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    System Freeze: Kubuntu 8.04 AMD 64

    Thank you for reading this post

    I am running Kubuntu 8.04 AMD64 on an Athlon 4000+ with 4Gb of RAM, two identical SATA 500 Gb HDD, two identical GeForce 8600 GT 256 Mb Graphics Cards on SLI. The Motherboard is an ABIT KN8-SLI.
    I have only one problem: Sometimes, randomly as far as I can tell, the system freezes completely. The screen(s) freeze, the system becomes completely unresponsive, Ctrl+Alt+Backspace will not restart X, I cannot invoke the task manager and waiting does nothing (I've experimented waiting up to 6 hours). The only thing I can do is a hard reboot, and then the system reacts as if nothing odd has happened.
    I apologize, I know that I am giving next to no information...
    I don't know how to diagnose or begin to investigate this problem, any pointers are greatly appreciated.

    Here's the output from sysinfo:
    SYSTEM INFORMATION
    Running Ubuntu Linux, the Ubuntu 8.04 (hardy) release.
    GNOME: 2.22.3 (Ubuntu 2008-07-09)
    Kernel version: 2.6.24-21-generic (#1 SMP Tue Aug 12 13:03:01 UTC 2000)
    GCC: 4.2.3 (x86_64-linux-gnu)
    Xorg: unknown (13 June 2008 01:10:57AM) (13 June 2008 01:10:57AM)
    Hostname: 555
    Uptime: 0 days 5 h 51 min

    CPU INFORMATION
    AuthenticAMD, AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 4000+
    Number of CPUs: 1
    CPU clock currently at 1000.000 MHz with 1024 KB cache
    Numbering: family(15) model(55) stepping(2)
    Bogomips: 2010.50
    Flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow up rep_good pni lahf_lm

    MEMORY INFORMATION
    Total memory: 3955 MB
    Total swap: 11585 MB

    STORAGE INFORMATION
    SCSI device - scsi0
    Vendor: SONY
    Model: DVD RW DRU-190A
    SCSI device - scsi4
    Vendor: ATA
    Model: ST3500320AS
    SCSI device - scsi5
    Vendor: ATA
    Model: ST3500320AS

    HARDWARE INFORMATION
    MOTHERBOARD
    Host bridge
    Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
    PCI bridge(s)
    nVidia Corporation CK804 PCI Bridge (rev a2) (prog-if 01 [Subtractive decode])
    nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
    nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
    nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
    nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
    USB controller(s)
    nVidia Corporation CK804 USB Controller (rev a2) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
    nVidia Corporation CK804 USB Controller (rev a3) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
    ISA bridge
    nVidia Corporation CK804 ISA Bridge (rev a3)
    Subsystem: ABIT Computer Corp. Unknown device 1c1b
    IDE interface
    nVidia Corporation CK804 Serial ATA Controller (rev f3) (prog-if 85 [Master SecO PriO])
    Subsystem: ABIT Computer Corp. Unknown device 1c1b

    GRAPHIC CARD
    VGA controller
    nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600 GT (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
    Subsystem: XFX Pine Group Inc. Unknown device 4016

    SOUND CARD
    Multimedia controller
    nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)
    Subsystem: ABIT Computer Corp. Unknown device 1c1b

    NETWORK
    Ethernet controller
    Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
    Subsystem: Belkin F5D5000 PCI Card/Desktop Network PCI Card

    NVIDIA GRAPHIC CARD INFORMATION
    Model name: GeForce 8600 GT
    Card Type: PCI-E 8x
    Video RAM: 256 MB
    GPU Frequency: 620 MHz
    Driver version: NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module 169.12 Thu Feb 14 17:51:09 PST 2008
    Does it follow that I reject all authority? Perish the thought! In the matter of boots, I defer to the authority of the bootmaker. <br /> -Mikhail Bakunin-, &quot;God and the State&quot;
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    #2
    Re: System Freeze: Kubuntu 8.04 AMD 64

