[SOLVED, POORLY] Bad Time upgrade to kde 4.3 plasma-desktop DOA!

[sithlord48]

i have been running 4.3 since the first beta release for jaunty, and after upgrade to final version from what had been kde 4.3 rc 3 for about 2 weeks or so. when i log in i get a black screen with my mouse cursor, or sometimes the background of my spash screen just stays back there, i get no panels and can not right click on my "desktop" at all, plasma-desktop is not running at all. if i try to run plasma-desktop, it will not run and i get alot of errors. below is a sample

chris@void:~$ plasma-desktop
QDBusObjectPath: invalid path ""
QLayout: Attempting to add QLayout "" to QWidget "", which already has a layout
findServiceByDesktopPath: /usr/share/applications/VirtualBox.desktop not found 
findServiceByDesktopPath: /usr/share/applications/firefox-3.5.desktop not found
findServiceByDesktopPath: systemsettings not found 
!!!the lines below get repeated about 1000 times with what seams to be random 2 and 1 for the index!!!
QGraphicsGridLayout::itemAt: invalid index 2                                
QGraphicsGridLayout::itemAt: invalid index 2                                
QGraphicsGridLayout::itemAt: invalid index 1                                
QGraphicsGridLayout::itemAt: invalid index 2                                
QGraphicsGridLayout::itemAt: invalid index 1

i have no problems how ever using the computer as kwin is 100% working, and all the keyboard shortcuts work (infact i am using it now to run firefox 3.5 so i can write this post) compiz works if i enable it. it seams the only thing that doesnt work is the plasma-desktop.
everything seams to have be upgraded correctly as far as i can tell

chris@void:~$ plasma-desktop --v
Qt: 4.5.2
KDE: 4.3.00 (KDE 4.3.0)
Plasma Workspace: 0.3

one other thing i also noticed is when i run plasma

chris@void:~$ plasma
The program 'plasma' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
sudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace-bin
bash: plasma: command not found

and then i try to install the package..

chris@void:~$ sudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace-bin
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
kdebase-workspace-bin is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded

i have tried things suggested on other posts about upgrade problems as well nothing i have tried has worked.. i have
reinstalled kde-core,all of my kdebase-* packages, i also have ran: dpkg --configure -a, and quite and restarted after every one.. still getting the same error running plasma-desktop, also dolphin's about kde reports using kde 4.3.0.0
also as a note i did add the other ppa to my sources.list needed for the upgrade from the announcement.

upgrading on my laptop worked 100% .. and that was also from kde 4.3rc3

[lmilano]

Re: Bad Time upgrade to kde 4.3 plasma-desktop DOA!

Hi

Have you tried installing kubuntu-desktop?
http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3105560.0

[sithlord48]

Re: Bad Time upgrade to kde 4.3 plasma-desktop DOA!

yes the kubuntu-desktop package is installed...

[lmilano]

Re: Bad Time upgrade to kde 4.3 plasma-desktop DOA!

I updated the first post in the announcement thread. The other popular fix is

apt-get install -reinstall kde-core

[sithlord48]

Re: Bad Time upgrade to kde 4.3 plasma-desktop DOA!

i have also tried that (althougth with -reinstall it gives an errror) output below.

chris@void:~$ sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde-core
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/8158B of archives.
After this operation, 0B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y
(Reading database ... 215190 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace kde-core 5:48ubuntu2~jaunty1~ppa1 (using .../kde-core_5%3a48ubuntu2~jaunty1~ppa1_all.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement kde-core ...
Setting up kde-core (5:48ubuntu2~jaunty1~ppa1) ...

still no plasma-desktop (same error as above still)
thanks for the attempts, i would format but its just so odd, that now i have to fix it.
gonna keep playing with out a desktop for a while perhaps i will get it working or not ... either way i will keep you posted here.

[lmilano]

Re: Bad Time upgrade to kde 4.3 plasma-desktop DOA!

Ah, someone mentioned removing and then installing back kubuntu-desktop, worth a try?

[GreyGeek]

Re: Bad Time upgrade to kde 4.3 plasma-desktop DOA!

I updated to 4.3 yesterday and it has been rock solid for me.

What specific, repeatable action can you do which will blow up the desktop? I want to try and repeat it on my desktop.

[sithlord48]

Re: Bad Time upgrade to kde 4.3 plasma-desktop DOA!

I updated to 4.3 yesterday and it has been rock solid for me.

What specific, repeatable action can you do which will blow up the desktop? I want to try and repeat it on my desktop.

thats the thing all i do is log in and it never starts.

i did 'fix' it yesterday although not how i wanted to but a fresh install is sometimes better. before i did that i tried a few other things..

i installed xfce4 removed kubuntu-desktop (and all kde packages including kdm) with purges, rebooted machine and reinstall kubuntu-desktop. that did not fix anything i got the same issue.. so with that i decided to just do a fresh install.

