sound screwed

[mdraicch]

Hi to all,

Looks like the same problems with sound are in 9.10 as was in 9.04. Flash has no sound, pulse doesn't work and it looks like I will have to go back to ubuntu. Its a shame, kde looks great and is very responsive.
Oh and for good measure, audacity doesn't work at all, just freezes.

Regards
Muzza

[Axela]

Re: sound screwed

Me too, flash with no sound, mplayer too, alsa doesn't work.
Amarok and kde notifications work...

[dibl]

Re: sound screwed

Which step of the sound troubleshooting guide did you get stuck on:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449

[Axela]

Re: sound screwed

step 1) aplay -l -> failure
aplay: device_list:221: no soundcard found...

step 2) lspci -v -> success
04:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT1708/A [Azalia HDAC] (VIA High Definition Audio Controller) (rev 10)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 81e7
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
Memory at fbffc000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel

[dibl]

Re: sound screwed

That seems to be a problem sound chip, according my searching on Ubuntu Forums and elsewhere.

Have you tried OSS? It is worth a shot -- it has drivers for chips that don't have ALSA drivers, in some cases.

http://www.opensound.com/oss.html

Download the Linux driver/installer from that site, and run the installer.

Change your Linux sound base to OSS:

sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base

and choose OSS.

Reboot your system. No guarantees, but I have seen it work on some laptops where there's no ALSA driver working.

[Axela]

Re: sound screwed

Here there are some other informations:
seems that the alsa drivers works but not the alsa backend?

name=alex&type=33&description=/tmp/alsa-info.txt&expiry=&s=Submit+Post&content=
!!################################
!!ALSA Information Script v 0.4.58
!!################################

!!Script ran on: Sat Oct 31 01:30:45 UTC 2009


!!Linux Distribution
!!------------------

Ubuntu 9.10 \n \l DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 9.10"


!!DMI Information
!!---------------

Manufacturer:   System manufacturer
Product Name:   System Product Name


!!Kernel Information
!!------------------

Kernel release:  2.6.28.9-custom
Operating System: GNU/Linux
Architecture:   i686
Processor:     unknown
SMP Enabled:    Yes


!!ALSA Version
!!------------

Driver version:   1.0.21
Library version:  1.0.21a
Utilities version: 1.0.21


!!Loaded ALSA modules
!!-------------------

snd_hda_intel


!!Sound Servers on this system
!!----------------------------

aRts:
   Installed - Yes (/usr/bin/artsd)
   Running - No


!!Soundcards recognised by ALSA
!!-----------------------------

 0 [VT82xx     ]: HDA-Intel - HDA VIA VT82xx
           HDA VIA VT82xx at 0xfbffc000 irq 17


!!PCI Soundcards installed in the system
!!--------------------------------------

04:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT1708/A [Azalia HDAC] (VIA High Definition Audio Controller) (rev 10)


!!Advanced information - PCI Vendor/Device/Susbsystem ID's
!!--------------------------------------------------------

04:01.0 0403: 1106:3288 (rev 10)
	Subsystem: 1043:81e7


!!Modprobe options (Sound related)
!!--------------------------------

snd-atiixp-modem: index=-2
snd-intel8x0m: index=-2
snd-via82xx-modem: index=-2
snd-usb-audio: index=-2
snd-usb-us122l: index=-2
snd-usb-usx2y: index=-2
snd-usb-caiaq: index=-2
snd-cmipci: mpu_port=0x330 fm_port=0x388
snd-pcsp: index=-2
snd-hda-intel: power_save=10 power_save_controller=N


!!Loaded sound module options
!!--------------------------

!!Module: snd_hda_intel
	bdl_pos_adj : 32,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1
	enable : Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y
	enable_msi : 0
	id : <NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>
	index : -1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1
	model : <NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>
	patch : <NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>
	position_fix : 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
	power_save : 10
	power_save_controller : N
	probe_mask : -1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1
	probe_only : N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N
	single_cmd : N