    When you think your system is frozen:
    HOWTO: Unlock A Supposedly-Locked Up System
    Windows no longer obstructs my view.
    Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
    "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes​
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      #3
      Re: System Freeze: Kubuntu 8.04 AMD 64

      I'll try this the next time it locks up, thanks. Is there a log of X server crashes on my system? Or is there a way to create one?
      Does it follow that I reject all authority? Perish the thought! In the matter of boots, I defer to the authority of the bootmaker. <br /> -Mikhail Bakunin-, &quot;God and the State&quot;
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        #4
        Re: System Freeze: Kubuntu 8.04 AMD 64

        Log files for xorg.conf are located in /var/log. What you want to look at is the Xorg.0.log file.
        Windows no longer obstructs my view.
        Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
        "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes​
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          #5
          Re: System Lockup: Kubuntu 8.04 AMD 64

          The "Alt + SysRq + r s e i u b" combination didn't work. It didn't do anything at all, just like "Ctrl + Alt + Backspace" or trying to invoke the task manager....
          Yesterday I did try the SysRq combination with the system running properly and it did work as expected.
          Does it follow that I reject all authority? Perish the thought! In the matter of boots, I defer to the authority of the bootmaker. <br /> -Mikhail Bakunin-, &quot;God and the State&quot;
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            #6
            Re: System Freeze: Kubuntu 8.04 AMD 64

            Did you discover anything in the log files? If not, I'd be starting to suspect the hardware - memory, maybe.
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              Re: System Freeze: Kubuntu 8.04 AMD 64

              There isn't anything in the log that (to my unknowing eyes) looks like an error report or warning... I attached the output of /var/log/Xorg.0.log to this post
              Attached Files
              Does it follow that I reject all authority? Perish the thought! In the matter of boots, I defer to the authority of the bootmaker. <br /> -Mikhail Bakunin-, &quot;God and the State&quot;
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                #8
                Re: System Freeze: Kubuntu 8.04 AMD 64

                Doesn't appear to be anything unusual in that log. Another potentially useful log is the "syslog" file in the same directory where you found the Xorg.0.log file.
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                  #9
                  Re: System Freeze: Kubuntu 8.04 AMD 64

                  Hey dibl, thanks for helping me out. Linuxers are a separate breed... or maybe, linuxers are humans are humans are meant to be, uh?

                  Anyway, here's the syslog attached. Again, my illiterate eyes see close to nothing, but this one seems more interesting, it has entries like
                  Aug 23 13:04:56 555 kernel: [35176.689263] audit(1219511096.321:3): type=1503 operation="inode_permission" requested_mask="::rw" denied_mask="::rw" name="/dev/tty" pid=19738 profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd" namespace="default"
                  Aug 23 13:11:06 555 kernel: [35361.332860] swap_dup: Bad swap file entry c0800000003cab10
                  Aug 23 13:11:06 555 kernel: [35361.332865] VM: killing process firefox
                  Aug 23 13:11:06 555 kernel: [35361.338961] swap_free: Bad swap file entry 40800000003cab20
                  Aug 23 13:11:06 555 kernel: [35361.338965] swap_free: Bad swap file entry c0800000003b81c0
                  Aug 23 13:11:06 555 kernel: [35361.338967] swap_free: Bad swap file entry 40800000003bb720
                  Aug 23 13:11:06 555 kernel: [35361.338969] swap_free: Bad swap file entry c0800000003cab10
                  Aug 23 13:17:01 555 /USR/SBIN/CRON[31524]: (root) CMD ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
                  Aug 23 13:19:24 555 kernel: [35611.270354] python[26092]: segfault at 10 rip 7fbe5565d071 rsp 7fff633fe7c8 error 4
                  Aug 23 13:21:52 555 kernel: [35681.926676] audit(1219512112.925:4): type=1503 operation="inode_permission" requested_mask="::rw" denied_mask="::rw" name="/dev/tty" pid=3852 profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd" namespace="default"
                  Aug 23 13:22:42 555 kernel: [35710.757943] audit(1219512162.697:5): type=1503 operation="inode_permission" requested_mask="::rw" denied_mask="::rw" name="/dev/tty" pid=4665 profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd" namespace="default"
                  Aug 23 13:39:39 555 kernel: [36283.493757] audit(1219513179.205:6): type=1503 operation="inode_permission" requested_mask="::rw" denied_mask="::rw" name="/dev/tty" pid=21258 profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd" namespace="default"
                  Of course I cannot make any sense of it, but it does say "error" and "failure" and "denied"... We (you) may have struck gold here...
                  Attached Files
                  Does it follow that I reject all authority? Perish the thought! In the matter of boots, I defer to the authority of the bootmaker. <br /> -Mikhail Bakunin-, &quot;God and the State&quot;
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                    #10
                    Re: System Freeze: Kubuntu 8.04 AMD 64

