secondary harddrives missing on 8.10

[aged hippy]

Re: secondary harddrives missing on 8.10

Intrepid certainly mounts my sda1 which is the XP partition, and sdb1, which is an XP backup partition without my interference, not sure what you want from fstab

[toad]

Re: secondary harddrives missing on 8.10

Ah, the man to the rescue - just post your fstab so I can see how an ntfs is mounted

Cheers!

[aged hippy]

Re: secondary harddrives missing on 8.10

my current fstab from Intrepid:

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point>  <type> <options>    <dump> <pass>
proc      /proc      proc  defaults    0    0
# /dev/sda5
UUID=e2af4609-89b6-4611-b57e-c7f45dde168b /        ext3  relatime,errors=remount-ro 0    1
# /dev/sda6
UUID=b0961db8-1ca8-402e-81ee-6787c5ffe720 /home      ext3  relatime    0    2
# /dev/sda7
UUID=6215f702-718b-4d4d-92ee-843dc63728ec /usr/local/Local ext3  relatime    0    2
# /dev/sda3
UUID=5c1a0e99-52e5-4415-8ed1-313b00fbc168 /usr/local/Local-home ext3  relatime    0    2
# /dev/sda2
UUID=f1123ad5-acc7-4828-bbad-f423d03eedb6 /usr/local/Local-root ext3  relatime    0    2
# /dev/sdb2
UUID=853570ad-1e59-427b-80e6-8915ddb0bdba /usr/local/Non-local ext3  relatime    0    2
# /dev/sda1
UUID=EA04DAC004DA8F47 /windows/XP   ntfs  defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0    1
# /dev/sdb1
UUID=2BDAE8CE1FBBF0FB /windows/XP-backup ntfs  defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0    1
# /dev/sda8
UUID=7b41826a-74e6-48b7-93a0-42f78e9eacc2 none      swap  sw       0    0
/dev/scd0    /media/cdrom0  udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0    0

and the fstab from Hardy (the default boot option):

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# -- This file has been automaticly generated by ntfs-config -- 
#
# <file system> <mount point>  <type> <options>    <dump> <pass>

proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# Entry for /dev/sda2 :
UUID=f1123ad5-acc7-4828-bbad-f423d03eedb6 / ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1
# Entry for /dev/sda3 :
UUID=5c1a0e99-52e5-4415-8ed1-313b00fbc168 /home ext3 relatime 0 2
# Entry for /dev/sda6 :
UUID=b0961db8-1ca8-402e-81ee-6787c5ffe720 /usr/local/Local-home ext3 relatime 0 2
# Entry for /dev/sda5 :
UUID=e2af4609-89b6-4611-b57e-c7f45dde168b /usr/local/Local-root ext3 relatime 0 2
# Entry for /dev/sda7 :
UUID=6215f702-718b-4d4d-92ee-843dc63728ec /usr/local/Local-storage ext3 relatime 0 2
# Entry for /dev/sdb2 :
UUID=853570ad-1e59-427b-80e6-8915ddb0bdba /usr/local/Non-local ext3 relatime 0 2
# Entry for /dev/sdb1 :
UUID=2BDAE8CE1FBBF0FB /windows/Non-local ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_GB.UTF-8 0 1
# Entry for /dev/sda1 :
UUID=EA04DAC004DA8F47 /windows/XP ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_GB.UTF-8 0 1
# Entry for /dev/sda8 :
UUID=7b41826a-74e6-48b7-93a0-42f78e9eacc2 none swap sw 0 0
/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0

If it's of any help.

[dibl]

Re: secondary harddrives missing on 8.10

It's been a couple years since I stopped dual booting, but the NTFS mount command goes like this:

sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdc1 /media/foodata

Where "foodata" is of course your mount point in /media.

EDIT: Whoops -- do like AH says!

