No GUI after upgrade from 8.04 KDE 4.1

[petersk]

Re: No GUI after upgrade from 8.04 KDE 4.1

I hear you, but I can't afford to reinstall, I have too many things set up just the way I need them. Like Apache2, web sites, svn repositories, fuppes, samba, etc., etc. cups, etc.

I wish there was a way to guarantee no configuration changes during a re-instal.
Kurt

[pansz]

Re: No GUI after upgrade from 8.04 KDE 4.1

I hear you, but I can't afford to reinstall, I have too many things set up just the way I need them. Like Apache2, web sites, svn repositories, fuppes, samba, etc., etc. cups, etc.
I wish there was a way to guarantee no configuration changes during a re-instal.
Kurt

I'm often confused about such statement: if you really have important stuffs in your system, if you really lived happy with your current settings, if you really use kubuntu on a production system, Why upgrade at all? Why "upgrade" an LTS system into a non-LTS one?

Is there anything in 9.04 you cannot live without? I doubt it.

Simply "keep with 8.04.2" solves all problems, and that's what I'm doing for our production server.
You ought to do investigation and experiment before you upgrade your production system.

[petersk]

Re: No GUI after upgrade from 8.04 KDE 4.1

Sadly, I was greedy and wanted the "latest", and was hoping an upgrade would be painless. Who knew? It's difficult to "experiment" with an upgrade, isn't it... unless people have systems just lying about that they have no use for but as an experimental system.

[flarson]

Re: No GUI after upgrade from 8.04 KDE 4.1

So lets fix it. First you need to show me the output of lspci, as it shows you video card. To avoid typing it you can do something like
lspci |tee pci.out
and then move it to another computer to post here.

Do you know which version of the NVIDIA drivers you were running? The same ones should work under Jaunty. If not we can figure it out from the lspci output.

[petersk]

Re: No GUI after upgrade from 8.04 KDE 4.1

Attached are the lspci results.

I should note that after doing a reconfigure on my xserver, my xorg.conf is REALLY short now. Apparently, the new X11 doesn't use the file anymore That is copy and pasted below my name.


Kurt

xorg.conf NOW:
# sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "Device"
Identifier "Configured Video Device"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Configured Monitor"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Monitor "Configured Monitor"
Device "Configured Video Device"
EndSection

[flarson]

Re: No GUI after upgrade from 8.04 KDE 4.1

That will use the legacy 71 drivers. Is X running at all right now? If not you should add this line
Driver "nv"
right after the line
Identifier "Configured Video Device"
and then run
sudo invoke-rc.d kdm restart
and see if you get something. It will be easier to use nvidia-xconfig if you have that working.

To install the appropriate driver un
sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-71 nvidia-71-kernel-source nvidia-settings
That should install cleanly. It would be best if you have X running with the nv driver before you install the drivers. Then nvidia-xconfig will have a starting place, although it might be capable of generating a good xorg.conf without that. It might depend on your monitor and whether it provides EDID info.

[barbolani]

Re: No GUI after upgrade from 8.04 KDE 4.1

petersk, perhaps you could try one of those two things (making a copy of xorg.conf first):

1- Edit your xorg.conf and replace Driver "nvidia" with Driver "nv". That should allow X to start with the basic NVidia driver (no fancy effects but at least a GUI)
2- Edit your xorg.conf and empty all sections. This will let Xorg choose whatever it thinks it needs to start.

By the way, I upgraded using the alternate install and answered "No" when it asked at the beginning if I wanted to get the latest updated from the Internet. I thought I was going to save time, but what really happened is that when the upgraded finished and even after running apt-get update && apt-get upgrade noticed that some packages were still "blocked". Executing aptitude dist-upgrade cleared those and did some more updates. After that I think that my system was completely upgraded.

[petersk]

Re: No GUI after upgrade from 8.04 KDE 4.1

mando_hacker, I'm not sure what you mean, by "get something"... The screen blinks a few times and then goes back to the command prompt when I restart after doing what you suggested + the aptitude install.

That didn't work. kdm seems to start, but still no graphics.

Is there a non-graphical way to configure nvidia?
When I do a nvidia-settings --glxinfo, I get ERROR: Cannot open display ''.

[petersk]

Re: No GUI after upgrade from 8.04 KDE 4.1

I just noticed kernel 2.6.28-12 generic was being held back, so I did a dist-upgrade to get it to upgrade. It did. While installing, it looks like it's building the 71.86.08 nvidia module and installing it as well as executing the /etc/kernel/postinst.d/nvidia-common

I'll let you know if that helps me at all shortly.

Nope. didn't help
Kurt

[petersk]

Re: No GUI after upgrade from 8.04 KDE 4.1

Interestingly I CAN ssh -Y into the machine that doesn't start and xeyes works on the remote machine.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[flarson]

Re: No GUI after upgrade from 8.04 KDE 4.1

You should do what I suggested in the first part of reply 20 and what barbolini said in reply 21. They are the same thing and will get you running the nv driver from xorg. It is not accelerated but it will work. Once that is working ( by get anything I meant does X work) you can try to install the proprietary drivers to get acceleration.

[petersk]

Re: No GUI after upgrade from 8.04 KDE 4.1

Sorry if you didn't understand my reply to you in 20 and him in 21. I DID try those things and wrote the description of what happened when I tried them in 22. Not to be a "you-know-what", but if you read my reply, I specifically say "The screen blinks a few times and then goes back to the command prompt when I restart after doing what you suggested + the aptitude install."

Current xorg.conf is:

Section "Device"
Identifier "Configured Video Device"
Driver "nv"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Configured Monitor"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Monitor "Configured Monitor"
Device "Configured Video Device"
EndSection

[flarson]

Re: No GUI after upgrade from 8.04 KDE 4.1

So that means you have the proprietary kernel module on your system and probably installed in the kernel while trying to use the nv driver. I don't know the exact implications of that but my guess would be that it will lead to problems.

[petersk]

Re: No GUI after upgrade from 8.04 KDE 4.1

OK, then... what do I do to re-remove the proprietary one so I can use the Driver "nv" properly?
Kurt

[flarson]

Re: No GUI after upgrade from 8.04 KDE 4.1

sudo aptitude purge nvidia-glx-71 nvidia-71-kernel-source