                    Linux users are probably somewhat a cross-section of their various cultures -- well, the educated part of their cultures, anyway. You find all personality types ...

                    I'm no system expert, by any means, but these errors look kinda bad. Inodes are "index nodes" on your filesystem -- you don't need any problems with them:

                    Originally posted by sabbathpriest
                    type=1503 operation="inode_permission" requested_mask="::rw" denied_mask="::rw" name="/dev/tty" pid=19738
                    Likewise, the swap space shouldn't even be used during bootup, so it's weird that you're getting those "Bad swap file entry" errors -- I think I'd be getting worried ....

                    Both inode errors and swap file errors could be coming from a failing hard drive, I think. If I were you, I'd figure out how to test the hard drive. I tested mine a year or so ago -- I'm a little fuzzy on the particulars, but I recall figuring out how to use "smartmontools" to get the SMART statistics off my drives. Google suggests that "bonnie+" and "Ultimate Boot CD" have hard drive testing capabilities as well.


                    EDIT: I just now reconstructed the process to check hard drive health:

                    1.
                    Code:
                    sudo apt-get install smartmontools
                    2. For my one IDE drive that always runs hot (51 degrees C):

                    Code:
                    dibl@ibex:~$ sudo smartctl -ia /dev/sde1         
smartctl version 5.38 [x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-8 Bruce Allen
Home page is [url]http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/[/url]               

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:  Maxtor DiamondMax 10 family (ATA/133 and SATA/150)
Device Model:  Maxtor 6L200P0                  
Serial Number:  L42WA14G                     
Firmware Version: BAH41G10                     
User Capacity:  203,928,109,056 bytes              
Device is:    In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] 
ATA Version is: 7                        
ATA Standard is: ATA/ATAPI-7 T13 1532D revision 0         
Local Time is:  Sun Aug 24 11:14:01 2008 EDT           
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.     
SMART support is: Enabled                     

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x02) Offline data collection activity
                    was completed without error.  
                    Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status:   ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
                    without error or no self-test has ever 
                    been run.               
Total time to complete Offline                         
data collection:        (1622) seconds.                
Offline data collection                            
capabilities:          (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.    
                    Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
                    Suspend Offline collection upon new    
                    command.                  
                    Offline surface scan supported.      
                    Self-test supported.            
                    No Conveyance Self-test supported.     
                    Selective Self-test supported.       
SMART capabilities:      (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering      
                    power-saving mode.             
                    Supports SMART auto save timer.      
Error logging capability:    (0x01) Error logging supported.          
                    General Purpose Logging supported.     
Short self-test routine                              
recommended polling time:    ( 2) minutes.                  
Extended self-test routine                             
recommended polling time:    ( 82) minutes.                  
SCT capabilities:       (0x0021) SCT Status supported.           
                    SCT Data Table supported.         

