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    Upgrade Strategies?

    What are your strategies on updates? I am running Hardy and have taken most of the updates that show up in the Adept Notifier. As often as not, those have gotten me in trouble by breaking things but they also seem overall to have provided a smoother running package. I tend to be a compulsive updater and would like to hear from the more experienced folks here what a more reasonable update strategy might be. What do you do on your own systems?
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    just an opinion, personal experience ...

    I wait. Last time it was some 75+ updates behind the red triangle updater icon (I believe that was 180 MB?). Right now, it's 17 updated packages available. If everything is working fine, I'm in no hurry to get the updates. Cutting to the quick here: I wait one or two weeks (or even longer) to take updates, even when they look tempting (e,g,, pertaining to my Intel 915GAVL board, or things like that).
    I've never had problems getting the updates or after they were downloaded and installed.

    An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski
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      Re: Upgrade Strategies?

      My approach is exactly the opposite of Mike's. I ALWAYS get updates within twenty-four hours of their availability. Many of these updates fix known security flaws. Most others, fix bugs. Occasionally, an update will be held back pending an update to another package. Even less frequently, an update will break something, (in my experience, usually the sound system), but this is rare. I used to follow a policy of updating once a week but the Adept updater in recent versions of Kubuntu has made daily updates trivially easy.

      I would suspect that if you are experiencing frequent breakage, you are probably running KDE4. KDE4.0 is explicitly not ready. That's what the ".0" means. KDE 4.1 is in beta which is another way of stating that it is not ready. In both cases, you are being warned to expect breakage.
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        re: askrieger's post ...
        I had forgotten about the high ratio of security updates. Good point.
        I think I'll modify my approach here and take the updates. Actually, I used to do so, but then backed off thinking it might be best to allow a week or so for bugs to be worked out (although I never had a problem). So, rbrown3rd, not having security updates would be a flaw in my Reply #1 above.

        An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski
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          I run 4.1 and always upgrade whenever something is available. The reason being that since it's a beta (or release candidate now) every update is likely to fix something that is currently messed up. Updates are unlikely to make things worse at all.

          To me, updates are a time for optimism. I'm already existing fine with the quirks and missing parts of kde 4, and each update tends to patch those holes a few at a time.
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            Re: Upgrade Strategies?

            i always install updates immediately. But I don't switch on unsupported updates in the repositories.
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              I don't use the Adept notifier. I update from the CLI. I run it every day. I have been doing so for years. Lots faster than opening Adept or Synaptic. Very rarely have a problem.

              Code:
              sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
              I have all of the repositories enabled, plus medibuntu.
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                Originally posted by Detonate
                I don't use the Adept notifier. I update from the CLI. I run it every day. I have been doing so for years. Lots faster than opening Adept or Synaptic. Very rarely have a problem.

                Code:
                sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
                I have all of the repositories enabled, plus medibuntu.
                That is an interesting approach to take. Thanks to all for your feedback on this. I am pretty new at using Kubuntu on all of my systems and I am trying to gain a perspective based on your experience. I will try that CLI approach. What does the safe-upgrade parameter do exactly? I can guess from the words but maybe you could expand on the parameters in the command for my benefit? Thanks again to all. This has been very informative for this new user.
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                  #9
                  Re: Upgrade Strategies?

                  See:

                  Code:
                  man aptitude
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                    Originally posted by Detonate
                    See:

                    Code:
                    man aptitude
                    Thanks. I will do that. I had completely forgotten about man. How could that happen? LOL.
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