No desktop after kde 4.3.80 upgrade

[Possum]

Today my system received an upgrade to kde 4.3.80. Unfortunately the packages rather dribbled into the repo (and are still doing so) which caused multiple dependency failures. Finally the upgradable packages installed cleanly.
BUT
I get a normal kdm greeter screen and I can log on. I then get the expected splash screen which then fades to a default oxygen background with no Desktop.
No customised wallpaper
No widgets
No panel
No right-click
Nada

I can use Alt-F2 to start programs & kwin is running (window decorations and switching are ok). Alt-ctrl-del invites me to logout/restart ok.
Removing ~/.kde dir doesnt help.

Any ideas ??

[Rog131]

Re: No desktop after kde 4.3.80 upgrade

With the Lucid Lynx (scheduled release April 2010) the plasma-desktop was missing from the dependencies.

Do you have the package plasma-desktop ?
If you have it - what will happen if you start the plasma with the command (start first the konsole and with the konsole):

plasma-desktop

Error messages ?


Hmm- officially > Kubuntu.org:

KDE Software Compilation 4.4 beta 1 packages comming soon

[Possum]

Re: No desktop after kde 4.3.80 upgrade

Thanks for the quick reply. I should have said this is a karmic system. I did not have the plasma-desktop package. I have now but it is docs only.
"plasma-desktop" is not a command. Both invocation and apt-file tell me it is part of kdebase-workspace-bin but I have that installed and the command isn't in that package.

It does have a "plasma-overlay" command. I tried that and got

~$ plasma-overlay
<unknown program name>(4284)/ checkComposite: Plasma has an argb visual 0x102d600 65011713
<unknown program name>(4284)/ checkComposite: Plasma is COMPOSITE-less on 0x102c840
plasma-overlay(4285)/plasma PlasmaApp::PlasmaApp: Setting the pixmap cache size to 30890 kilobytes
plasma-overlay(4285)/plasma SaverCorona::init: unlock action
plasma-overlay(4285)/plasma SaverCorona::loadDefaultLayout:
plasma-overlay(4285)/plasma SaverCorona::loadDefaultLayout: screen geometry is QRect(0,0 1366x768)
plasma-overlay(4285)/kdecore (KSycoca) KSycocaPrivate:penDatabase: Trying to open ksycoca from "/var/tmp/kdecache-brian/ksycoca4"
plasma-overlay(4285)/libplasma Plasma::Applet::load: offers is empty for "saverdesktop"
plasma-overlay(4285)/libplasma Plasma::CoronaPrivate::addContainment: loading of containment "saverdesktop" failed.
findServiceByDesktopPath: not found
plasma-overlay(4285)/libplasma Plasma::AppletPrivate::init: Check your constructor! You probably want to be passing in a Service::Ptr or a QVariantList with a valid storageid as arg[0].
plasma-overlay(4285)/plasma PlasmaApp::createView: Containment name: "Unknown Activity" | type 127 | screen: -1 | geometry: QRectF(0,0 0x0) | zValue: 0
plasma-overlay(4285)/plasma PlasmaApp::createView: creating a view for -1 and we have 1 screens
plasma-overlay(4285)/plasma PlasmaApp::createView: view created
plasma-overlay(4285)/plasma CalendarEngine::sourceRequestEvent: "holidaysRegions"
plasma-overlay(4285)/plasma CalendarEngine::sourceRequestEvent: "holidaysRegions"
plasma-overlay(4285)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*) KSystemTimeZonesPrivate::instance: instance(): ... initialised
plasma-overlay(4285)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*) KSystemTimeZonesPrivate::readConfig: readConfig(): local zone= "Europe/London"
plasma-overlay(4285)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*) KSystemTimeZonesPrivate::readZoneTab: readZoneTab( "/usr/share/zoneinfo/zone.tab" )
plasma-overlay(4285)/plasma PlasmaApp::createView: Containment name: "Unknown Activity" | type 127 | screen: 0 | geometry: QRectF(0,0 1366x768) | zValue: 0
plasma-overlay(4285)/plasma PlasmaApp::setup: false
plasma-overlay(4285)/plasma PlasmaApp::setup: checking lockprocess is still around
plasma-overlay(4285)/plasma PlasmaApp::setup: bailing out
plasma-overlay(4285)/libplasma Plasma::ViewPrivate::updateSceneRect: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! setting the scene rect to QRectF(0,0 1366x768) associated screen is 0
plasma-overlay(4285)/plasma CalendarEngine::sourceRequestEvent: "isHoliday::2009-12-09"
plasma-overlay(4285)/plasma CalendarEngine::sourceRequestEvent: "isHoliday"
plasma-overlay(4285)/plasma CalendarEngine::sourceRequestEvent: "2009-12-09"