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: 
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME     FLAG  VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE   UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
 3 Spin_Up_Time      0x0027 206 204 063  Pre-fail Always   -   13557  
 4 Start_Stop_Count    0x0032 253 253 000  Old_age Always   -   619   
 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 253 253 063  Pre-fail Always   -   0    
 6 Read_Channel_Margin  0x0001 253 253 100  Pre-fail Offline   -   0    
 7 Seek_Error_Rate    0x000a 253 252 000  Old_age Always   -   0    
 8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0027 243 237 187  Pre-fail Always   -   48674  
 9 Power_On_Minutes    0x0032 223 223 000  Old_age Always   -   739h+39m 
 10 Spin_Retry_Count    0x002b 253 252 157  Pre-fail Always   -   0    
 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x002b 253 252 223  Pre-fail Always   -   0    
 12 Power_Cycle_Count   0x0032 252 252 000  Old_age Always   -   782   
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 253 253 000  Old_age Always   -   0    
193 Load_Cycle_Count    0x0032 253 253 000  Old_age Always   -   0    
194 Temperature_Celsius  0x0032 038 253 000  Old_age Always   -   43   
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x000a 253 252 000  Old_age Always   -   2783  
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0008 253 253 000  Old_age Offline   -   0    
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0008 253 253 000  Old_age Offline   -   0    
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0008 253 253 000  Old_age Offline   -   0    
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count  0x0008 199 199 000  Old_age Offline   -   0    
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x000a 253 252 000  Old_age Always   -   0    
201 Soft_Read_Error_Rate  0x000a 253 252 000  Old_age Always   -   12   
202 TA_Increase_Count   0x000a 253 252 000  Old_age Always   -   0
203 Run_Out_Cancel     0x000b 253 252 180  Pre-fail Always   -   0
204 Shock_Count_Write_Opern 0x000a 253 252 000  Old_age Always   -   0
205 Shock_Rate_Write_Opern 0x000a 253 252 000  Old_age Always   -   0
207 Spin_High_Current   0x002a 253 252 000  Old_age Always   -   0
208 Spin_Buzz       0x002a 253 252 000  Old_age Always   -   0
209 Offline_Seek_Performnce 0x0024 240 240 000  Old_age Offline   -   158
210 Unknown_Attribute   0x0032 253 252 000  Old_age Always   -   0
211 Unknown_Attribute   0x0032 253 252 000  Old_age Always   -   0
212 Unknown_Attribute   0x0032 253 252 000  Old_age Always   -   0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num Test_Description  Status         Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
# 1 Short offline   Completed without error   00%   7486    -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
 SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
  1    0    0 Not_testing
  2    0    0 Not_testing
  3    0    0 Not_testing
  4    0    0 Not_testing
  5    0    0 Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
 After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.
                    Note that there is a "short test" and a "long test" available. If you're worried about a hard drive showing early signs of trouble, you should probably run the long test:

                    Code:
                    sudo smartctl -t long /dev/sdxn
                    (where "x" and "n" are your device values )
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                      #11
                      Re: System Freeze: Kubuntu 8.04 AMD 64

                      What 'caught' my eye in your syslog:
                      Aug 23 13:11:06 555 kernel: [35361.332865] VM: killing process firefox
                      Do you have Firefox installed? What version, and is it the 64-bit? Can you relate your problem to Firefox, i.e., did the problem begin to present itself after Firefox was installed?
                      Windows no longer obstructs my view.
                      Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
                      "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes​
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                        #12
                        Re: System Freeze: Kubuntu 8.04 AMD 64

                        Hey guys,

                        dibl: I am running right now the Seagate SeaTools long test on the first drive, in the short tests both drive "Passed". After I'm done with those I will install and run the smartmontools and then I will post the result. I also tested the memory with UBCD, it passed.