[lmilano]

Re: [SOLVED, POORLY] Bad Time upgrade to kde 4.3 plasma-desktop DOA!

Wow, in your case, I believe it's a different issue (some bug in KDE, where your settings prevented 4.3 from loading). Go figure!

[kubicle]

Re: [SOLVED, POORLY] Bad Time upgrade to kde 4.3 plasma-desktop DOA!

@sithlord48
You mentioned you tried a few other things to fix, did you try clearing the plasma config files? (rm ~/.kde/share/config/plasm*)

There are a few changes to plasma from 4.2 to 4.3 which could cause configuration conflicts (especially since your problems seemed to be plasma related).

one other thing i also noticed is when i run plasma
Code:
chris@void:~$ plasma
The program 'plasma' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
sudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace-bin
bash: plasma: command not found

Kde 4.3 uses 'plasma-desktop' to start plasma, not 'plasma' anymore (just to explain the 'command-not-found' error)

[sithlord48]

Re: [SOLVED, POORLY] Bad Time upgrade to kde 4.3 plasma-desktop DOA!

Kde 4.3 uses 'plasma-desktop' to start plasma, not 'plasma' anymore (just to explain the 'command-not-found' error)

I thought that was the wrong, but i figured i would try just incase.

i did not try to remove any files from my ~/ other then files removed when i purged kde completely via

sudo apt-get purge <kde packages here>

[kubicle]

Re: [SOLVED, POORLY] Bad Time upgrade to kde 4.3 plasma-desktop DOA!

i did not try to remove any files from my ~/ other then files removed when i purged kde completely via

sudo apt-get purge <kde packages here>

Purging should remove system wide configuration files, but won't touch user configurations (in /home)...so it's possible the plasma config files were the cause of your problems.

[lmilano]

Re: [SOLVED, POORLY] Bad Time upgrade to kde 4.3 plasma-desktop DOA!

i did not try to remove any files from my ~/ other then files removed when i purged kde completely via

sudo apt-get purge <kde packages here>

Purging should remove system wide configuration files, but won't touch user configurations (in /home)...so it's possible the plasma config files were the cause of your problems.

Yes. For folks like us who like to break things, play and experiment, I recommend two things:

1. Install a light DE. I install icewm. It will let you login to a graphical environment if you break KDE.
2. Install a "test" KDE account, and keep all the default settings

[sithlord48]

Re: [SOLVED, POORLY] Bad Time upgrade to kde 4.3 plasma-desktop DOA!

its all good this machine is just for me to play with. All my data is on the server so, formating is not really a problem. it takes me about 5 min after install to reset the configs i need so its no biggie.

but i did install xfce4 when i was having this issue, and removed kde4 completely ,except for files in ~/ because purge don't remove em(that is goog to know btw i will keep it in mind).

since the format i installed kde 4.3, and it much faster then rc3 (the hooks... :P ).

[Guest]

Re: [SOLVED, POORLY] Bad Time upgrade to kde 4.3 plasma-desktop DOA!

So I just ran in to the same symptoms after upgrading to kde 4.3 from 4.2. I got the login screen fine, but after logging in when KDE was starting the icons to "materialize" (the progress indicator), after the first icon the screen would go white. Actually both my screens would go white. I have a dual-head card with the nvidia proprietary driver (v180 from the restricted drivers). So when I first upgraded KDE I rebooted and came up to only 1 monitor enabled, so I went into the nvidia-settings and enabled the other - no problem. When I rebooted later that day I ran into the white screen problem above, but wait - there was another symptom. So after the white screens appeared, it took a maybe 10 seconds for the KDE progress bar (the thing with the icons (the KDE big icon being the last)) to finish loading (I am assuming since all I saw was white), then both screens went black (but still received a signal). Then I noticed that I saw a plasma-ish outline of a window that popped up and went away and also noticed that if I clicked on where the KDE launcher button should be, I could see a black plasma-ish kde menu pop up - without actually seeing any of the icons. After several times rebooting and getting the same outcome, I tried to revert to the Xorg.conf.failsafe and KDM started up and allowed me to login with one screen (well, actually there were 2 screens active but they were showing mirror images of the first screen). I then repeated the process for copying over the xorg.conf which was set to use only one screen with the nvidia driver and restarted. After that I was able to get in as expected and configured twinview again. Everything was good. I rebooted to check my suspicion and I was back to the white and black screen problem again. After I go it back up with the failsafe again I found this thread and (after ensuring kubuntu-desktop and other packages were indeed installed) removed the plasma files (located .kde/share/config/plasm*), copied over the xorg.conf that was set to use the nvidia driver and restarted kdm. It came up fine (as it did before) and I configured twinview again and rebooted. When it came back up both screens were up as should be expected (I have since rebooted a couple more times just to make sure).
So....I am guessing that as not everyone is having problems with this that it might be dual screen related? Not having looked into (or really know much at all about) the plasma files I removed, would this make sense to anyone?

Thanks,

Brian