!!HDA-Intel Codec information
!!---------------------------
--startcollapse--

Codec: Realtek ALC660
Address: 0
Function Id: 0x1
Vendor Id: 0x10ec0861
Subsystem Id: 0x1043c603
Revision Id: 0x100340
No Modem Function Group found
Default PCM:
  rates [0x140]: 48000 96000
  bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
  formats [0x1]: PCM
Default Amp-In caps: N/A
Default Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
GPIO: io=0, o=0, i=0, unsolicited=0, wake=0
Node 0x03 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x405: Stereo Amp-Out
 Amp-Out caps: N/A
 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00]
 Converter: stream=0, channel=0
 Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Node 0x04 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x405: Stereo Amp-Out
 Amp-Out caps: N/A
 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00]
 Converter: stream=0, channel=0
 Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Node 0x05 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x405: Stereo Amp-Out
 Amp-Out caps: N/A
 Amp-Out vals: [0x80 0x80]
 Converter: stream=0, channel=0
 Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Node 0x06 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x405: Stereo Amp-Out
 Amp-Out caps: N/A
 Amp-Out vals: [0x80 0x80]
 Converter: stream=0, channel=0
 Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Node 0x07 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x605: Stereo Digital Amp-Out
 Amp-Out caps: N/A
 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00]
 Converter: stream=0, channel=0
 Digital:
 Digital category: 0x0
 Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Node 0x08 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x10051b: Stereo Amp-In
 Amp-In caps: ofs=0x02, nsteps=0x0d, stepsize=0x0b, mute=1
 Amp-In vals: [0x06 0x06] [0x06 0x06] [0x06 0x06] [0x06 0x06] [0x06 0x06] [0x06 0x06]
 Converter: stream=0, channel=0
 SDI-Select: 0
 PCM:
  rates [0x140]: 48000 96000
  bits [0x2]: 16
  formats [0x1]: PCM
 Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
 Connection: 6
   0x0d* 0x0c 0x0f 0x10 0x11 0x15
Node 0x09 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x0a [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x0b [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400581: Stereo
 Pincap 0x0000001f: OUT HP Detect Trigger ImpSense
 Pin Default 0x01014010: [Jack] Line Out at Ext Rear
  Conn = 1/8, Color = Green
  DefAssociation = 0x1, Sequence = 0x0
 Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
 Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
 Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
 Connection: 1
   0x16
Node 0x0c [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400581: Stereo
 Pincap 0x00000037: IN OUT Detect Trigger ImpSense
 Pin Default 0x01813030: [Jack] Line In at Ext Rear
  Conn = 1/8, Color = Blue
  DefAssociation = 0x3, Sequence = 0x0
 Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN
 Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
 Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
 Connection: 1
   0x19
Node 0x0d [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400581: Stereo
 Pincap 0x00000337: IN OUT Detect Trigger ImpSense
  Vref caps: HIZ 50
 Pin Default 0x01a19831: [Jack] Mic at Ext Rear
  Conn = 1/8, Color = Pink
  DefAssociation = 0x3, Sequence = 0x1
 Pin-ctls: 0x21: IN VREF_50
 Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
 Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
 Connection: 1
   0x18
Node 0x0e [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400581: Stereo
 Pincap 0x00000017: OUT Detect Trigger ImpSense
 Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear
  Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
  DefAssociation = 0xf, Sequence = 0x0
  Misc = NO_PRESENCE
 Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
 Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
 Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
 Connection: 1
   0x19
Node 0x0f [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400581: Stereo
 Pincap 0x0000033f: IN OUT HP Detect Trigger ImpSense
  Vref caps: HIZ 50
 Pin Default 0x0221401f: [Jack] HP Out at Ext Front
  Conn = 1/8, Color = Green
  DefAssociation = 0x1, Sequence = 0xf
 Pin-ctls: 0xc0: OUT HP VREF_HIZ
 Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
 Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
 Connection: 1
   0x1a
Node 0x10 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400581: Stereo
 Pincap 0x0000033f: IN OUT HP Detect Trigger ImpSense
  Vref caps: HIZ 50
 Pin Default 0x02a1983e: [Jack] Mic at Ext Front
  Conn = 1/8, Color = Pink
  DefAssociation = 0x3, Sequence = 0xe
 Pin-ctls: 0x21: IN VREF_50
 Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
 Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
 Connection: 1
   0x1b
Node 0x11 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400001: Stereo
 Pincap 0x00000063: IN Balanced Trigger ImpSense
 Pin Default 0x99330132: [Fixed] CD at Int ATAPI
  Conn = ATAPI, Color = Unknown
  DefAssociation = 0x3, Sequence = 0x2
  Misc = NO_PRESENCE
 Pin-ctls: 0x00:
Node 0x12 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400301: Stereo Digital
 Pincap 0x00000010: OUT
 Pin Default 0x99430120: [Fixed] SPDIF Out at Int ATAPI
  Conn = ATAPI, Color = Unknown
  DefAssociation = 0x2, Sequence = 0x0
  Misc = NO_PRESENCE
 Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
 Connection: 1
   0x07
Node 0x13 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x14 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
 Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
 Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00]
 Connection: 2
   0x0d 0x10
Node 0x15 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20050f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out
 Amp-In caps: ofs=0x0c, nsteps=0x17, stepsize=0x0b, mute=1
 Amp-In vals: [0x05 0x05] [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00]
 Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x0c, nsteps=0x0c, stepsize=0x0b, mute=1
 Amp-Out vals: [0x0c 0x0c]
 Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
 Connection: 3
   0x11 0x14 0x1c
Node 0x16 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
 Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
 Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00]
 Connection: 2
   0x03 0x15
Node 0x17 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
 Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
 Amp-In vals: [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80]
 Connection: 2
   0x04 0x15
Node 0x18 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
 Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
 Amp-In vals: [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80]
 Connection: 2
   0x05 0x15
Node 0x19 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
 Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
 Amp-In vals: [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80]
 Connection: 2
   0x06 0x15
Node 0x1a [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
 Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
 Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] [0x80 0x80] [0x00 0x00] [0x80 0x80]
 Connection: 4
   0x04 0x06 0x15 0x03
Node 0x1b [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
 Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
 Amp-In vals: [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80]
 Connection: 4
   0x04 0x06 0x15 0x03
Node 0x1c [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
 Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
 Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00]
 Connection: 2
   0x0c 0x0f
Node 0x1d [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x1e [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x1f [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400581: Stereo
 Pincap 0x00000017: OUT Detect Trigger ImpSense
 Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear
  Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
  DefAssociation = 0xf, Sequence = 0x0
  Misc = NO_PRESENCE
 Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
 Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
 Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
 Connection: 1
   0x18
Node 0x20 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400581: Stereo
 Pincap 0x00000017: OUT Detect Trigger ImpSense
 Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear
  Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
  DefAssociation = 0xf, Sequence = 0x0
  Misc = NO_PRESENCE
 Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
 Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
 Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
 Connection: 1
   0x17
 Processing Coefficient: 0x00
 Coefficient Index: 0x00
Node 0x21 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x22 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x23 [Beep Generator Widget] wcaps 0x70000c: Mono Amp-Out
 Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x0f, nsteps=0x0f, stepsize=0x0b, mute=1
 Amp-Out vals: [0x8f]
--endcollapse--