                        Snowhog: If I'm not wrong that was me killing FF because it froze up playing a flash video. But I don't know if I am running FF 64bit... I'll check when I boot up the problem box, I would bet I have the 32 bit version.


                        Also, I dug around a bit before running the SeaTools test and I opened the .xsession-errors file. Oh dear. It's 84 pages. I'll attach it later with the next update. Anyway, I am beginning to think that I may have a problem with the Motherboard... It's old-ish and I have noticed odd behavior before the OS loads up. The HDDs, memory and graphic cards are all new.
                        Does it follow that I reject all authority? Perish the thought! In the matter of boots, I defer to the authority of the bootmaker. <br /> -Mikhail Bakunin-, &quot;God and the State&quot;
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                          #13
                          Re: System Freeze: Kubuntu 8.04 AMD 64

                          Originally posted by sabbathpriest

                          I am beginning to think that I may have a problem with the Motherboard... It's old-ish
                          Your issues do have that "hardware" look about them -- sudden hard freezes that don't re-start with Alt-SysRq RSEIUB generally come from the hardware. The old PSU may not be holding up the voltage to the motherboard, for example.
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                            #14
                            Re: System Freeze: Kubuntu 8.04 AMD 64

                            Here's the updated information:

                            The FF version I'm running it's the 64bit, this is from "About Mozilla Firefox"
                            Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008072820 Firefox/3.0.1
                            The smartmontools report for sda1
                            smartctl version 5.38 [x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-8 Bruce Allen
                            Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

                            === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
                            Model Family: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11
                            Device Model: ST3500320AS
                            Serial Number: 9QM0JDD6
                            Firmware Version: SD15
                            User Capacity: 500,107,862,016 bytes
                            Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
                            ATA Version is: 8
                            ATA Standard is: ATA-8-ACS revision 4
                            Local Time is: Sun Aug 24 17:55:47 2008 EDT
                            SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
                            SMART support is: Enabled

                            === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
                            SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

                            General SMART Values:
                            Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity
                            was completed without error.
                            Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
                            Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
                            without error or no self-test has ever
                            been run.
                            Total time to complete Offline
                            data collection: ( 634) seconds.
                            Offline data collection
                            capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                            Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
                            Suspend Offline collection upon new
                            command.
                            Offline surface scan supported.
                            Self-test supported.
                            Conveyance Self-test supported.
                            Selective Self-test supported.
                            SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
                            power-saving mode.
                            Supports SMART auto save timer.
                            Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
                            General Purpose Logging supported.
                            Short self-test routine
                            recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
                            Extended self-test routine
                            recommended polling time: ( 114) minutes.
                            Conveyance self-test routine
                            recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
                            SCT capabilities: (0x103b) SCT Status supported.
                            SCT Feature Control supported.
                            SCT Data Table supported.

                            SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
                            Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
                            ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
                            1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 116 100 006 Pre-fail Always - 115354088
                            3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 094 094 000 Pre-fail Always - 0
                            4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 50
                            5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 036 Pre-fail Always - 0
                            7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 069 060 030 Pre-fail Always - 7410592
                            9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 931
                            10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always - 0
                            12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 50
                            184 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 099 Old_age Always - 0
                            187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
                            188 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 096 000 Old_age Always - 8590065821
                            189 High_Fly_Writes 0x003a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
                            190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 056 053 045 Old_age Always - 44 (Lifetime Min/Max 26/47)
                            194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 044 047 000 Old_age Always - 44 (0 23 0 0)
                            195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 057 035 000 Old_age Always - 115354088
                            197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
                            198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
                            199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0

                            SMART Error Log Version: 1
                            No Errors Logged

                            SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
                            Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
                            # 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 926 -

                            SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
                            SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
                            1 0 0 Not_testing
                            2 0 0 Not_testing
                            3 0 0 Not_testing
                            4 0 0 Not_testing
                            5 0 0 Not_testing
                            Selective self-test flags (0x0):
                            After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
                            If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.
                            And the smartmontools report for sdb2
                            smartctl version 5.38 [x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-8 Bruce Allen
                            Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

