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**Snowhog** · Feb 06, 2010, 03:46 PM

Re: Greets to all and I have a question please?

Originally posted by bibloks

Second problem I have is, I deleted the bar in th buttom so I tried to add new bar but I could not make space for applications to minimize on !!!

So you added the Panel back. Good. In order to 'see' minimized applications, you now have to add the Task Manager widget to the Panel.

**bibloks** · Feb 06, 2010, 04:30 PM

Re: Greets to all and I have a question please?

Thanks Snowhog,

I have made some changes before, like I used wicd instead of network manager that is not showing anywhere, also I don't see sound control and cannot add to the panel.

Do you have any suggestion about the issue of the graphic card and switch that I use ?

Thanks m8

**Snowhog** · Feb 06, 2010, 04:58 PM

Re: Greets to all and I have a question please?

Originally posted by bibloks

...and cannot add to the panel.

Position your mouse cursor on a blank area of the Panel. Right-click > Panel Options > Add Widgets... and type Tas. Click on Task Manager and then on Add Widget. The Task Manager will be added to the Panel.

To install Wicd, follow the instructions for adding the repository and the key used for signing here. When adding the repository, remember that you are running Karmic.

**bibloks** · Feb 06, 2010, 05:50 PM

Re: Greets to all and I have a question please?

OK m8, seams you missed a bit my post but no problemo

I added task manager, I already had installed wicd and working fine, actually its better then network manager, I am missing icon in the bar but thats fine m8, I think I am going to install from the beginning, good stuff are learned in a hard way

**dibl** · Feb 06, 2010, 06:50 PM

Re: Greets to all and I have a question please?

Originally posted by bibloks

I think I am going to install from the beginning, good stuff are learned in a hard way

Right! In my experience, it takes about 8 installations to learn the most important things NOT to do.

**GreyGeek** · Feb 06, 2010, 08:13 PM

Re: Greets to all and I have a question please?

Only 8?

That qualifies you as a genius!

Humor aside, installing Linux with a LiveCD from Kubuntu, Fedora, openSUSE, Mint, PCLinuxOS, MEPIS and several others of the top 20, has become SO EASY over the last two or three years that one learns almost nothing about Linux.

Problem #1: Your PC doesn't boot from the CDROM. Lesson? How to access, modify and save your BIOS settings. Not really a Linux lesson.

Problem #2: Choosing your language and your time zone. Lesson? If you can't do that then it's time to box up the computer and take it back to the store.

Problem #3: Choosing an account name and password. Windows users have to do that too, so this does not require any Linux knowledge or skill.

Problem #4: Giving Linux the WHOLE HD or just a partition. Lesson? This is where the user steps into a land that is part hardware, part terminology and part Linux. The easiest choice, which doesn't take any knowledge of Linux, is to give the entire HD to the installation of Linux, including the default filesystem. If you do that then all you have to do is wait for the installation to complete itself, reboot and log in. You don't need to know about fliesystems, tracks, sectors, MBRs, GRUB, etc...

If you want to keep the other OS on then you have to decide how much of its partition that you want to take in order to install Linux on it. The "Linux" part is if you want to also have a swap disk and how you want GRUB to present your listings. With 3 or more GB of RAM available a lot of folks are not bothering to install a swap disk. The rule of thumb when RAM was less than 512MB was that the swap partition had to be twice that of the RAM. When RAM rose to between 512MB and 1GB the rule was that the swap had to be equal to the RAM. Now that RAM disk sizes are mostly between 1 and 4 GB I don't see many folks recommending RAM disks at all. How about having a 16GB swap file because you have 8GB of RAM? Nonsense? I'd say so unless you are editing scenes from the AVATAR 3D movie. The GRUB listings have become much more complicated since GRUB2. Many a Penguin chick has died on the GRUB2 rocks trying to reach the free fish in the Ocean.

Problem #5: After bootup something doesn't work right. Usually it is either the video, sound or wireless chip which doesn't work right. Sometimes it is a web camera. This is where the learning really begins. Lesson? How to determine if your hardware can be driven by Kubuntu, and if it can, how to install the drivers and configure them. Things can get stinky really quick. These are the Sea Lions that catch other chicks and turn them into Sea Lion poo.

Problem #6: Apt-get/Konsole, Kpackagekit, Synaptic, dpgk, etc... Lesson? This is the first step in learning to manage Kubuntu - how to use one of those tools.

I could go on, but anyone who has had experience with Linux, or especially with helping new Linux users over come problems they have installing, configuring or running Linux will recognize a pattern. That pattern is in the link of FAQ in the sig of Dible's postings. Here is it's URL: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3099811.0

User's new to Linux or Kubuntu should open that page and then bookmark it in their Browser tool bar so they can access it at an instant. Even better, in case they can't get to a terminal or KDE4, they should print out the entire FAQ and pin it to the wall next to their computer.