[toad]

Re: secondary harddrives missing on 8.10

Okay nesta, here goes:

Take your existing fstab and get rid of the crap:

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# /dev/sda5
UUID=9e9d7522-18a8-4e81-adff-8133bf3f5ecc / ext3 nouser,relatime,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1
# /dev/sda6
UUID=cf53576b-1cc1-4410-b3a1-567c5a3e883e none swap sw 0 0
/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,utf8,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto user,utf8,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0

Now you want to add

/dev/sda1 ntfs 400IDE /sda1 2C9404349403FF58
/dev/sdb1 ntfs 400GB (not mounted) 584CB4274CB3FDB6
/dev/sdc1 ntfs 400GB /sdc1 0A1C6D0D1C6CF4DB

Correct? Taking AH's 8.10 fstab as a guide we make up the following:

# /dev/sda1
UUID=2C9404349403FF58 /sda1 ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
# /dev/sdb1
UUID=584CB4274CB3FDB6 /sdb1 ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
# /dev/sdc1
UUID=0A1C6D0D1C6CF4DB /sdc1 ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 1

Now we append that to your cleansed fstab to come up with the following:

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# /dev/sda5
UUID=9e9d7522-18a8-4e81-adff-8133bf3f5ecc / ext3 nouser,relatime,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1
# /dev/sda6
UUID=cf53576b-1cc1-4410-b3a1-567c5a3e883e none swap sw 0 0
/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,utf8,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto user,utf8,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
# /dev/sda1
UUID=2C9404349403FF58 /sda1 ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
# /dev/sdb1
UUID=584CB4274CB3FDB6 /sdb1 ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
# /dev/sdc1
UUID=0A1C6D0D1C6CF4DB /sdc1 ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 1

Hey presto, save that as your /etc/fstab, create the mount points

sudo mkdir /sda1
sudo mkdir /sdb1
sudo mkdir /sdc1

and finally mount everything

sudo mount -a

and your drives should be there.

Oh, and you might want to change the rights of the mount points to include the user. Use chmod or ask.

HTH

[nesta]

Re: secondary harddrives missing on 8.10

Okay nesta, here goes:

Take your existing fstab and get rid of the crap:

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# /dev/sda5
UUID=9e9d7522-18a8-4e81-adff-8133bf3f5ecc / ext3 nouser,relatime,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1
# /dev/sda6
UUID=cf53576b-1cc1-4410-b3a1-567c5a3e883e none swap sw 0 0
/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,utf8,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto user,utf8,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0

Now you want to add

/dev/sda1 ntfs 400IDE /sda1 2C9404349403FF58
/dev/sdb1 ntfs 400GB (not mounted) 584CB4274CB3FDB6
/dev/sdc1 ntfs 400GB /sdc1 0A1C6D0D1C6CF4DB

Correct? Taking AH's 8.10 fstab as a guide we make up the following:

# /dev/sda1
UUID=2C9404349403FF58 /sda1 ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
# /dev/sdb1
UUID=584CB4274CB3FDB6 /sdb1 ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
# /dev/sdc1
UUID=0A1C6D0D1C6CF4DB /sdc1 ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 1

Now we append that to your cleansed fstab to come up with the following:

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# /dev/sda5
UUID=9e9d7522-18a8-4e81-adff-8133bf3f5ecc / ext3 nouser,relatime,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1
# /dev/sda6
UUID=cf53576b-1cc1-4410-b3a1-567c5a3e883e none swap sw 0 0
/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,utf8,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto user,utf8,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
# /dev/sda1
UUID=2C9404349403FF58 /sda1 ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
# /dev/sdb1
UUID=584CB4274CB3FDB6 /sdb1 ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
# /dev/sdc1
UUID=0A1C6D0D1C6CF4DB /sdc1 ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 1

Hey presto, save that as your /etc/fstab, create the mount points

sudo mkdir /sda1
sudo mkdir /sdb1
sudo mkdir /sdc1

and finally mount everything

sudo mount -a

and your drives should be there.

Oh, and you might want to change the rights of the mount points to include the user. Use chmod or ask.

HTH

Thanks a lot for that HTH. The problem now is editing the fstab file. The output for this command:
kdesu kate
is:
bash: kdesu: command not found

Thanks!

[dibl]

Re: secondary harddrives missing on 8.10

In 8.10 you have to use "kdesudo". So it's Alt-F2 "kdesudo kate /etc/fstab"

[nesta]

Re: secondary harddrives missing on 8.10

Okay nesta, here goes:

Take your existing fstab and get rid of the crap:

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# /dev/sda5
UUID=9e9d7522-18a8-4e81-adff-8133bf3f5ecc / ext3 nouser,relatime,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1
# /dev/sda6
UUID=cf53576b-1cc1-4410-b3a1-567c5a3e883e none swap sw 0 0
/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,utf8,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto user,utf8,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0

Now you want to add

/dev/sda1 ntfs 400IDE /sda1 2C9404349403FF58
/dev/sdb1 ntfs 400GB (not mounted) 584CB4274CB3FDB6
/dev/sdc1 ntfs 400GB /sdc1 0A1C6D0D1C6CF4DB