                            === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
                            Model Family: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11
                            Device Model: ST3500320AS
                            Serial Number: 5QM11P5G
                            Firmware Version: SD15
                            User Capacity: 500,107,862,016 bytes
                            Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
                            ATA Version is: 8
                            ATA Standard is: ATA-8-ACS revision 4
                            Local Time is: Sun Aug 24 17:59:48 2008 EDT
                            SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
                            SMART support is: Enabled

                            === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
                            SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

                            General SMART Values:
                            Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity
                            was completed without error.
                            Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
                            Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
                            without error or no self-test has ever
                            been run.
                            Total time to complete Offline
                            data collection: ( 634) seconds.
                            Offline data collection
                            capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                            Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
                            Suspend Offline collection upon new
                            command.
                            Offline surface scan supported.
                            Self-test supported.
                            Conveyance Self-test supported.
                            Selective Self-test supported.
                            SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
                            power-saving mode.
                            Supports SMART auto save timer.
                            Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
                            General Purpose Logging supported.
                            Short self-test routine
                            recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
                            Extended self-test routine
                            recommended polling time: ( 116) minutes.
                            Conveyance self-test routine
                            recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
                            SCT capabilities: (0x103b) SCT Status supported.
                            SCT Feature Control supported.
                            SCT Data Table supported.

                            SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
                            Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
                            ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
                            1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 117 100 006 Pre-fail Always - 145049384
                            3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 094 094 000 Pre-fail Always - 0
                            4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 50
                            5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 036 Pre-fail Always - 0
                            7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 064 060 030 Pre-fail Always - 3101866
                            9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 931
                            10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always - 0
                            12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 50
                            184 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 099 Old_age Always - 0
                            187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
                            188 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
                            189 High_Fly_Writes 0x003a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
                            190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 059 056 045 Old_age Always - 41 (Lifetime Min/Max 25/44)
                            194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 041 044 000 Old_age Always - 41 (0 22 0 0)
                            195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 051 028 000 Old_age Always - 145049384
                            197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
                            198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
                            199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0

                            SMART Error Log Version: 1
                            No Errors Logged

                            SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
                            Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
                            # 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 926 -

                            SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
                            SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
                            1 0 0 Not_testing
                            2 0 0 Not_testing
                            3 0 0 Not_testing
                            4 0 0 Not_testing
                            5 0 0 Not_testing
                            Selective self-test flags (0x0):
                            After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
                            If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.
                            Does it follow that I reject all authority? Perish the thought! In the matter of boots, I defer to the authority of the bootmaker. <br /> -Mikhail Bakunin-, &quot;God and the State&quot;
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                              Re: System Freeze: Kubuntu 8.04 AMD 64

                              Although I tend to agree with dibl and the others, that it may be a hardware issue, I'm curious to know if this lockup occurs when firefox is running. I'm watching some weird lockups occur with certain web pages. Complete system lockup. I'll try that 'unlock method next time it happens just to see if it makes a difference.

                              UPDATE:

                              Tried the 'skinny Elephant' graceful shutdown this morning when the laptop froze (on dialup and firefox) - - - and it didn't work. Same thing last night. Guess it's time to get Opera on board and see if it's a firefox thing.

                              UPDATE #2

                              I tried something different. I rebooted (cold start) opened a console and kept repeating dmesg while connecting via dialup modem, started firefox, and went to Opera.com for their download. It of course detected Linux, and Ubuntu 8.04. While it attempted to start download, and just before freeze, I saw new entries in dmesg that appear to be related to the hsf modem and stack errors, but since it froze, I can't do anything with these error messages. I wasn't having any issues once I got the modem to work, but in my attempts to get wireless up and running, I udpated the HAL items via adept.

                              Everything for me seems to go back to HAL being my major obstacle.
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