compiz on 9.04 with kde 3.5.10

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I have just switched up to 9.04 with kde 3.5.10 from 8.04 and I am trying to get compiz to work, I have the nvidia drivers installed, glxinfo is good, the gears test works, the compiz-check script is ok, I suspect the problem is with 9.04 and kde 3 when I look in adept I see compiz and compiz kde3 stuff, I've tried them both separately and together, compiz tries to start then kicks me back to kwin with no errors that I can tell, maybe I should use git? any help would be appreciated.

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Re: compiz on 9.04 with kde 3.5.10

I have made some headway, got an error message anyway

terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::logic_error'
 what(): basic_string::_S_construct NULL not valid

some googleing seemed to point to language settings, when I run the locale command I get this

LANG=
LC_CTYPE="POSIX"
LC_NUMERIC="POSIX"
LC_TIME="POSIX"
LC_COLLATE="POSIX"
LC_MONETARY="POSIX"
LC_MESSAGES="POSIX"
LC_PAPER="POSIX"
LC_NAME="POSIX"
LC_ADDRESS="POSIX"
LC_TELEPHONE="POSIX"
LC_MEASUREMENT="POSIX"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="POSIX"
LC_ALL=

I notice that the LANG= is blank, when I looked at /etc/default/locale it says this LANG="en_US.utf-8",
so I'm not sure what is going on