[SOLVED] Karmic amd64 for intel core 2 duo P8700 not working

[walto]

Re: Karmic amd64 for intel core 2 duo P8700 not working

I checked the boot process of the amd64 live cd again. It stops when the intel e1000e network (module) is loaded. It gives the line :

e1000e : pci_enable_pcie_error_reporting failed 0xfffffffb

Then it reboots.
Any ideas?

[Snowhog]

Re: Karmic amd64 for intel core 2 duo P8700 not working

Try adding the noapci boot kernel option.

[dibl]

Re: Karmic amd64 for intel core 2 duo P8700 not working

e1000e is an ethernet driver for an Intel ethernet chip. It's what I have on my desktop system. From a Debian root prompt:

root@sidbox:/home/dibl# lshw -C network
*-network
description: Ethernet interface
product: 82573L Gigabit Ethernet Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:03:00.0
logical name: eth0
version: 00
serial: 00:1c:c0:1f:54:35
size: 1GB/s
capacity: 1GB/s
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=e1000e driverversion=1.0.2-k2 duplex=full firmware=0.5-7 ip=192.168.10.124 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes port=twisted pair speed=1GB/s
resources: irq:27 memory:e3100000-e311ffff ioport:1000(size=32)

But you have not said you have a networking problem, you said you have a problem running 64-bit OS or Live CD. So, I dunno how relevant the e1000e issue is ...

[walto]

Re: Karmic amd64 for intel core 2 duo P8700 not working

e1000e is an ethernet driver for an Intel ethernet chip. It's what I have on my desktop system. From a Debian root prompt:
But you have not said you have a networking problem, you said you have a problem running 64-bit OS or Live CD. So, I dunno how relevant the e1000e issue is ...

I still have the problem booting the amd64 live cd. The systems reboots when the e1000e module is loaded or after this module is loaded. It is the last line on the screen before the reboot.

Try adding the noapci boot kernel option

When I do this the boot process stops when the kernel scheduler is loaded (started)

[dibl]

Re: Karmic amd64 for intel core 2 duo P8700 not working

I would suspect that the fact that the e1000e module is the last line showing when it aborts the boot does not represent a "cause and effect" relationship. Something has to be last when it aborts.

The best Linux distro for hardware detection that I know of is sidux. Here's an experiment for you:

Download 1 each of the sidux 32-bit and 64-bit ISOs, current release, and burn them carefully (at the slowest burn speed you have) to CDs.

http://sidux.com/module-mirrors.html

I'd suggest "KDE Lite". Once you have made the CDs, try booting them. If the 32-bit CD boots and runs, and the 64-bit CD does not, I would consider that a definitive indication that your hardware system is not capable of running a 64-bit OS, even though your Intel CPU is capable. Then you will have an issue to discuss with the OEM of your computer.

[walto]

Re: Karmic amd64 for intel core 2 duo P8700 not working

Download 1 each of the sidux 32-bit and 64-bit ISOs, current release, and burn them carefully (at the slowest burn speed you have) to CDs.

The i386 version boots withput problems. The amd64 version reboots as all other distributions I have tested.

Is there a way to get useful informations where the problem with the kernel is? I managed to start kubuntu with the break = top feature. I wanted to start the kernel, load some modules manually and see where the problems arise. I get a console with some basic commands available. unfortunately insmod or modprobe is not included.

[dibl]

Re: Karmic amd64 for intel core 2 duo P8700 not working

I'm not enough of an engineer to know how you would determine which component or design element of your hardware is only 32 bits wide, but it is apparent that there is a limitation there.

[walto]

Re: Karmic amd64 for intel core 2 duo P8700 not working

After some more research I found that kubuntu amd64 live cd runs fine when I remove one of the 2 gb ram bars. I checked with memtest but the memory is OK and shows no error after one completed pass.
I think this is has something to do with windows. Samsung ships the notebook with Vista 32bit. Maybe they made some changes in the way the memory is accessed so vista can address all 4 gb with the 32bit version.
The settings in the BIOS are very limited so I can not change this. But I will contact samsung support and explain the issue. I hope there will be a new bios firmware that fixes this problem.

[dibl]

Re: Karmic amd64 for intel core 2 duo P8700 not working

Linux should run fine with only 2GB. Make sure you have a swap partition -- if you push it with a lot of running packages, it might need to swap a little. My 64-bit system has 4GB of RAM, but rarely uses more than 2. At this moment it has been running about 6 hours, doing all kinds of things including running a VM and Google Earth and Firefox, and is using 38% of 4GB (about 1.6GB).

[walto]

Re: Karmic amd64 for intel core 2 duo P8700 not working

Following this:
https://wiki.edubuntu.org/LaptopTest...amsungP560-Pro
and this:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...ux/+bug/272530
I added mem=4096m to the boot options and was able to boot the kubuntu (and other) live cd for amd64.
As with removing 2 gb ram I do not see the point of running this linux version since the x86 version sees all 4 gb ram.

[Guest]

Re: Karmic amd64 for intel core 2 duo P8700 not working

ive the same problem only mine is 64 bit but it thinks its 32 bit

[walto]

Re: Karmic amd64 for intel core 2 duo P8700 not working

ive the same problem only mine is 64 bit but it thinks its 32 bit

I would like to understand your problem. Can you describe what you mean with : mine is 64 bit (processor, linux version etc)

[walto]

Re: [SOLVED] Karmic amd64 for intel core 2 duo P8700 not working

I wrote multiple inquiries to Samsung. And although they just said that a 64bit OS is not supported by them, Samsung released a BIOS update (11LU).
Now, I have full 64bit capabilities and full 4GB ram.
(BTW, Win 7 64bit also works now)