jaunty blocked updates

[jithin1987]

I noticed that most times when I do update on KPackage kit. I see some blocked updates.
Then I resolve it by using apt-get dist-upgrade. Is that the correct way or is it because some updates are not yet reached repository and should I wait.

[vista killer]

Re: jaunty blocked updates

This a problem of kpackagekit. You can use for updates adept or synaptic if you install them

[jithin1987]

Re: jaunty blocked updates

I thought that KPackage kit was is going to replace Adept in kubuntu jaunty. And searching packages is very cool with KPackage kit.

[vista killer]

Re: jaunty blocked updates

Yes but i think kpackagekit have too many problems.

[claydoh]

Re: jaunty blocked updates

So far it looks like we may have both Adept and KPackageKit for Jaunty, unless they can fix the bigger bugs. It is pretty stable, but there are still some niggly issues, as we can see.

[jithin1987]

Re: jaunty blocked updates

This behaviour of kpackage kit is same as that of apt-get update. Its also says updates help back. May Kpackage kit just calls apt-get update. If there are blocked updates they need to call apt-get dist-update

[liviubero]

Re: jaunty blocked updates

I can confirm this (using Jaunty Beta):

sudo apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done                     
Building dependency tree                       
Reading state information... Done                   
The following packages have been kept back:              
 language-support-translations-en                  
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.

But trying a dist-upgrade will ask me if I want to install a bunch of gnome-related packages:

sudo apt-get dist-upgrade 
Reading package lists... Done       
Building dependency tree          
Reading state information... Done     
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
 doc-base docbook-xml esound-clients esound-common gamin gconf2 gconf2-common
 gnome-doc-utils gnome-keyring gnome-mime-data gnome-mount gnome-user-guide
 gnome-user-guide-en gvfs gvfs-backends libaudiofile0 libavahi-glib1
 libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common libbonoboui2-0 libbonoboui2-common
 libcdio-cdda0 libcdio-paranoia0 libcdio7 libesd-alsa0 libfreezethaw-perl
 libgail-common libgail18 libgamin0 libgconf2-4 libgcr0 libgnome-keyring0
 libgnome2-0 libgnome2-common libgnomecanvas2-0 libgnomecanvas2-common
 libgnomeui-0 libgnomeui-common libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common
 libgnomevfs2-extra libgp11-0 libgvfscommon0 liblaunchpad-integration1
 libmldbm-perl libnotify1 liborbit2 libpam-gnome-keyring libpolkit-gnome0
 libproxy0 librarian0 libscrollkeeper0 libsexy2 libsoup-gnome2.4-1
 libsoup2.4-1 libuuid-perl libwnck-common libwnck22 libxres1
 notification-daemon policykit-gnome scrollkeeper sgml-data xsltproc yelp
The following packages will be upgraded:
 language-support-translations-en
1 upgraded, 65 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 8876kB of archives.
After this operation, 72.3MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
Abort.

Now I don't know what to do. Should I install these packages?

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EDIT:
I just sudo apt-get install language-support-translations-en and then upgraded ok.

[GreyGeek]

Re: jaunty blocked updates

I usually use Synaptic and it seems to work OK.

I like it because 1) it keeps track of what I downloaded and when, so that if I have problems I can look back and see what was installed just before the problem began, and 2) I like the way it presents the list of files in the right panel. It is easy to tell by the green blocks which are installed, IF there is another version available (and the ability to choose a version and lock it), and more.

[flarson]

Re: jaunty blocked updates

If you want your system to be up to date with regard to the 9.04 development then install the packages. To me that means yes install them.

I really don't think any of the GUI package managers are anything other than a frontend for apt are they?

[GreyGeek]

Re: jaunty blocked updates

If you want your system to be up to date with regard to the 9.04 development then install the packages. To me that means yes install them.

I really don't think any of the GUI package managers are anything other than a frontend for apt are they?

True, but while KpackageKit will present some as being "Blocked", Synaptic never does. I "assumed" that they were being blocked because of some conflict but, apparently, that is not the case. Also, IMO, Synaptic is MUCH easier to use and gives more options than KPackageKit.

[flarson]

Re: jaunty blocked updates

I have not experience with synaptic, but the times Ihave seen blocked packages in kpackagekit aptitude would hold them back because of unresolvable dependencies.

Synaptic probably does have more options than Kpackagekit, but I'll bet it has fewer than aptitude.

[GreyGeek]

Re: jaunty blocked updates

....
Synaptic probably does have more options than Kpackagekit, but I'll bet it has fewer than aptitude.

Can't say, I haven't any experience with Aptitude.

[The Liquidator]

Re: jaunty blocked updates

Has the adept update notifier been disabled in jaunty? I sort of miss the little icon telling me updates are available.

Is there any way of re-enabling it as I think I'd rather stick with that and apt-get until packagekit is properly sorted.

Thanks

ian

[flarson]

Re: jaunty blocked updates

The package update-notifier-common includes a file /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99update-notifier which causes that icon to pop up when apt is run. If you are not getting the icon you probably do not have update-notifier installed.