!!ALSA Device nodes
!!-----------------

total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 60 Oct 31 02:26 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 60 Oct 31 02:26 ..
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Oct 31 02:26 pci-0000:04:01.0 -> ../../controlC0


!!Aplay/Arecord output
!!------------

APLAY

aplay: device_list:223: no soundcards found...

ARECORD

arecord: device_list:223: no soundcards found...

!!Amixer output
!!-------------

!!-------Mixer controls for card 0 [VT82xx]

Invalid card number.
Usage: amixer <options> [command]

Available options:
 -h,--help    this help
 -c,--card N   select the card
 -D,--device N  select the device, default 'default'
 -d,--debug   debug mode
 -n,--nocheck  do not perform range checking
 -v,--version  print version of this program
 -q,--quiet   be quiet
 -i,--inactive  show also inactive controls
 -a,--abstract L select abstraction level (none or basic)
 -s,--stdin   Read and execute commands from stdin sequentially

Available commands:
 scontrols    show all mixer simple controls
 scontents	 show contents of all mixer simple controls (default command)
 sset sID P   set contents for one mixer simple control
 sget sID    get contents for one mixer simple control
 controls    show all controls for given card
 contents    show contents of all controls for given card
 cset cID P   set control contents for one control
 cget cID    get control contents for one control
Invalid card number.
Usage: amixer <options> [command]

Available options:
 -h,--help    this help
 -c,--card N   select the card
 -D,--device N  select the device, default 'default'
 -d,--debug   debug mode
 -n,--nocheck  do not perform range checking
 -v,--version  print version of this program
 -q,--quiet   be quiet
 -i,--inactive  show also inactive controls
 -a,--abstract L select abstraction level (none or basic)
 -s,--stdin   Read and execute commands from stdin sequentially

Available commands:
 scontrols    show all mixer simple controls
 scontents	 show contents of all mixer simple controls (default command)
 sset sID P   set contents for one mixer simple control
 sget sID    get contents for one mixer simple control
 controls    show all controls for given card
 contents    show contents of all controls for given card
 cset cID P   set control contents for one control
 cget cID    get control contents for one control


!!Alsactl output
!!-------------

--startcollapse--
--endcollapse--


!!All Loaded Modules
!!------------------

Module
binfmt_misc
vboxnetadp
vboxnetflt
vboxdrv
vmnet
vmblock
vmci
vmmon
radeon
drm
coretemp
dm_crypt
w83627ehf
hwmon_vid
snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hda_intel
snd_pcm_oss
snd_hda_codec
snd_hwdep
snd_mixer_oss
snd_seq_dummy
snd_pcm
snd_seq_oss
snd_seq_midi
snd_rawmidi
snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq
snd_timer
snd_seq_device
snd
soundcore
via_agp
shpchp
ppdev
iptable_filter
snd_page_alloc
joydev
agpgart
i2c_viapro
parport_pc
parport
ip_tables
loop
psmouse
serio_raw
x_tables
usbhid
via_rhine
mii
raid10
raid456
async_xor
async_memcpy
async_tx
xor
raid1
raid0
multipath
linear


