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**flarson** · May 11, 2009, 07:43 PM

Re: shut down IDE ?

If you look in /etc/init.d/halt and /etc/init.d/reboot you will find that the commands generated there use options that are either not available in the halt or reboot commands, or are not required under linux because the kernel does this already. The disk (-h) is one of the later. This is an Ubuntu modification to the Debian base in the use of upstart and they seem to have not noticed that computers are failing to shutdown cleanly because of it. You can edit those scripts to fix this and I have described how to do that in this forum.

**vinnywright** · May 11, 2009, 07:59 PM

Re: shut down IDE ?

Originally posted by mando_hacker

You can edit those scripts to fix this and I have described how to do that in this forum.

Cool................a...........

.................could ya point me to where you discribed it..........

............becose dowing a serch for ..............shut down IDE..............got me back hear..........LOL.

please.

VINNY

**flarson** · May 11, 2009, 08:20 PM

Re: shut down IDE ?

http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...7597#msg177597

**vinnywright** · May 11, 2009, 08:37 PM

Re: shut down IDE ?

thank you sir.........

my prob is just on shutdown and it's on x86 ...........but im gowing to try the removing -d option from halt and see what happens...........I'll post back.

strangely enuff I was reading the man page for halt and looking at /etc/init.d/halt when you posted back....and had just notesed the -d wasent in the man page

well let's see what removing it dose!!!!

VINNY

**vinnywright** · May 11, 2009, 09:30 PM

Re: shut down IDE ?

this is strang?

ok so I sudo dolphin and go to /etc/init.d and open halt with kate.
I remove the -d from the halt comand and save the file.
then closed every thing and whent to shutdown and it hangs with a black screen so I ctrl>alt>back to restart the xserver and get back to the desktop.......strang?..........so I go back and put the -d back.
AND the same thing happens

?

the halting on a black screen onley started AFTER editing the file and changing it back dident fix it?

eney idease ??

**flarson** · May 11, 2009, 10:14 PM

Re: shut down IDE ?

While testing this you should probably use either

Code:

sudo halt

or

Code:

sudo telinit 0

to halt and

Code:

sudo reboot

or

Code:

sudo telinit 6

to reboot. That will make sure the scripts actually get run. There also seems to be a problem with consolekit that stops the X server from restarting and there is some code that checks for VT logins and ssh logins while shutting down and will pop up a window. All those things seem to affect this.

**vinnywright** · May 12, 2009, 05:35 PM

Re: shut down IDE ?

Originally posted by mando_hacker

While testing this you should probably use either

Code:

sudo halt

or

Code:

sudo telinit 0

to halt and

Code:

sudo reboot

or

Code:

sudo telinit 6

to reboot. That will make sure the scripts actually get run. There also seems to be a problem with consolekit that stops the X server from restarting and there is some code that checks for VT logins and ssh logins while shutting down and will pop up a window. All those things seem to affect this.

OK

BUT I think you mite have misunderstood me.

the ONLEY problem I had was when shuting down it would shutdown and then not turn off the power but it DID shutdown the system.

NOW after editing the /ect/init.d/halt shell script 1 time JUST removing the -d from the line

Code:

halt -d -f $netdown $poweroff $hddown

the system will start to shutdown but hang rite after shuting down the display and go no further.

even after putting the -d back in the line it's still hanging when it WAS shuting down but not turning off the power.

and that's the onley thing I did!!!

VINNY

UPDATE : after caling sudo halt 1 time the system once agin shuts down OK to the point of not turnig off the power.

**dibl** · May 12, 2009, 06:24 PM

Re: shut down IDE ?

Try ( in the Konsole)

Code:

sudo shutdown now -h

**vinnywright** · May 12, 2009, 07:26 PM

Re: shut down IDE ?

Originally posted by dibl

Try ( in the Konsole)

Code:

sudo shutdown now -h

dose the same as.

Code:

sudo halt

the system shuts down but I still half to push the power button to turn it off.

VINNY

**flarson** · May 12, 2009, 09:15 PM

Re: shut down IDE ?

Code:

sudo shutdown -hP now

should have the desired effect. This seems to be the default on my laptop but not on a desktop. I am not sure how that is controlled.

**sithlord48** · May 15, 2009, 11:16 AM

Re: shut down IDE ?

i get that message on shutdown on my computers too. my laptop has and ide drive (well two cdrom is ide also).
but my desktop has only sata devices. so why i get it on that i don't know. but for me it does not seam to be causing any issues...

**vinnywright** · May 15, 2009, 03:52 PM

Re: shut down IDE ?

Originally posted by mando_hacker

Code:

sudo shutdown -hP now

should have the desired effect. This seems to be the default on my laptop but not on a desktop. I am not sure how that is controlled.

No Sir the same as before ?

the sys shut's down cleanley but I half to push the power button off.

VINNY

**flarson** · May 15, 2009, 03:56 PM

Re: shut down IDE ?

When the system has shutdown as far as it goes and you are sitting there at a black screen. what happens if you do Ctl-Alt-Del? Does it show any message? If it shows a message before rebooting it has not actually shutdown entirely.

**vinnywright** · May 15, 2009, 04:50 PM

Re: shut down IDE ?

Originally posted by mando_hacker

When the system has shutdown as far as it goes and you are sitting there at a black screen. what happens if you do Ctl-Alt-Del? Does it show any message? If it shows a message before rebooting it has not actually shutdown entirely.

no no it shut's down clean the prob your discribing is what hapend when I edited the /ect/init.d/halt shell script 1 time JUST removing the -d from the line and puting it back dident fix it untill after I called sudo halt 1 time then it went away?

the last thing I see is is the system taking out the 2 net cards and then....
system halted: .........when I do the sudo shutdown -hP now

and

halt: Unable to iterate IDE Devices: No such file or directory

when suting down thrugh the logout window!

and hears a new one I can seam to be abel to mkdir LOOK........

Code:

vinny@Kubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /proc/ide
[sudo] password for vinny:
mkdir: cannot create directory `/proc/ide': No such file or directory
vinny@Kubuntu:~$

WHAT the F is that?
or is thar a diferent way to make a dir. in kubuntu?

look what I get when I sudo dolphin

Code:

inny@Kubuntu:~$ sudo dolphin
Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-vinny" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
Error: "/tmp/kde-vinny" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
"/usr/bin/dolphin(4381)" Error in thread 3050858240 : "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files"
"/usr/bin/dolphin(4381)" Error in thread 3050858240 : "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name"
dolphin(4381) <unnamed>::GlobalModelContainer::init: Failed to connect to Nepomuk server via local socket "/home/vinny/.kde/share/apps/nepomuk/socket"
dolphin(4381): Attempt to use QAction "close_tab" with KXMLGUIFactory!
dolphin(4381): Attempt to use QAction "show_info_panel" with KXMLGUIFactory!
dolphin(4381): Attempt to use QAction "show_folders_panel" with KXMLGUIFactory!
dolphin(4381): Attempt to use QAction "show_terminal_panel" with KXMLGUIFactory!
dolphin(4381): Attempt to use QAction "show_places_panel" with KXMLGUIFactory!
vinny@Kubuntu:~$ Error: "/tmp/ksocket-vinny" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.

and I dont get eney root options when it open's ?

even still the sudo mkdir should have worked!

VINNY

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