's hard to tell what all got messed up -- the filesystem itself could be damaged.

As a last shot, you can try reinstalling the plasma stuff (I'm looking at Debian -- the Kubuntu package names might be a bit different in this area):

Code:

sudo apt-get install --reinstall plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-desktopthemes-artwork plasma-widget-folderview plasma-widgets-workspace

If it's still no-go, you'll probably spend less time reinstalling and configuring than chasing around the broken pieces.

**vovams** · Feb 14, 2010, 04:36 AM

Re: KDE 4.4 does not start after upgrading on kubuntu 9.10

Nothing helps. Is there a way to downgrade to KDE 4.3.5, that i was using before?
Oh, something told me to make a hdd backup before upgrading...

**lacroix** · Feb 14, 2010, 12:43 PM

Re: KDE 4.4 does not start after upgrading on kubuntu 9.10

i have similar problem. after last upgrade it simply won't start at all...it goes through Kubuntu screen and then it won't start...all i can see is a little dot right in the top left of the screen
and no, I had no power shortage while upgrading to 4.4...
i have absolutely no idea how to get into the system or how to repair it....

**martosurf** · Feb 14, 2010, 01:58 PM

Re: KDE 4.4 does not start after upgrading on kubuntu 9.10

lacroix can you boot in recovery mode at least?

Once there you can try to rename .config, .dbus and .kde, reboot and try again, wish you luck

**lacroix** · Feb 14, 2010, 02:06 PM

Re: KDE 4.4 does not start after upgrading on kubuntu 9.10

Originally posted by martosurf

lacroix can you boot in recovery mode at least?

Once there you can try to rename .config, .dbus and .kde, reboot and try again, wish you luck

i'd be grateful if you explained that step by step to me, coz it's all greek to me

and yes, it looks all fine, when i enter recovery mode...yet still no idea what i would do there...

**martosurf** · Feb 14, 2010, 05:49 PM

Re: KDE 4.4 does not start after upgrading on kubuntu 9.10

Well, as Jack the Ripper said, let's go piece by piece:

1. .config, .dbus and .kde are all hidden directories in your home directory, that is, for example /home/lacroix (commonly abbreviated with ~)
2. I tell you to rename those folders because there were situations where there was conflict with KDE not launching and making KDE initialize it configuration to default can help it launch again, at least that helped to me more than a time. Just rename those folders, don't remove them, because if they're not the problem you can rename them back and save your customization of the desktop. A good approach would be to rename the folder to .ren [.config.ren, .kde.ren, etc] this way you will remember they're intact and ready to use.
3. It may be too the xorg.conf file. Casually today I had this problem with KDM -the desktop environment manager- not initializing. What was wrong was a line I added -wrongly added- to the xorg.conf file to enable DontZap to activate again the X restart combination keys (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace). You can try renaming that config file aswell - it's located in /etc/X11

Please try above and let us know.

**lacroix** · Feb 15, 2010, 02:49 AM

Re: KDE 4.4 does not start after upgrading on kubuntu 9.10

Originally posted by martosurf

Well, as Jack the Ripper said, let's go piece by piece:

1. .config, .dbus and .kde are all hidden directories in your home directory, that is, for example /home/lacroix (commonly abbreviated with ~)
2. I tell you to rename those folders because there were situations where there was conflict with KDE not launching and making KDE initialize it configuration to default can help it launch again, at least that helped to me more than a time. Just rename those folders, don't remove them, because if they're not the problem you can rename them back and save your customization of the desktop. A good approach would be to rename the folder to .ren [.config.ren, .kde.ren, etc] this way you will remember they're intact and ready to use.
3. It may be too the xorg.conf file. Casually today I had this problem with KDM -the desktop environment manager- not initializing. What was wrong was a line I added -wrongly added- to the xorg.conf file to enable DontZap to activate again the X restart combination keys (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace). You can try renaming that config file aswell - it's located in /etc/X11

Please try above and let us know.

i don't want to sound ignorant, but i don't have a clue how to access those...i understand that i 'm supposed to enter recovery mode. but after that i haven't got the slightest idea...
please help me here

**martosurf** · Feb 15, 2010, 02:21 PM

Re: KDE 4.4 does not start after upgrading on kubuntu 9.10

I'm in a rush to work now, when I came back home later at night I'll tell you a step-by-step guide foolproof guide to try my suggestion. Take in mind that even if you can't recover your system at all, at least you will learn a lot xDD, that's how all we here learn

(this is an excerpt of a post at the LuckyBackup website, http://luckybackup.sourceforge.net/features.html)

Somebody once said:
“ if you haven't backed up your data is like not having them at all !! ”

That is because, based at the laws of probability, some time, for some reason, something will happen and you will lose valuable data
Another guy once said:

“ computer users can be divided into 2 categories:
Those that have lost data
...and those that have not lost data YET ”

I really wish you to never come to that situation.
But if you do, then I hope that you backed up your data the very last minute either by using this application or not :-)

**vovams** · Feb 15, 2010, 03:48 PM

Re: KDE 4.4 does not start after upgrading on kubuntu 9.10

My problem is slowed! Today i logged into the console and tried "apt-get upgrade". It found nearly 50 updates. I have installed them all and after reboot i am able to log into KDE and it works fine! So, it looks like there was something wrong with the backport. Another explaining may be that during the update all packages have just been reinstalled.

Anyway, KDE 4.4 is working now for me. Good luck for others!

**Snowhog** · Feb 15, 2010, 03:57 PM

Re: KDE 4.4 does not start after upgrading on kubuntu 9.10

You will be served better if you start using sudo apt-get dist-upgrade instead of upgrade. dist-upgrade handles dependencies where as upgrade will not add/remove packages due to dependencies.

dist-upgrade

dist-upgrade in addition to performing the function of upgrade,
also intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions
of packages; apt-get has a "smart" conflict resolution system, and
it will attempt to upgrade the most important packages at the
expense of less important ones if necessary. So, dist-upgrade
command may remove some packages.

upgrade

upgrade is used to install the newest versions of all packages
currently installed on the system from the sources enumerated in
/etc/apt/sources.list. Packages currently installed with new
versions available are retrieved and upgraded; under no
circumstances are currently installed packages removed, or packages
not already installed retrieved and installed. New versions of
currently installed packages that cannot be upgraded without
changing the install status of another package will be left at
their current version. An update must be performed first so that
apt-get knows that new versions of packages are available.

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