Oh yes - I saw the announcement but the upgrade was presented to me & I'm rash/stupid enough to try most things.

[Tynach]

Re: No desktop after kde 4.3.80 upgrade

Well, there's your problem

plasma-desktop is a NEEDED command to start the plasma shell, which is the actual desktop itself. Without it, no desktop. At least, in KDE 4.3.

You may want to try installing it.

[Possum]

Re: No desktop after kde 4.3.80 upgrade

Tynach
Ok then where do I find it ?? - Read my last post again.

[Rog131]

Re: No desktop after kde 4.3.80 upgrade

The plasma-desktop (KDE 4.4) is:

apt-cache show plasma-desktop

Package: plasma-desktop
Priority: optional
Section: kde
Installed-Size: 960
...
Source: kdebase-workspace
Version: 4:4.3.80-0ubuntu1
Replaces: kdebase-workspace-bin (<< 4:4.3.80), plasma-widgets-workspace (<< 4:4.3.80)
Depends: kdebase-runtime (>= 4:4.3.80), kdebase-workspace-bin (>= 4:4.3.80), kdelibs5 (>= 4:4.3.80), libc6 (>= 2.4), libkephal4 (>= 4:4.3.80), libkworkspace4 (>= 4:4.3.80), libplasma3 (>= 4:4.3.80-0ubuntu1), libqt4-dbus (>= 4:4.6.0), libqt4-script (>= 4:4.6.0), libqt4-xml (>= 4:4.6.0), libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.6.0), libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.6.0), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1), libtaskmanager4 (>= 4:4.3.80), libx11-6, libxext6
Recommends: kdebase-workspace
...
Description: The KDE plasma workspace for desktop and laptop computers
Provides the environment for running and managing applications and integrating
interaction of applications. It is designed as generic environment for all
kinds of desktop applications, not only applications built on the KDE Platform.
It integrates best with applications following the standards used by the KDE
Platform.
.
This package provides a basic KDE Plasma Desktop installation.
Homepage: http://www.kde.org/
Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
Origin: Ubuntu
Task: kubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-desktop-kde

What repository are you using ?

If the > Kubuntu Package Staging:

PPA description

For the love of the blue gears, DO NOT USE.
This is where we build and stage the packages for final PPA releases, so this PPA will never have usable packages.

[Possum]

Re: No desktop after kde 4.3.80 upgrade

Mea culpa, mea culpa maxima. I have no idea why or when I enabled the staging repo and assumed that these were backports. I've certainly never looked at it to see the warning.

The plasma-desktop I have is

$ apt-cache show plasma-desktop
Package: plasma-desktop
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: kde
Installed-Size: 124
Maintainer: Kubuntu Developers <kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com>
Architecture: amd64
Source: kdebase-workspace
Version: 4:4.3.80-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa2
Replaces: kdebase-workspace-bin (<< 4:4.3.80), plasma-widgets-workspace (<< 4:4.3.80)
Recommends: kdebase-workspace
Description: The KDE plasma workspace for desktop and laptop computers
Provides the environment for running and managing applications and integrating
interaction of applications. It is designed as generic environment for all
kinds of desktop applications, not only applications built on the KDE Platform.
It integrates best with applications following the standards used by the KDE
Platform.
.
This package provides a basic KDE Plasma Desktop installation.
Homepage: http://www.kde.org/
Original-Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers <debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org>

It's a little different.