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    [SOLVED] Nvidia FX5200 proprietary 173 driver issues

    Howdy,

    I figured that it was time for me to let go of lovely, simple KDE 3.x and I upgraded to Kubuntu 9.10. I've spent plenty of time configuring everything to work properly and in the way I prefer. But, I've never had as much trouble with Nvidia's proprietary driver 173 as I am now. Please help me understand some fundamental things:

    I'm using envyNG. In 8.10, the process was very easy and when I rebooted the machine, the driver was fully functioning. Now, I get options:
    Code:
     | Number | Candidate Version  | Installed Version | Compatible | Recommended |
     |----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
     | 0      | 185.18.36-0ubuntu9 | -            | -          | -      |
     |----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
     | 1      | 173.14.20-0ubuntu5 | -            | +         | +      |
     |----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
     | 2      | 96.43.13-0ubuntu6  | -            | +         | -       |
    I'm assuming that, as with Kubuntu 8.10, 173 is the best version to install.

    Didn't work; broke my X. So I tried restoring backup xorg.conf and I tried to allow dpkg to reconfigure via dexconf to no avail and finally settled on restoring the xorg.conf.failsafe and using it. Booting up---->resolution is set at 800x600 and no ability to go higher. So I took to the xorg.conf file myself and set the resolution at 1440x900.

    Everything is working the way I want it to now. But I want the proprietary Nvidia driver! So please, edify me about the difference between 8.10 and 9.10 as far as Nvidia's driver is concerned.

    Here's my xorg.conf in case it's called upon. It's pretty basic for now:
    Code:
    Section "Monitor"
    	Identifier	"Configured Monitor"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Screen"
    	Identifier	"Default Screen"
    	Device		"Configured Video Device"
    	Monitor		"Configured Monitor"
    	SubSection "Display"
    	Modes  "1440x900"
    	EndSubSection
    EndSection
    
    Section "Module"
    	Load	"dri"
    	Load	"GLcore"
    EndSection
    
    Section "InputDevice"
    	Identifier	"Generic Keyboard"
    	Driver		"kbd"
    	Option		"XkbRules"	"xorg"
    	Option		"XkbModel"	"pc105"
    	Option		"XkbLayout"	"us"
    EndSection
    
    Section "InputDevice"
    	Identifier	"Configured Mouse"
    	Driver		"mouse"
    EndSection
    
    Section "ServerLayout"
    	Identifier	"Default Layout"
    	Screen		"Default Screen"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Device"
    	Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
    	Driver	"vesa"
    EndSection
    Thanks for any help!
    Home: Kubuntu 12.04-amd64; Intel i7-860 on Intel DH55PJ; Nvidia 9500GT; 6GB RAM
    Network Slave: Xubuntu 11.10-x86; Intel P4-Prescott on MSI; 2GB RAM; Nvidia FX5200
    Portable: Xubuntu 11.10-amd64; Asus EeePC 1015PEM

    #2
    Re: Nvidia FX5200 proprietary 173 driver issues

    Why don't you just try the System > Hardware Drivers utility? If it detects your card, it will show an Nvidia driver (presumably 173) available. Accept the driver, and wait while it downloads and installs in the background. If that works, you need not bother with EnvyNG or a direct installation of the downloaded driver.

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      #3
      Re: Nvidia FX5200 proprietary 173 driver issues

      Oh I forgot to mention that I tried using that program and it suggested again that I install the 173 driver. After I did and rebooted, the X server was broken. It seems like none of these are configuring my xorg.conf correctly! I'm afraid to do it manually.
      Home: Kubuntu 12.04-amd64; Intel i7-860 on Intel DH55PJ; Nvidia 9500GT; 6GB RAM
      Network Slave: Xubuntu 11.10-x86; Intel P4-Prescott on MSI; 2GB RAM; Nvidia FX5200
      Portable: Xubuntu 11.10-amd64; Asus EeePC 1015PEM

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        #4
        Re: Nvidia FX5200 proprietary 173 driver issues

        173 is the correct driver version for your GPU. Assuming the driver is actually installed, try this:

        Ctrl-Alt-F1 out of X. Log in there. Then
        Code:
        sudo service kdm stop

        Now issue
        Code:
        sudo nvidia-xconfig
        This will write a new /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.

        Now
        Code:
        sudo service kdm start
        What do you see?