Correct? Taking AH's 8.10 fstab as a guide we make up the following:

# /dev/sda1
UUID=2C9404349403FF58 /sda1 ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
# /dev/sdb1
UUID=584CB4274CB3FDB6 /sdb1 ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
# /dev/sdc1
UUID=0A1C6D0D1C6CF4DB /sdc1 ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 1

Now we append that to your cleansed fstab to come up with the following:

I copied this right below into my /etc/fstab file and saved. I then made the directories, using the commands given below. Here are the outputs:
mykel@Kbun4600:~$ sudo mdir /sda1
[sudo] password for mykel:
sudo: mdir: command not found
mykel@Kbun4600:~$ sudo mkdir /sda1
mkdir: cannot create directory `/sda1': File exists
mykel@Kbun4600:~$ sudo mkdir /sdb1
mkdir: cannot create directory `/sdb1': File exists
mykel@Kbun4600:~$ sudo mkdir /sdc1
mkdir: cannot create directory `/sdc1': File exists
mykel@Kbun4600:~$ sudo mount -a
[mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
mount: special device /dev/fd0 does not exist
The result: the HDs are still not showing up in Dolphin.
Thanks for all your assistance.

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# /dev/sda5
UUID=9e9d7522-18a8-4e81-adff-8133bf3f5ecc / ext3 nouser,relatime,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1
# /dev/sda6
UUID=cf53576b-1cc1-4410-b3a1-567c5a3e883e none swap sw 0 0
/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,utf8,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto user,utf8,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
# /dev/sda1
UUID=2C9404349403FF58 /sda1 ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
# /dev/sdb1
UUID=584CB4274CB3FDB6 /sdb1 ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
# /dev/sdc1
UUID=0A1C6D0D1C6CF4DB /sdc1 ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 1

Hey presto, save that as your /etc/fstab, create the mount points

sudo mkdir /sda1
sudo mkdir /sdb1
sudo mkdir /sdc1

and finally mount everything

sudo mount -a

and your drives should be there.

Oh, and you might want to change the rights of the mount points to include the user. Use chmod or ask.

HTH

Thanks a lot for that HTH. The problem now is editing the fstab file. The output for this command:
kdesu kate
is:
bash: kdesu: command not found

Thanks!

[nesta]

Re: secondary harddrives missing on 8.10

I copied the modified /etc/fstab file and saved. I then made the directories, using the commands given below. Here are the outputs:
mykel@Kbun4600:~$ sudo mdir /sda1
[sudo] password for mykel:
sudo: mdir: command not found
mykel@Kbun4600:~$ sudo mkdir /sda1
mkdir: cannot create directory `/sda1': File exists
mykel@Kbun4600:~$ sudo mkdir /sdb1
mkdir: cannot create directory `/sdb1': File exists
mykel@Kbun4600:~$ sudo mkdir /sdc1
mkdir: cannot create directory `/sdc1': File exists
mykel@Kbun4600:~$ sudo mount -a
[mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
mount: special device /dev/fd0 does not exist

This is my new fstab file, the same you gave me. I reposting it just so we're on the same page. I basically copied, pasted and saved it.
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# /dev/sda5
UUID=9e9d7522-18a8-4e81-adff-8133bf3f5ecc / ext3 nouser,relatime,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1
# /dev/sda6
UUID=cf53576b-1cc1-4410-b3a1-567c5a3e883e none swap sw 0 0
/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,utf8,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto user,utf8,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
# /dev/sda1
UUID=2C9404349403FF58 /sda1 ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
# /dev/sdb1
UUID=584CB4274CB3FDB6 /sdb1 ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
# /dev/sdc1
UUID=0A1C6D0D1C6CF4DB /sdc1 ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 1

The result: the HDs are still not showing up in Dolphin.
Thanks for all your assistance. I tried to quote you but it did not work. Sorry. This took all day yesterday, and today I'm beginning to wonder if I should just simply go back to 8.4, and wait.

[toad]

Re: secondary harddrives missing on 8.10

So you have files called sdx1? Let's have a look at the following:

cd /
ls -la

We can, of course, rename the mount points for your windows stuff. Any preferences?

Also, the last line business is fairly self explanatory, simply add a line to the end

[nesta]

Re: secondary harddrives missing on 8.10

So you have files called sdx1? Let's have a look at the following:

cd /
ls -la

We can, of course, rename the mount points for your windows stuff. Any preferences?

