No update notifications since upgrade

[utkjamie]

Re: No update notifications since upgrade

...it would seam that whatever pases the info to notifiy to the notification and job widget ONLEY dose it at boot and not on eney other sort of time scedual.......this should be fixed!

At this point, I'd be (almost) content to create a cron job to launch whatever app does the check and launches the notifier. Anyone have any idea what app that might be?

[idyllic]

Re: No update notifications since upgrade

I don't use it as cron job though, but feel free to modify it

#!/bin/bash
LOG=/usr/bin/logger
POLL=`apt-get -qq update && apt-get -qq --simulate dist-upgrade`;

if [ $? != 0 ]; then
 $LOG "*** Apt Update Error ***"
 exit 1
fi

if [ "$POLL" != "" ]; then
 kpackagekit --updates
fi

Below is the command to flash the icon, I am not sure how to set the interval for it. I am quite new to KDE.

$ qdbus org.kde.KPackageKitSmartIcon / org.kde.KPackageKitSmartIcon.Update

[miraaz]

Re: No update notifications since upgrade

Got little info what going on but i no have skills resolve that.
Bug:

root@www1:~# update-notifier-kde -c
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/update-notifier-kde", line 168, in aptDirectoryChanged
result = apt_check.run()
File "/usr/lib/update-notifier/apt_check.py", line 84, in run
if options.security_updates_unattended:
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'security_updates_unattended'

Founded fix
Change:
/usr/lib/update-notifier/apt_check.py
line 84 (wrong is uncommented and fix below it)

### fix code start ###
# if options.security_updates_unattended:
# res = apt_pkg.Config.FindI("APT::Periodic::Unattended-Upgrade", 0)
# #print res
# sys.exit(res)
if options and options.security_updates_unattended:
res = apt_pkg.Config.FindI("APT::Periodic::Unattended-Upgrade", 0)
#print res
sys.exit(res)
### fix code end ###

Nuw update notifier not crashing at error:
# update-notifier-kde -c
0;0


I do not know its fixing update notifier not pops up also because i currently not have updates but i let you know soon when some new update out.

Info Source:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...er/+bug/477941

That is anowing how Linux distros not fix so serious bug so long time!!! Imagine if Microsoft update not working 1 weak, what happens? People kill Microsoft directly. But free software can allow himself crap like that! And then we surprised why Windows users who try Linux not stay here! And they say "we not have to time for testing alpha software". And i agree with them.
Testing and polishing software in Linux is very boor. I not talk small bugs. All the times when new version of KDE or Kubuntu gomes out we newer to not know what BIG BOMB its hiding inside.

Win users please no try Kubuntu! They even cant fix update notifier bug at half year!!!

[GreyGeek]

Re: No update notifications since upgrade

.......
Win users please no try Kubuntu! They even cant fix update notifier bug at half year!!!
......

Why would you advise that?

Microsoft lets SERIOUS security bugs stay in their OS/utilities for years, even recommending that users "upgrade" to the latest release rather than fixing a bug because upgrading adds to Microsoft's profits. Microsoft keeps their security holes secret until such time, IF EVER, that they announce both the hole and the patch on the same day, then they have the hubris to claim zero day patches! So, Windows users can remain at risk on unpatched security holes for months or even years. A German website kept track of unpatched security holes in IE, some lasting for several years, until Microsoft forced the ISP to shut him down. But for a minor bug in the Kubuntu update software, IF it is confirmed as a bug (which I doubt because the updates work normally for MANY users, including me and the nearly dozen machines I've installed KK on), you recommend that Windows users stay with Windows?

The fact is that you demonstrate the FOSS paradigm very well. Linux is FREE, FOSS is FREE, Kubuntu is FREE. FOSS developers cannot afford to pay for QC bug testers and rely on the community to fill that role, which appreciative Linux users have been doing since 1991 without complaints. If members of the community don't have programming skills they report the bugs they find to the developers bugzilla website, not a rant or whine in some forum, and if they have the programming skills they do what you've done -- find a solution and post it, although a bug report detailing your fix is better than a rant or a whine in some forum.

With Linux your personal info is safe and you can do online shopping and banking without fear of having your money or identity stolen. Yet, you advise Windows users to continue using Windows at a great financial risk because of what you believe is a bug in a minor, even unnecessary, application?

Very inconsistent of you. Have you another motive?

[tnorris]

Re: No update notifications since upgrade

I already said this once, but I'll say it again. update-notifier-kde has NOTHING to do with the problem. update-notifier-kde only still runs because there are other types of notifications (e.g. codec installs) that happen via update-notifier-kde.

Prior to my upgrade to KK I got update notification via the "little green gear" just like was supposed to happen. As of KK the nature of upgrade notifications have changed to use KPackageKit rather than update-notifier-kde and therefore moved from the "little green gear" to the "Notifications and Jobs" icon. The issue here seems to be that if updates are available at the time of a reboot KPackageKit correctly detects and notifies as it should, but if updates subsequently become available they are detected but the user is never notified.

This problem could not have existed prior to KK because notifications didn't work the same way prior to KK

[Rob_H]

Re: No update notifications since upgrade

As someone has pointed out, there is already an open bug for this problem in Launchpad. If you want to see this fixed, please go there and click on the link that indicates it affects you. This will make it more visible to the developers.

[Vistaus]

Re: No update notifications since upgrade

I don't get why so many people get the updates on reboot. I boot my laptop with Kubuntu 9.10 every day, and shut it down at night. And I have never seen a notification from KPackageKit.

