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    #16
    Re: shut down IDE ?

    Vinny when mine throw the ide error it shuts off about half a second later... again on both machines, maybe even my 3rd "server" machine (no screen)so i can't be sure. i guess what i am trying to get at is the machines i know that do have that error both shut off very soon after showing the error. and the other just shuts off , to turn it off i issue (via ssh)
    Code:
    sudo shutdown -P 00
    as for your dolphin 'errors' there common when running a program from konsole. i see them with just about every program i run the only error is dolphin can't talk to nepomuk. perhaps your not running it.

    when your computer is booting do you get any errors or messages?
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      #17
      Re: shut down IDE ?

      Originally posted by sithlord48
      Vinny when mine throw the ide error it shuts off about half a second later... again on both machines, maybe even my 3rd "server" machine (no screen)so i can't be sure. i guess what i am trying to get at is the machines i know that do have that error both shut off very soon after showing the error. and the other just shuts off , to turn it off i issue (via ssh)
      Code:
      sudo shutdown -P 00
      No Sir I let it sit on.....system halted........for 30 minuts and it never powerd off!

      Originally posted by sithlord48
      as for your dolphin 'errors' there common when running a program from konsole. i see them with just about every program i run the only error is dolphin can't talk to nepomuk. perhaps your not running it.
      well thars allso the ........

      Code:
      Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-vinny" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
Error: "/tmp/kde-vinny" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
      and the fact I still cant do root things like make a dir. or a system link!

      Originally posted by sithlord48
      when your computer is booting do you get any errors or messages?
      No!

      this is geting bad if you cant be root ......... ..........well .

      VINNY
      i7 4core HT 8MB L3 2.9GHz
      16GB RAM
      Nvidia GTX 860M 4GB RAM 1152 cuda cores
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        #18
        Re: shut down IDE ?

        Originally posted by vinnywright
        no no it shut's down clean the prob your discribing is what hapend when I edited the /ect/init.d/halt shell script 1 time JUST removing the -d from the line and puting it back dident fix it untill after I called sudo halt 1 time then it went away?
        Did you try what I asked? How do you know what state it is in when you are looking at a blank screen?


        and hears a new one I can seam to be abel to mkdir LOOK........

        Code:
        vinny@Kubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /proc/ide
[sudo] password for vinny:
mkdir: cannot create directory `/proc/ide': No such file or directory
vinny@Kubuntu:~$
        /proc is not a disk system, it is the linux kernel. Normal behavior.
        look what I get when I sudo dolphin

        Code:
        inny@Kubuntu:~$ sudo dolphin
Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-vinny" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
Error: "/tmp/kde-vinny" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
"/usr/bin/dolphin(4381)" Error in thread 3050858240 : "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files"
"/usr/bin/dolphin(4381)" Error in thread 3050858240 : "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name"
dolphin(4381) <unnamed>::GlobalModelContainer::init: Failed to connect to Nepomuk server via local socket "/home/vinny/.kde/share/apps/nepomuk/socket"
dolphin(4381): Attempt to use QAction "close_tab" with KXMLGUIFactory!
dolphin(4381): Attempt to use QAction "show_info_panel" with KXMLGUIFactory!
dolphin(4381): Attempt to use QAction "show_folders_panel" with KXMLGUIFactory!
dolphin(4381): Attempt to use QAction "show_terminal_panel" with KXMLGUIFactory!
dolphin(4381): Attempt to use QAction "show_places_panel" with KXMLGUIFactory!
vinny@Kubuntu:~$ Error: "/tmp/ksocket-vinny" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
        What you are seeing there is that root, uid 0, does not have access to the X server or KDE Desktop. This is why kdesudo should be used to run kde programs in X. Normal behavior.
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          #19
          Re: shut down IDE ?

          oh sorry i forgot about your mkdir in /proc you can't do that nor can root , as mando points out.
          Originally posted by shutdown --help
          -P power off after shutdown (implies -h)
          -v, --verbose increase output to include informational messages
          it will halt first you don't need to add the other -h because its already implied, you might want to run with the -v option once to see if you get any additional useful infomation.
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            #20
            Re: shut down IDE ?

