KDE 4.4 update keeps ruinating my machine

[grncamaro69]

Re: KDE 4.4 update keeps ruinating my machine

Checked the repositories again just before lunchtime (Chicago) and there was another set of updates.

This time updated via the shell. Downloaded, and almost all the way through the configuration the screen went black and went to the text shell.
I waited until all the disk activity was done, and re-activated the desktop with startx.

Went back to the shell and did apt-get update/upgrade. Message was to do a dpkg --reconfigure -a.
Did this, and went to reboot.

Now, the widgets I could not get on the panel will get on.

The desktop did get more responsive.

At least for the time being, until all the Gremlins are worked out, I can use the desktop normally again.

You have to expect things like this when you want cutting edge.

Now to figure out what has to be done to Kontact since part of it is now akomadi to work like before!

[tomp01]

Re: KDE 4.4 update keeps ruinating my machine

I have just got another 33 updates which haven't fixed Dolphin and now we are back to a command prompt on booting. Running sudo kdm didn't work but sudo gdm did.

[raid]

Re: KDE 4.4 update keeps ruinating my machine

It sounds like that's what you really wanted to do in the first place.

Arch Linux is great if you want to spend all your time compiling code, which is about as exciting as rearranging your sock drawer.

Actually I didn't have to compile anything at all. Arch has package repositories and I used their package management system called pacman to get everything installed.

[bamyasi]

Re: KDE 4.4 update keeps ruinating my machine

I can confirm that the last update (ppa7) still bombs out on me.

[tomp01]

Re: KDE 4.4 update keeps ruinating my machine

It sounds like that's what you really wanted to do in the first place.

Arch Linux is great if you want to spend all your time compiling code, which is about as exciting as rearranging your sock drawer.

Actually I didn't have to compile anything at all. Arch has package repositories and I used their package management system called pacman to get everything installed.

OK, I was confusing Gentoo with Arch Linux, but from the sounds of it you still need to do a lot of downloading to get a decent system. I agree though that you seem to be on here mostly to gloat and indulge in willy waving. By the way, ruinating is not a word.

I quote from Wikipedia.

The Arch Linux website supplies both CD (ISO) and USB (IMG) images for ease of use. The Arch Linux installer is a shell script using dialog for user interaction. The default install is slim. Further system customization and expansion (adding a window manager, desktop environment, etc.) must be done manually, installing packages downloaded from online repositories. Arch is therefore generally considered relatively involved to install, in comparison to other operating systems.

[raid]

Re: KDE 4.4 update keeps ruinating my machine

I agree though that you seem to be on here mostly to gloat and indulge in willy waving. By the way, ruinating is not a word.

[martosurf]

Re: KDE 4.4 update keeps ruinating my machine

My Kubuntu x64 KDE SC 4.4 runs AWESOME, my hard steel is: Intel's Quadcore 2.66hz 8400, 4GB RAM, ATI Radeon 5750HD 1GB.

To be honest, Kubuntu is like a beautiful but histeric bipolaric and ciclotimic girl you love because it's prettyness lol, it might run smooooooth for a long time and all at a sudden stop working, that's what I've been learning for about 3 weeks ago now, when I finally switched tu Kub after running Ubuntu for a looong time and looking for a reliable KDE 4 distro but belonging to Debian family.

So before any major update to the system I backup my whole / parition (/home and /tmp are on their respective mount points) AND ALL the hidden files and folders in ~ - minus nepomuk index and some not so important files like .thumbnails folder, Google's Chrome cache and so on because they're too big and really are not affected by upgrades.

Once you have your system backed up proceed with the upgrade. I used to upgrade & dist-upgrade in Ubuntu within the Terminal but somewhere "hear" it's better to that from the console so when rebooting after backup boot in your latest kernel recovery mode and when in prompt upgrade from there.


This is my backup routine I hope gives you a general idea on how to proceed or at least what you might have to backup:

To backup my hidden files and folders from ~ I issue:

sudo tar --exclude ".." --exclude "." --exclude ".kde/share/apps/nepomuk" --exclude ".cache/google-chrome" --exclude ".config/google-chrome" --exclude ".thumbnails" -vccz .* > Backups/SO/14-02_home-hidden.tar.gz

from konsole. Replace/modify it to fit your needs.

Then, I reboot to the SysRescueCD (an incredible useful backup/recovery Live CD based on Gentoo) and boot it with these parameters:

rescue64 docache dostartx setkmap=13

rescue64: will load the 64-bit kernel
docache: will load entire Live CD in memory so it's no needed and you can use your cd/dvd unit to, for example, burn an ISO or backup to DVD
dostartx: will automatically start the x server. If you want do other administrative tasks or turn on your internet connection just boot to the console instead
setkmap=13: will set keyboard to Spanish layout. If you not expressly choose your keyboard layout you will be prompted to do so at boot.

Finally I issue these:

mkdir /mnt/home
mount -t ext /dev/sdb1 /mnt/home
fsarchiver -v -v -d -d -j4 -z5 savefs /mnt/home/yourusername/Backups/SO/14-2_root.fsa /dev/sda1


FSArchiver is a file/disk backup currently in development but running wonderfully.
-v: gives verbose information. Add more -v to get more information
-d: same but with debug information (I like/want to know allways what's happening behind courtains =)
-j4: tells FSArchiver to use as much as 4 cores to optimize and speed up backing process. If you're running a DualCore change it to -j2
savefs: tells FSArchiver to make a backup of the mounting point file system.

Wait until finish backup and that's it.

Now issue a reboot, and boot in the recovery mode of your latest kenel and once at the command line you may issue:

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade && sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get clean

If there was a new kernel you'll need to recompile your video drivers and other hardware drivers now. Finally, sudo reboot and boot normally.

That's it! Now you have Kubuntu full up-to-date and in the event something did go wrong you can restore your system in a breeze.
Yeah, I know this could be a bit more automated, but that's the way it is right now.

Best

[blackpaw]

Re: KDE 4.4 update keeps ruinating my machine

which is about as exciting as rearranging your sock drawer.

Hey! no knocking my Friday night excitements

[blackpaw]

Re: KDE 4.4 update keeps ruinating my machine

Arch Linux is great if you want to spend all your time compiling code, which is about as exciting as rearranging your sock drawer.

Sounds like my Gentoo days, and boy was it fun when portage went wonky on you.

Anyway, I think most problems can be solved by simply wiping out your .kde directory and starting from scratch. Reconfiguring the system isn't that big of a deal really.

Well depends how much you have invested in it

But yah - I have all my data and most of my config living on various remote servers now (IMAP, Subversion etc). I can reinstall the whole system and be back up to speed within half an hour these days. It makes distro hopping much more fun.