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    Problem with window panels

    I just tried Kubuntu 9.10 beta from liveCD and found this problem. The panel (downside of screen) can't be displayed. Same problem is with the opened program windows. In my use: Acer V233H display and ATI Radeon 7000/VE card.

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    Re: Problem with window panels

    I'm having the same problem with 9.10 and a Shuttle (SG45?) with Radeon 7000VE AGP -- bottom panel and app menus and window frames show black and white scrambled lines of junk; desktop and window contents and login screen and right-click menu are just fine. Certain windows like the run command window also are scrambled and unreadable. Trying to install Karmic on machines that ran Hardy just fine; what to do?

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      #3
      Re: Problem with window panels

      I have the same problem - after distro-upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 everything seemed fine, but a few odd things:
      - the "Starting Up ..." line when grub is booting the OS is displayed rather long in comparison to 9.04
      - the progress bar on the boot splash screen is only going to 50% at max. then the KDE splash screen is already displayed
      - after logon ... same effects as described by cmiller

      I am using the same graphiccard on a PC I assembled myself what seems to be decades ago, and until now there haven't been any problems.

      Attached a photo I took with my cell phone. Sorry for the bad quality, it was at night, and there is some noise in it. Besides that I had to resize it due to the 128k attachment size restriction.
      But I think it shows the described effect quite good.
      Attached Files

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        #4
        Re: Problem with window panels

        Have you installed the relevant drivers for your graphics card ?

        start>system>hardware drivers > choose the one for your card .Install the drivers and log out and back in.

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          #5
          Re: Problem with window panels

          Hi bossa, thanks for your reply.
          I will keep your tip in mind.

          No I didn't install any drivers for following reasons:
          1) this was an upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 - so I expect it to replace any drivers if necessary
          2) I am using the OSS radeon driver (I had all effects like transparancy etc. disabled for 9.04)
          3) it does work for almost everything that is not effected by compositing.

          But I have found another article that seems to cover this issue
          http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3107466.0

          I will try
          ... the KMS option
          ... the acceleration setting
          ... check compositing effects (turned on/off)
          ... change the theme to oxygen (maybe that does the trick, but I doubt it)
          ... reinstalling radeon drivers
          ... use the vesa-driver (most likely works if everything else fails)
          ... install ati drivers


          Already tried
          ... reinstalling various KDE4 components
          ... reinstalling xserver
          ... reconfigure xserver
          ... various manipulations in the xorg.conf (except for vesa drivers)

          I am currently at work and will commence my attempts to solve this problem at the earliest this evening (1900 Zulu Time )

          Something interesting:
          besides my desktop PC running Kubuntu I have also a Dell D600 Latitude (laptop) running Kubuntu too.
          With 9.04 the desktop PC worked like an oiled engine - more or less -, but the laptop had a problem. Xorg consumed high amounts of CPU time, every attempt failed, only using vesa-drivers did the trick.
          I upgraded the laptop too. Now the xorg issue seems to have vanished but the desktop PC is having problems.
          Funny I can't have both in top condition

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            #6
            Re: Problem with window panels

            Progress report:

            The KMS setting did the trick.
            But there still seems to be a problem.

            After some time the desktop elements like the panel, window frames, etc. seem to deteriorate. They look like static, like grey noise.
            Even the fonts look like they are decaying. Characters lose color, parts of their body, look like they are crushed. Even on a midnight commander copy progress window they change color and become unreadable.

            So the KMS fixed the initial problem, but nothing so far prevented the desktop deterioration.

            The acceleration setting was not necessary, because it already was using EAX, according to xorg.conf.log.
            AGPMode setting prevented xserver from starting correctly.
            The compositing effects are now turned off, before I turned them off they had funny effects during window transitions - they turned completely purple during the transition.
            I didn't use another theme, don't think this will change anything - midnight commander is not themed.

            So what's left is reinstalling radeon driver, using vesa driver, installing the proprietary ATI driver.

            Any ideas?

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              #7
              Re: Problem with window panels

              Progress report:
              nothing to report, I haven't had the time to do anything yesterday evening (I have a life )

              But I had the time to note some other effects:
              - K-Menu loses all text, there are only icons and vertical lines at the bottom of each menu entry line
              - Folder View widgets only display icons for each file/folder but no text
              - Clock widget displays nothing at all (see screen-shot)
              - Tasks on the Task widget lose their name

              Effects documented in attached screen-shot:
              - Window title bar font degeneration
              - Window title bar icon degeneration - showing horizontal black lines
              - Browser (Opera) Menu bar font degeneration (Edit, Widgets ... without a t, Tools showing only the vertical stroke of the T ...)
              - Browser address bar text degeneration (ubuntu is still written with a t)
              - Browser content text degeneration
              - Tasks on the Task widget displaying only icon, but no name
              - Clock widget displaying nothing at all
              - Start of desktop element degeneration:
              -- Window title bar colored dots
              -- Browser Zoom control small colored stripes (could be multiple rows of colored pixels)
              Attached Files

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                #8
                Re: Problem with window panels

                Progress Report:

                OK, so after some twiddling with xorg settings, etc ... I tried something else ...
                ... booted from a Kubuntu Live CD ... got the distorted desktop element problem
                ... set the KMS boot option (radeon.modeset=1) during boot ... the other effects are back ... not so strong, but back; and besides that the system can't identify my monitor - my guess, because it is attached via BNC and not Sub-D (possibly no downlink from the monitor to the graphic-card via BNC)
                ... tried Live CD on another PC with another Radeon graphic-card, but a 9200 chip not a 7000 - worked fine, without KMS setting, without distorted desktop elements and other effects
                ... put this graphic-card into my standard PC - works fine, without KMS setting, without distorted desktop elements and other effects ... only thing, I have to have a xorg.conf because of the not identified monitor.

                So this works now, but it is sort of a surrender - radeon driver doesn't handle the Radeon 7000 chip well, or it is a problem with graphic-card memory (IIRC the 7000 card has only 32MB)

                For me this is solved

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