            Originally posted by mando_hacker
            Originally posted by vinnywright
            no no it shut's down clean the prob your discribing is what hapend when I edited the /ect/init.d/halt shell script 1 time JUST removing the -d from the line and puting it back dident fix it untill after I called sudo halt 1 time then it went away?
            Did you try what I asked? How do you know what state it is in when you are looking at a blank screen?
            I'm NOT looking at a blank screen eney more! BUT when I was your sugjeston of ctrl>alt>backspace
            restarted the Xserver and gave me the desktop back.....BUT that wasent the original problem just an escalation of it when I edited the /ect/init.d/halt shell script BUT that has ben RESALVED (fixed)
            all thats left is the power off AFTER shutdown thing.


            and hears a new one I can seam to be abel to mkdir LOOK........

            Code:
            vinny@Kubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /proc/ide
[sudo] password for vinny:
mkdir: cannot create directory `/proc/ide': No such file or directory
vinny@Kubuntu:~$

            /proc is not a disk system, it is the linux kernel. Normal behavior.
            O my bad for trying to rite to /proc ......the idea was to try a system link to /proc/scsi/scsi (where the disk info is) called /proc/ide (ware halt is looking for it)
            Code:
             -h   Iterates /proc/ide to find all IDE disk drives and requests that they enter a standby mode before shutting down. On Linux, this is unnecessary as
       the kernel will do this anyway.
            look what I get when I sudo dolphin

            Code:
            inny@Kubuntu:~$ sudo dolphin
Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-vinny" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
Error: "/tmp/kde-vinny" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
"/usr/bin/dolphin(4381)" Error in thread 3050858240 : "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files"
"/usr/bin/dolphin(4381)" Error in thread 3050858240 : "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name"
dolphin(4381) <unnamed>::GlobalModelContainer::init: Failed to connect to Nepomuk server via local socket "/home/vinny/.kde/share/apps/nepomuk/socket"
dolphin(4381): Attempt to use QAction "close_tab" with KXMLGUIFactory!
dolphin(4381): Attempt to use QAction "show_info_panel" with KXMLGUIFactory!
dolphin(4381): Attempt to use QAction "show_folders_panel" with KXMLGUIFactory!
dolphin(4381): Attempt to use QAction "show_terminal_panel" with KXMLGUIFactory!
dolphin(4381): Attempt to use QAction "show_places_panel" with KXMLGUIFactory!
vinny@Kubuntu:~$ Error: "/tmp/ksocket-vinny" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.

            What you are seeing there is that root, uid 0, does not have access to the X server or KDE Desktop. This is why kdesudo should be used to run kde programs in X. Normal behavior.
            kdesudo dolphin produces nearley identical output ........but both ways sudo or kdesudo it works ......when your not trying to edit /proc...............LOL......

            to reIterat myself the ONLEY querk now is not powering off AFTER shutdown uther than that every thing is great I like my Jackalope. 8)

            well and that stupid you nead to fork error in Kpackegkit but thats a miner anoence.........

            VINNY

            i7 4core HT 8MB L3 2.9GHz
            16GB RAM
            Nvidia GTX 860M 4GB RAM 1152 cuda cores
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              #21
              Re: shut down IDE ?

              OK. It does not power off. You tell it to shutdown hard and power off and it does something until it stops doing anything. When it stops doing anything what is on your monitor?
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                #22
                Re: shut down IDE ?

                the last line on the moniter is..........

                Code:
                halt: Unable to iterate IDE Devices: No such file or directory
                as in the original post.

                witch is ware I got the idea to try a system link to /proc/scsi/scsi (where the disk info is) called /proc/ide (ware halt is looking for it)

                this was taken from the man page for halt
                Code:
                 -h   Iterates /proc/ide to find all IDE disk drives and requests that they enter a standby mode before shutting down. On Linux, this is unnecessary as
       the kernel will do this anyway.
                but eneyway every thing has shut down by the time it stops on the line ubuve it just dosent power off!!

                VINNY

                PS: I apolagise if I'm hard to understand or to get my meaning across and I apresheate all the help thank you all.
                I'm a 47 year old constuction worker with a 9th grade education and a strange form of spelling dislexiea + I cant type SO it's dificalte some times. it took 18 minuts to rite this.
                i7 4core HT 8MB L3 2.9GHz
                16GB RAM
                Nvidia GTX 860M 4GB RAM 1152 cuda cores
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