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          #5
          Re: Nvidia FX5200 proprietary 173 driver issues

          So after I had the nvidia driver definitely installed, I rebooted and was dropped to command line automatically (so X wasn't running nor was kdm). I issued
          Code:
          sudo nvidia-xconfig
          and it didn't respond with an error. Then,
          Code:
          sudo service kdm start
          and the screen flickers and drops me back at command line without an error!

          weird weird weird. am I in a hole?
          Home: Kubuntu 12.04-amd64; Intel i7-860 on Intel DH55PJ; Nvidia 9500GT; 6GB RAM
          Network Slave: Xubuntu 11.10-x86; Intel P4-Prescott on MSI; 2GB RAM; Nvidia FX5200
          Portable: Xubuntu 11.10-amd64; Asus EeePC 1015PEM

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            #6
            Re: Nvidia FX5200 proprietary 173 driver issues

            There is a log file at /var/log/Xorg.O.log. You can open it with kate. Toward the end of the file might be some lines that beging with a "[EE]" -- those are error messages. If you can post that part of the file, it might give us an idea of the problem.

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              #7
              Re: Nvidia FX5200 proprietary 173 driver issues

              I've been monitoring that log file and no errors have come up. If you'd like me to post all of it, I can.

              Meanwhile, in the interest of troubleshooting, I'm not using envyNG anymore but ubuntu's own proprietary driver manager doesn't seem to be getting me anywhere either:

              Code:
              reza@reza-desktop:~$ jockey-text -l
              xorg:nvidia-173 - NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (Proprietary, Disabled, Not in use)
              xorg:nvidia-96 - NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (Proprietary, Disabled, Not in use)
              so I ran sudo jockey-text -e xorg:nvidia-173 in order to enable the 173 driver.

              then:
              Code:
              reza@reza-desktop:~$ jockey-text -l
              xorg:nvidia-173 - NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (Proprietary, Enabled, Not in use)
              xorg:nvidia-96 - NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (Proprietary, Disabled, Not in use)
              REBOOT---------> nothing but command line. checked the jockey-text -l again and the nvidia-173 is still listed as 'not in use'. I'm confused; looking for help all over so don't feel pressured dibl. Thanks thus far.

              Home: Kubuntu 12.04-amd64; Intel i7-860 on Intel DH55PJ; Nvidia 9500GT; 6GB RAM
              Network Slave: Xubuntu 11.10-x86; Intel P4-Prescott on MSI; 2GB RAM; Nvidia FX5200
              Portable: Xubuntu 11.10-amd64; Asus EeePC 1015PEM

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                #8
                Re: Nvidia FX5200 proprietary 173 driver issues

                dibl, I went through your tutorial http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3107406.0. Nvidia's script ran smoothly and I used the Xorg configuration tool in the installation. I went to
                Code:
                sudo service kdm start
                , the screen flickered and dropped me back in the textual login.

                Should I give up on this driver for now? I'm afraid I can't think of anything else to do.
                Home: Kubuntu 12.04-amd64; Intel i7-860 on Intel DH55PJ; Nvidia 9500GT; 6GB RAM
                Network Slave: Xubuntu 11.10-x86; Intel P4-Prescott on MSI; 2GB RAM; Nvidia FX5200
                Portable: Xubuntu 11.10-amd64; Asus EeePC 1015PEM

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                  #9
                  Re: Nvidia FX5200 proprietary 173 driver issues

                  It seems that KDM is having some problem running the desktop with the proprietary driver installed.

                  Here are two notions (neither guaranteed ...):

                  1. Repeat what you did by following my installation guide, i.e. install the 173 driver, including running the xorg configuration, but instead of starting KDM, just run lsmod and let's see if it loaded the nvidia driver module. Look for some lines that resemble these:
                  snd_hda_codec_idt 51803 1
                  snd_hda_intel 22290 3
                  snd_hda_codec 67869 2 snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_intel
                  nvidia 10607056 38
                  snd_usb_audio 73823 3
                  snd_hwdep 6180 2 snd_hda_codec,snd_usb_audio
                  snd_pcm_oss 38851 0
                  snd_usb_lib 17280 1 snd_usb_audio
                  I'd like to know if you see the module loaded.

                  2. Post the xorg.conf file that the nvidia driver wrote. It is possible there is a tweak that could fix it.


                  So, there is no error or warning shown at the tail end of the /var/log/Xorg.0.log?

                  Also, here's a post that says the 96.xx driver worked on a FX5200: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...6&postcount=34

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                    #10
                    Re: Nvidia FX5200 proprietary 173 driver issues

                    The plot thickens. lsmod didn't reveal any nvidia module being used by the system. The only error given by the log file is
                    Code:
                    (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
                    which I assume is because it's not playing nice with the 173 driver.

                    Installing the 96 driver through jockey-text and running sudo nvidia-xconfig did not yield a usable X config. I suppose I can try to find the 96.xx.run file from nvidia and use your process.