!!Sysfs Files
!!-----------

/sys/class/sound/hwC0D0/init_pin_configs:
0x0b 0x01014010
0x0c 0x01813030
0x0d 0x01a19831
0x0e 0x411111f0
0x0f 0x0221401f
0x10 0x02a1983e
0x11 0x99330132
0x12 0x99430120
0x1f 0x411111f0
0x20 0x411111f0

/sys/class/sound/hwC0D0/driver_pin_configs:

/sys/class/sound/hwC0D0/user_pin_configs:

/sys/class/sound/hwC0D0/init_verbs:


!!ALSA/HDA dmesg
!!------------------

[  20.060629] agpgart-via 0000:00:00.0: AGP aperture is 512M @ 0xc0000000
[  21.217349] HDA Intel 0000:04:01.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
[  21.217410] HDA Intel 0000:04:01.0: setting latency timer to 64
[  21.217415] HDA Intel 0000:04:01.0: PCI: Disallowing DAC for device
[  21.341030] hda_codec: ALC660: BIOS auto-probing.
[  21.342512] input: HDA Digital PCBeep as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:13.0/0000:04:01.0/input/input6
--
[ 110.388139]  groups: 1 0
[ 174.653179] hda-intel: IRQ timing workaround is activated for card #0. Suggest a bigger bdl_pos_adj.

[Axela]

Re: sound screwed

That seems to be a problem sound chip, according my searching on Ubuntu Forums and elsewhere.

Have you tried OSS? It is worth a shot -- it has drivers for chips that don't have ALSA drivers, in some cases.

http://www.opensound.com/oss.html

Download the Linux driver/installer from that site, and run the installer.

Change your Linux sound base to OSS:

sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base

and choose OSS.

Reboot your system. No guarantees, but I have seen it work on some laptops where there's no ALSA driver working.

alsa worked perfectly before 9.10... When I upgraded from 9.4 all went wrong (no alsa, no xv, stupid Networkmanager behaviour), for me this is the worst kubuntu release EVER! :-(

[Loadus]

Re: sound screwed

I'm having similar problems here. Using Terratec Aureon Space 7.1 soundcard.

Audio worked fine on 9.04, but after upgrade audio only works in system, e.g. playing
music on Dragonplayer, systemsounds. When I fire up WINE or Virtualbox, sound dies.

Using the command
$killall pulseaudio

worked with WINE, but Virtualbox kills all audio, nothing works after it.

In System Settings > Multimedia I had pulseaudio as default in 9.04, which worked in
about every program out there. Now, it's silent, so I have to select

'Terratec Aureon 7.1-Space (ICE1724)'

to get any sound out. And when I start Virtualbox, every sound output dies out.
When I press Test on PulseAudio, it clearly plays it - the sound _does_ go somewhere,
just not to the outputs. When the ICE1724 output dies, it won't hold the Test button
down, it jumps up immediatly (the output is just dead).

Is there a way to "zap" the card to reset or is there a quick fix for this? Restarting the
system is getting on my nerves + I need sound for Virtualbox very badly (working
on a remix).

Virtualbox has many sound options, none of them work, the System Settings >
Multimedia page has many options, none of them work. I kind of ran out of
ideas here. Any help appreciated. ^^

What if I install the 9.10 from the CD, does anyone know if this will fix the audio?

EDIT:
Just noticed that Virtualbox mutes the Master and PCM controls when it powers
down, so that's why there was no audio on the system (had to re-open the mixer
to see this). There are still occasions when the sound totally dies though.

If I stumble on a solution, I'll post it here. ^^

EDIT 2:
Got the sound working. From the mixer, I changed the output of IEC958 from
"PCM Out" to "H/W 0" and IEC958 2 from "PCM Out" to "H/W 1". All other
outputs to "PCM Out". That fixed all the nags about outputs not working.

Fixed at least on my computer. Almost stole the thread, sorry about that. :P

EDIT 3:
No, skip that. Sound is still fubar. Now with Kdeinit4, X and some other stuff
constantly crashing, I'm thinking about going back to 9.04.

[Axela]

Re: sound screwed

I think I fixed my problem.
It all started because I keep my old custom kernel (2.6.28.9) instead of upgrading to 2.6.31 (I use loop-AES and it doesn't work with the standard ubuntu kernel).
So I had different version from alsa-driver and alsa-lib e and alsa-utils.
I recompiled all the 3 packets from the last version and installed it.
For some strange reason the ./configure script of alsa-lib set the alsa-devdir to /dev/snd but alsa-driver used /dev! I found that the hard way by putting some 'printf' inside some files of alsa-lib.
So I had to give: ./configure --alsa-devdir=/dev inside alsa-lib and recompile and reinstall it.
No all work again... :-)