Random Crashes.

[SirRudolph]

I have an Acer Aspire 3680-2682 (Celeron M 1.86GHz, 2GB RAM, 120GB HDD Kubuntu9.04)
I mainly am running just simple things that came with the software, like Amarok, Kopete, And firefox is the one of the only external things i've installed. I use wicd for I have an Atheros WifiCard.

The OS just seems to crash at random times.
The keyboard will freeze up, if Music is playing it will continue. The mouse moves, but nothing can be clicked.
I really can use some help. Not sure what can be causing this, perhaps its my specs? ._.

[dibl]

Re: Random Crashes.

if Music is playing it will continue.

This fact reveals that the system is NOT crashed, only the X server is crashed. This means that the issue is probably limited to a video driver problem. So, in a Konsole window run

lspci -v

and post the section that begins something like this:

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: .........

[vinnywright]

Re: Random Crashes.

same hear for about a week or 2 -3 I first notesed it after a round of updates that included firefox-3.0.14 but firefox dosent half to be open for the freeze to ocure ..(at first I was thinking firefox was the culpret) ..and same hear with the musick ....it hapend wile I was using VLC and the hole play list finished (2 songs left) with no keybord actions working (exep the alt>sysrq R,S,E,I,U,B) and the mouse curser abele to move around the screne but not abele to select or do eneything but the musick happley playing away to my frustration.

I'v ben trying to ketch a runaway prosess with top but it never happens wile I have it runing ware I can see it if things freeze..........(he hears the computer snicker as he types this----or was that hard drive thrashing?) ..................it literaley just did it twice in a row just befor I got to this post ........verey unusual it usualey onley happens once every day or three..........and the second was as to not alowe the alt>sysrq thing ........it was power button off

I uped from KDE 4.2.2 to 4.3.1 but still the same (I was going to up to 4.3.1 eneyway)

nothing about this is reprodusable it just seams random with no comon denominator.

VINNY

PS sorey dibl I was righting this wile you posted..... :P hear's mine sence the prob seams the same.

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)
Subsystem: Gateway 2000 Device 4037
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16
Memory at ffa80000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]
I/O ports at ec00 size=8
Memory at d0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
Memory at ffa40000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256K]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel modules: intelfb

the [ ] were removed from size=8 for the posting........leving them makes the text from that point on WAY to large...........LOL

[dibl]

Re: Random Crashes.

Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)

I can only feel sorry for the folks struggling with these Intel GPUs. I know there are issues making the Intel drivers work -- there's a whole thread on Ubuntu Forum on the topic:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582

[SirRudolph]

Re: Random Crashes.

~vinnywright

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML
Express integrated graphics controller (rev 03)
subsystem" Acer incorporated [ALI] Device 0110
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, Latency 0, IRQ 16
memory at d0300000 (32-bit non prefetchable [size=512k]
I/O ports at 1800 [ size=8 ]
Memory at c0000000 (32-bit prefetchable) [size=256m]
Memory at d0400000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256k]
Capabilities: <access denied> (even in sudo)
Kernel Modules: intelfb

Yeah.. i have Intel too. They really should stick to processors >.>

[josefko]

Re: Random Crashes.

Sometimes helps, at least partly System Settings - Desktop - Desktop effects - switch off desktop effects.

[SirRudolph]

Re: Random Crashes.

@josefko
Thanks for the tip, i'll have to do that when im working with the fixes on the ubuntuforums.

[GreyGeek]

Re: Random Crashes.

I just loaded Karmic daily 9/17/09 onto an Acer Aspire 3690. It, too, has a 945GM video chip. Sofar, both the video and the rest of the PC is running great under Karmic. I have loaded SecondLife and it runs very well also. Not one crash, not one problem. I did do an md5sum on both the downloaded ISO and on the CD after I burned it to make sure both were good.

[vinnywright]

Re: Random Crashes.

Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)

I can only feel sorry for the folks struggling with these Intel GPUs. I know there are issues making the Intel drivers work -- there's a whole thread on Ubuntu Forum on the topic:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582

well I did the Safe/Optimal ......that is all exept the kernel and things got worse my glxgears wint down to 2-300 FPS and extream tux racer down to 12-16 FPS along with x and plasma having higher load averag so I just reverted back and all seams good agin glxgears is back up to 1000 or so and tux up to 24-30 FPS..................................still wating for a freeze but mabey not.

time to leave well enuff alone and be happy.

VINNY

[SirRudolph]

Re: Random Crashes.

Vinny, it said not to trust GlxGears.
I did the same with the safe config, But i cant get the Key installed in the step

2. Import the X Updates PPA key, update your apt sources, and perform an upgrade:
Code:
$ sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com AF1CDFA9
$ sudo apt-get update
$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

When I type the first step my terminal comes back saying "option --recv-keys isnt understood"
Anyone want to help me with that, Its for the X-updates package.

@greygeek,
Im a linux newbie at best. Is Karmic a different branch OS? or similar to a replacement to plasma?

[vinnywright]

Re: Random Crashes.

vinny@desktop:~$ sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com AF1CDFA9
[sudo] password for vinny:
Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring --secret-keyring /etc/apt/secring.gpg --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com AF1CDFA9
gpg: requesting key AF1CDFA9 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
gpg: key AF1CDFA9: "Launchpad PPA for Ubuntu-X" not changed
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg: unchanged: 1
vinny@desktop:~$

? I dont know it works hear did you get the repos in to the sources.list ok

deb [url]http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu[/url] jaunty main #X-Updates PPA
deb-src [url]http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu[/url] jaunty main #X-Updates PPA

Vinny, it said not to trust GlxGears.

ya I know thats why I included extreme tux racer to and keping an eye on top I see things like xorg,plasma,kwin jumping up and down as you do diferent things.

and it would seam as though thay jumpet up higher for longer and more ofen with that stuff ......for me eney way.

I'm going to log into Gnome the rest of the week and see if it will happen hear.

VINNY

[SirRudolph]

Re: Random Crashes.

Alrighty.
And I got the repos in
But when i type

sudo apt-get update

I'm warned that I have no public key.
But its seems their installed, I havent crashed.
If I do, i'll go over to Gnome for awhile too.

Oy... Nevermind, Now im stuck in command line interface... ._.

[vinnywright]

Re: Random Crashes.

......day one in Gnome and Gdm.......no freeze's...........back tomarow.

VINNY

[SirRudolph]

Re: Random Crashes.

Okay after recovering, the KDE is working less then perfect. But its definitely more stable than before, And I have had No crashes, Although I did need to reinstall my internet (firefox) And I still have no sound, But its working quite well ^_^

[vinnywright]

Re: Random Crashes.

ok 3-4 day's in Gnome (added Gnome to Kubuntu 9.04 KDE 4.3.1) and no freezes yet .............

SO dose that exclude the intel GPU xorg bug or not?

I would think it now becomes a KDE thing but that would be a first gess.

and let me add in Gnome I am useng compiz.real for 3D and in KDE the default (Kwin I gess).



VINNY