                    Additionally, because the method I'm using to get back into my X is overwriting the xorg.conf with the xorg.conf.failsafe, I don't know how to post the file that the nvidia driver writes.

                    Too much rebooting and repeating today; I'll get back to it tomorrow. Thanks for anything else, dibl.
                    Home: Kubuntu 12.04-amd64; Intel i7-860 on Intel DH55PJ; Nvidia 9500GT; 6GB RAM
                    Network Slave: Xubuntu 11.10-x86; Intel P4-Prescott on MSI; 2GB RAM; Nvidia FX5200
                    Portable: Xubuntu 11.10-amd64; Asus EeePC 1015PEM

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                      #11
                      Re: Nvidia FX5200 proprietary 173 driver issues

                      I would advise trying to install the downloaded 96.x driver, following my process. You don't have a lot to lose .... :P


                      p.s. If you do NOT attempt to run KDM, after you install the 173 driver and let it write a new xorg.conf, then you'll have the version that the driver wrote. You could go straight to the /etc/X11 directory, and issue
                      Code:
                      sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.173wroteit
                      and then you'll have it.

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                        #12
                        Re: Nvidia FX5200 proprietary 173 driver issues

                        I'll try the manual install of the 96 driver. I have nothing to lose! In fact, I really love these experiences with linux; I always emerge more knowledgeable.

                        Pardon me if I'm being dense but how can I open that xorg.conf and post it here? should I just copy the file to a local directory? One question I've always had: is there a text editor that can be used in command line?
                        Home: Kubuntu 12.04-amd64; Intel i7-860 on Intel DH55PJ; Nvidia 9500GT; 6GB RAM
                        Network Slave: Xubuntu 11.10-x86; Intel P4-Prescott on MSI; 2GB RAM; Nvidia FX5200
                        Portable: Xubuntu 11.10-amd64; Asus EeePC 1015PEM

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                          #13
                          Re: Nvidia FX5200 proprietary 173 driver issues

                          Code:
                          nano xorg.conf

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                            #14
                            Re: Nvidia FX5200 proprietary 173 driver issues

                            I knew there had to be a way. Thanks! I'll post by tomorrow.
                            Home: Kubuntu 12.04-amd64; Intel i7-860 on Intel DH55PJ; Nvidia 9500GT; 6GB RAM
                            Network Slave: Xubuntu 11.10-x86; Intel P4-Prescott on MSI; 2GB RAM; Nvidia FX5200
                            Portable: Xubuntu 11.10-amd64; Asus EeePC 1015PEM

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                              #15
                              Re: Nvidia FX5200 proprietary 173 driver issues

                              OK, I decided to go ahead and do this now. I installed per dibl's instructions the 173 driver. The xorg.conf file it created is:

                              # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
                              # nvidia-xconfig: version 1.0 (buildmeister@builder75) Wed Jan 27 03:02:48 PST 2010

                              # xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file)
                              #
                              # This file was generated by failsafeDexconf, using
                              # values from the debconf database and some overrides to use vesa mode.
                              #
                              # You should use dexconf or another such tool for creating a "real" xorg.conf
                              # For example:
                              # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

                              Section "ServerLayout"
                              Identifier "Default Layout"
                              Screen "Default Screen" 0 0
                              InputDevice "Generic Keyboard" "CoreKeyboard"
                              InputDevice "Configured Mouse" "CorePointer"
                              EndSection

                              Section "InputDevice"
                              Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
                              Driver "kbd"
                              Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
                              Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
                              Option "XkbLayout" "us"
                              EndSection

                              Section "InputDevice"
                              Identifier "Configured Mouse"
                              Driver "mouse"
                              EndSection

                              Section "Monitor"
                              Identifier "Configured Monitor"
                              EndSection

                              Section "Device"
                              Identifier "Configured Video Device"
                              Driver "nvidia"
                              EndSection

                              Section "Screen"
                              Identifier "Default Screen"
                              Device "Configured Video Device"
                              Monitor "Configured Monitor"
                              SubSection "Display"
                              Modes "1440x900"
                              EndSubSection
                              EndSection
                              I tried both the 96 and the 173 driver installations. The xorg.conf created is no different for either of the drivers. After both of the installations and before starting of the kdm service, lsmod was executed and the nvidia module was not in use. Nvidia's xorg.conf file looks just fine, though. . . .
                              Home: Kubuntu 12.04-amd64; Intel i7-860 on Intel DH55PJ; Nvidia 9500GT; 6GB RAM
                              Network Slave: Xubuntu 11.10-x86; Intel P4-Prescott on MSI; 2GB RAM; Nvidia FX5200
                              Portable: Xubuntu 11.10-amd64; Asus EeePC 1015PEM

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