**bibloks** · Feb 06, 2010, 09:59 PM

Re: Greets to all and I have a question please?

Originally posted by GreyGeek

Only 8?

That qualifies you as a genius!

I already started to like very much community here - thanks, it gives great feeling

Humor aside, installing Linux with a LiveCD from Kubuntu, Fedora, openSUSE, Mint, PCLinuxOS, MEPIS and several others of the top 20, has become SO EASY over the last two or three years that one learns almost nothing about Linux.

I already installed more the 8 times LOL, since fedora 3 came out then I moved to ubuntu and now on Kubuntu.

Problem #1: Your PC doesn't boot from the CDROM. Lesson? How to access, modify and save your BIOS settings. Not really a Linux lesson.

I know this very good

Problem #2: Choosing your language and your time zone. Lesson? If you can't do that then it's time to box up the computer and take it back to the store.

Problem #3: Choosing an account name and password. Windows users have to do that too, so this does not require any Linux knowledge or skill.

no comment

Problem #4: Giving Linux the WHOLE HD or just a partition. Lesson? This is where the user steps into a land that is part hardware, part terminology and part Linux. The easiest choice, which doesn't take any knowledge of Linux, is to give the entire HD to the installation of Linux, including the default filesystem. If you do that then all you have to do is wait for the installation to complete itself, reboot and log in. You don't need to know about fliesystems, tracks, sectors, MBRs, GRUB, etc...

If you want to keep the other OS on then you have to decide how much of its partition that you want to take in order to install Linux on it. The "Linux" part is if you want to also have a swap disk and how you want GRUB to present your listings. With 3 or more GB of RAM available a lot of folks are not bothering to install a swap disk. The rule of thumb when RAM was less than 512MB was that the swap partition had to be twice that of the RAM. When RAM rose to between 512MB and 1GB the rule was that the swap had to be equal to the RAM. Now that RAM disk sizes are mostly between 1 and 4 GB I don't see many folks recommending RAM disks at all. How about having a 16GB swap file because you have 8GB of RAM? Nonsense? I'd say so unless you are editing scenes from the AVATAR 3D movie. The GRUB listings have become much more complicated since GRUB2. Many a Penguin chick has died on the GRUB2 rocks trying to reach the free fish in the Ocean.

I know partitioning well, I still dualboot with windows

but my default starting OS is linux of course.
I always do partition HDD, boot, swap, root and home ... and I configured nicely grub2 (read here for hours)

Problem #5: After bootup something doesn't work right. Usually it is either the video, sound or wireless chip which doesn't work right. Sometimes it is a web camera. This is where the learning really begins. Lesson? How to determine if your hardware can be driven by Kubuntu, and if it can, how to install the drivers and configure them. Things can get stinky really quick. These are the Sea Lions that catch other chicks and turn them into Sea Lion poo.

my graphics work well only when I attach switch to connect 2 PCs into one monitor, keyboard and mouse then graphics get fooked and I was not able to fix desktop effects when using switch. Logitech quick cam fusion did not work well with v4l though

Problem #6: Apt-get/Konsole, Kpackagekit, Synaptic, dpgk, etc... Lesson? This is the first step in learning to manage Kubuntu - how to use one of those tools.

Yep I have to learn more about these. I have recently purchased multimeida box called reelbox AVG that runes on Kubuntu and its great box/PC, after this I had to switch to Kubuntu in my other PCs and I love it.
I have setup and configure samba to share NTFS disk to all machines and also printer, installed and configured mediatomb to share my media from rellbox to other machines including PS3 ....... but there is allot more to learn of course.

I could go on, but anyone who has had experience with Linux, or especially with helping new Linux users over come problems they have installing, configuring or running Linux will recognize a pattern. That pattern is in the link of FAQ in the sig of Dible's postings. Here is it's URL: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3099811.0

User's new to Linux or Kubuntu should open that page and then bookmark it in their Browser tool bar so they can access it at an instant. Even better, in case they can't get to a terminal or KDE4, they should print out the entire FAQ and pin it to the wall next to their computer.

Noted

Thank you...this is not the end

**bibloks** · Feb 08, 2010, 09:01 PM

Re: Greets to all and I have a question please?

OK, I have solved the issue of graphics, desktop effects while using switch for two PCs.

This trick I have used and did work:

Firsts I took off switch and used monitor and keyboard/mouse directly with PC,
I have installed Kubuntu 9.10, made all updates, restarted and then update drivers nvidia 96 in my case.

Restarted machine and enabled desktop effects, restarted again just in case to see if effects are still around
and then backeup xorg.conf created be default in /etc/X1, the screen resolutions and all are detected good.
The I went back to nvidia X server settings and of couse it did not save xorg.conf but I copied outcome into new
file xorg.conf_nvidia_default then compared these two and into nvidia xorg I added line that was missing, the line that was creaded by default " Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" " and this did the trick

I have now switch and desktop effects working well.

This thread should be marked as solved.

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