Also, the last line business is fairly self explanatory, simply add a line to the end

Here is the output of ls -la. You will not that the first two lines have ".". I think these are the dots I was talking about in another post.
total 120
drwxr-xr-x 24 root root 4096 2008-11-17 21:24 .
drwxr-xr-x 24 root root 4096 2008-11-17 21:24 ..
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-11-14 22:16 bin
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2008-11-14 22:17 boot
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2008-10-14 11:08 cdrom -> media/cdrom
drwxr-xr-x 16 root root 14440 2008-11-17 23:19 dev
drwxr-xr-x 147 root root 12288 2008-11-17 23:39 etc
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2008-10-14 11:16 home
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-07-01 14:49 initrd
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 32 2008-11-06 16:57 initrd.img -> boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-7-generic
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 33 2008-10-14 17:51 initrd.img.old -> boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-21-generic
drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 12288 2008-11-14 22:16 lib
drwx------ 2 root root 16384 2008-10-14 11:08 lost+found
drwxr-xr-x 13 root root 4096 2008-11-17 21:28 media
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-04-14 23:53 mnt
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2008-10-30 20:09 opt
dr-xr-xr-x 186 root root 0 2008-11-17 14:27 proc
drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4096 2008-11-17 23:43 root
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-11-14 22:16 sbin
drwxrwx--- 1 root plugdev 8192 2008-11-11 14:50 sda1
drwxrwx--- 1 root plugdev 4096 2008-11-11 20:02 sdb1
drwxrwx--- 1 root plugdev 8192 2008-11-11 12:52 sdc1
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-07-01 14:49 srv
drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 0 2008-11-17 14:27 sys
drwxrwxrwt 13 root root 4096 2008-11-18 07:44 tmp
drwxr-xr-x 13 root root 4096 2008-11-06 18:00 usr
drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4096 2008-10-31 22:09 var
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 2008-11-06 16:57 vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 30 2008-10-14 17:51 vmlinuz.old -> boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-21-generic

Thanks a million. Since you're determined to sort this out, I'm with you then. Let's do it!

[toad]

Re: secondary harddrives missing on 8.10

Okay, your sdx1 are directories. Please check whether they are empty. If they are all is well.

Also, have you added the extra line to the end of the fstab yet?

Right, if the above two conditions are met you may as well try a

sudo mount -a

Now have a look whether they are still empty...

[nesta]

Re: secondary harddrives missing on 8.10

I can confirm that Cd-ing to one of those sdx1 in the konsole, I get a list of all the files. So we can can conclude that the drives are mounting. They are not showing up in Dolphin. SO the problem is would seem now is with Dolphin, not whether the drives are mounting. I can see list of dir/folders when I type, for example:
cd /sdc1
at the konsole. So, my friend, why won't they show up in Dolphin.

I've added the line.

Meanwhile,
sudo mount -a
outputs:
mykel@Kbun4600:/sdc1$ sudo mount -a
[sudo] password for mykel:
mount: special device /dev/fd0 does not exist

Thanks a lot again. You've been kind.

[toad]

Re: secondary harddrives missing on 8.10

'ang on there. They MUST show up in dolphin.

Just open dolphin, go down to root level and you will see all your sdx1s there. You can now drag them over to the left sidebar so you have handy shortcuts.

BTW, are you happy with them belonging to root or do you want them to belong to you?

[nesta]

Re: secondary harddrives missing on 8.10

Thanks a lot. The problem seems to be solved. I went to "root" in Dolphin and dragged them over to the sidebar. Now I can click on them (sdx1) from the sidebar and get access to the folders/directory. This is very good and thanks. Thanks a million. I feel like I should have your phone number or something. Can I be your personal assistant? Your secretary, your best friend, your neighbor, your brother, your daughter, your son. Can I be something to you? Can I? I've read a lot of forums for help, but never posted to them. Tons of forums of many years. This is my first, and you made it wonderful. There are bits and bits of issues with 8.10, but I trust you will help with them soon enough.

Thanks so much. Please say what disadvantages there are for having them as root, as oppose to usr. And how I can change that.

Also about those dots. Finally, is the a way to clean up, or, as they say in the mac world, 'bless' the system after an upgrade from 8.4 to 8.10? Some things that could be done to clean things up a bit.

Thanks, thanks a lot my friend and please say I can be your neighbor.