[Rog131]

Re: No update notifications since upgrade

Coming soon for the Lucid (available from the PPA to the Lucid&Karmic )

> Topic: Lucid Release Schedule, Plans, KDE 4.4 >> Jonathan Thomas (jontheechidna):

Kubuntu Notification Helper 0.4.85 (0.5 beta1)
November 25, 2009

I’m glad to be able to announce the release of Kubuntu Notification Helper 0.4.85, the first beta release for the 0.5 release! We would very much appreciate testing, though I must admit we don’t have anywhere for bug reports to go yet. It should enter Ubuntu soon enough, though, so we’ll be able to track bugs there in the quite near future.

Downloading > Packages in “PPA for Jonathan Thomas” >> kubuntu-notification-helper (0.4.85-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa1)

Installing

KPackageKit > Settings (Notify when updates are available) > Edit Software Sources > Updates Tab (Check for updates - Daily - Only notify available updates)

Reboot

Konsole: kcmshell4 kcmkded, Notification Helper is up and Status is Running

Waiting a moment...

KPackageKit is notifing.




Here it seems to work.

[chipbennett]

Re: No update notifications since upgrade

Coming soon for the Lucid (available from the PPA to the Lucid&Karmic )

> Topic: Lucid Release Schedule, Plans, KDE 4.4 >> Jonathan Thomas (jontheechidna):

Kubuntu Notification Helper 0.4.85 (0.5 beta1)
November 25, 2009

I’m glad to be able to announce the release of Kubuntu Notification Helper 0.4.85, the first beta release for the 0.5 release! We would very much appreciate testing, though I must admit we don’t have anywhere for bug reports to go yet. It should enter Ubuntu soon enough, though, so we’ll be able to track bugs there in the quite near future.

Downloading > Packages in “PPA for Jonathan Thomas” >> kubuntu-notification-helper (0.4.85-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa1)

Installing

KPackageKit > Settings (Notify when updates are available) > Edit Software Sources > Updates Tab (Check for updates - Daily - Only notify available updates)

Reboot

Konsole: kcmshell4 kcmkded, Notification Helper is up and Status is Running

Waiting a moment...

KPackageKit is notifing.




Here it seems to work.

Awesome! I'll add that PPA later today.

Is that a UbuntuOne KDE client I spy in that PPA, also?

[Rog131]

Re: No update notifications since upgrade

Is that a UbuntuOne KDE client I spy in that PPA, also?

Do you mean ? > Harald Sitter (apachelogger):

Ubuntu One KDE Tech Preview

As all my dear groupies probably have noticed, I started working on getting Ubuntu One a KDE frontend.

First results are now available as a tech preview.

The Ubuntu One KDE client is a small application that lives in your system tray (the thing next to your clock). It notifies you when a new transfers from or to the Ubuntu One server have been started and when they are finished.

...

What can you expect from this preview?
Crashes, startup failures and missing functionallity, as to be expected from a tech preview.

Please note that this preview is directly based of a prototype, so the internals are most likely to change a lot.

Still here?
Ok.
You can get the client from a special PPA...

>> ubuntuone-kde PPA


Links:
> FAQ: Repositories
>> Using the PPA repositories
> Gitorious - ubuntuone-client-kde

[GreyGeek]

Re: No update notifications since upgrade

I don't get why so many people get the updates on reboot. I boot my laptop with Kubuntu 9.10 every day, and shut it down at night. And I have never seen a notification from KPackageKit.

I don't either, Vistaus.

I turn my stock 64bit KK + Medibuntu on every morning and turn it off every night, and I get updates at a regular interval. I got an update security fix notice with the lady bug icon this morning for four files. Yesterday I got the 31-15 generic kernel upgrade notice.

I wonder what folks are adding or removing from their system, or what services or config files they are tweaking that causes them to lose the automatic notification?

[Bubbleman]

Re: No update notifications since upgrade

*sigh* not removing ANYTHING, nor disabling any services. All I did was run the upgrade from Jaunty to Karmic. If the upgrade botched it, there's little I can comment on that.

Sad to see this is still an issue with no fix. I now have two machines upgraded from Jaunty that do not receive notifications for updates in the desktop. However if you log into them via SSH you DO get a text notification in the login banner that says there are updates. So clearly the update notification mechanism is working in the background, it's just KPackageKit that refuses to acknowledge it.

Does anyone know what the KPackageKitSmartIcon.notifyrc file is for? I have one, and it is rather emtpy (found in $HOME/.kde/share/config):
[Event/DistroUpgradeFinished]
Execute=
KTTS=
Logfile=
Sound=

[Event/ShowUpdates]
Execute=
KTTS=
Logfile=
Sound=

[JohanLingen]

Re: No update notifications since upgrade

This file doesn't even exist on my system. And I have a fresh install, so it's not the updating process.

[GreyGeek]

Re: No update notifications since upgrade

All I did was run the upgrade from Jaunty to Karmic.

Upgrading a stock Jaunty is one thing. Upgrading a highly customised Jaunty is another.

IN MY EXPERIENCE, reinstalling is always more reliable than upgrading, regardless of the distro. I've played it both ways using several distros over the years, and I've never had a problem overwriting the previous release with a fresh install. Reinstalling is more reliable that upgrading and, IMO, considering how easy it is to back up data, do a fresh install and restore the data, I am amazed that folks will spend weeks trying to fix an unsuccessful upgrade.

[Bubbleman]

Re: No update notifications since upgrade

Not really customized in any way, especially the one machine (basically just a stock server that only gets ssh'd into). I tend to steer clear of any unofficial apt sources and live within the official kubuntu apt tree.

I thought that weird .notifyrc file was a bit odd. Removing it doesn't change things though. Just trying to dig a bit deeper to see what isn't jiving between the notify system and kpackagekit.

But, at least there's a bug report out there about this. I personally check manually but it could be a real security issue if anyone else isn't getting update notifications.