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    Hi snowhog:Triple booting Hardy, Gutsy and Feisty--how is it done cleanly?

    Hi snowhog,
    I am dual booting Gutsy and Hardy,
    Gutsy was first installed then Hardy which of course installed its own grub by default with the installer.

    Now Gutsy loads, but wants a root login to do maintenance, which it cannot achieve.
    It requires a ctrl-D to boot the system, which is all less than ideal.
    Any clues how to fix all this to cleanly boot 2 systems, let alone boot 3.
    Best and Thanx in advance
    El Zorro
    It should be as simple as it can be, but not simpler than it should be---Albert Einstein
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    Re: Hi snowhog:Triple booting Hardy, Gutsy and Feisty--how is it done cleanly?

    I know this is hardly a helpful response but is there any reason why you particularly want to have all three?
    Also you should have no problem running all three. I have run two before for a short while(7.10 & 8.04) using 2 different root partitions and sharing /home.
    What do you mean by wants a root login to do mainanence?
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      Re: Hi snowhog:Triple booting Hardy, Gutsy and Feisty--how is it done cleanly?

      Hi marshallbanana,
      thanx for replying,
      Indeed I only want 2 gutsy and Hardy, not three unless another Linux OS such as Debian Lenny.

      However as I said in my post, the hardy installer makes a mess, and on booting gutsy it starts normally, but then goes into a paroxysm, wanting a terminal root login to do maintenance which fails if you do try it or a CTR-D to proceed to the GUI login without maintenance.

      This is using 2x root partitions no home and a common swap. Maybe the default installer grub installation is OK for an MS (XP or Vista ) partition, but gutsy gets upset by it, and perhaps any other Linux distro would too.

      Maybe it did not require another grub installation, but how do you stop the installer doing it by default, and how to clean up the boot loader after this "fait accompli"
      I was just wondering how to clean up this grub mess I now have.
      Hope I have made the post clearer.
      Cheers
      El Zorro

      Originally posted by marshallbanana
      I know this is hardly a helpful response but is there any reason why you particularly want to have all three?
      Also you should have no problem running all three. I have run two before for a short while(7.10 & 8.04) using 2 different root partitions and sharing /home.
      What do you mean by wants a root login to do maintenance?
      It should be as simple as it can be, but not simpler than it should be---Albert Einstein
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        Re: Hi snowhog:Triple booting Hardy, Gutsy and Feisty--how is it done cleanly?

        Boot. Open a console. Type:
        Code:
        sudo fdisk -l && cat /etc/fstab && cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
        Copy/paste in your reply. This will permit a review of how your HD(s) are configured (fdisk -l), what your fstab file looks like, and how your menu.lst is configured.
        Windows no longer obstructs my view.
        Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
        "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes​
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          Re: Hi snowhog:Triple booting Hardy, Gutsy and Feisty--how is it done cleanly?

          Thanx snowhog,
          here it is, looks a bit of a dog's breakfast though.
          This is looking from inside the gutsy install.
          Best
          El Zorro

          lst
          [sudo] password for elzorro:

          Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
          255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
          Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
          Disk identifier: 0x00077fc0

          Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
          /dev/sda1 1 6390 51327643+ 83 Linux
          /dev/sda2 * 6391 12892 52227315 83 Linux
          /dev/sda3 12893 19266 51199155 83 Linux
          /dev/sda4 19267 19457 1534207+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris
          # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
          #
          # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
          proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
          # /dev/hda1
          UUID=dd74ec19-15cb-4972-ba26-2f1fc5b2e09e / reiserfs notail 0 1
          # /dev/hda2
          UUID=47ad584c-63a3-48e4-9cde-6327d51fba2b /media/hda2 reiserfs defaults 0 2
          # /dev/hda3
          UUID=25bfe305-798d-46d4-a880-f39937e3ce52 /media/hda3 reiserfs defaults 0 2
          # /dev/hda4
          UUID=d366bc92-0911-4ad9-8c83-7228d8f77ee6 none swap sw 0 0
          /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
          /dev/hdd /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
          /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0

          /tmp/app/1/image /tmp/app/1 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0
          /tmp/app/2/image /tmp/app/2 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0
          /tmp/app/3/image /tmp/app/3 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0
          /tmp/app/4/image /tmp/app/4 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0
          /tmp/app/5/image /tmp/app/5 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0
          /tmp/app/6/image /tmp/app/6 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0
          /tmp/app/7/image /tmp/app/7 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0

          # menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8)
          # grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8),
          # grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub
          # and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/.

          ## default num
          # Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0, and
          # the entry number 0 is the default if the command is not used.
          #
          # You can specify 'saved' instead of a number. In this case, the default entry
          # is the entry saved with the command 'savedefault'.
          # WARNING: If you are using dmraid do not change this entry to 'saved' or your
          # array will desync and will not let you boot your system.
          default 0

          ## timeout sec
          # Set a timeout, in SEC seconds, before automatically booting the default entry
          # (normally the first entry defined).
          timeout 3

          ## hiddenmenu
          # Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu)
          hiddenmenu

          # Pretty colours
          #color cyan/blue white/blue

          ## password ['--md5'] passwd
          # If used in the first section of a menu file, disable all interactive editing
          # control (menu entry editor and command-line) and entries protected by the
          # command 'lock'
          # e.g. password topsecret
          # password --md5 $1$gLhU0/$aW78kHK1QfV3P2b2znUoe/
          # password topsecret

          #
          # examples
          #
          # title Windows 95/98/NT/2000
          # root (hd0,0)
          # makeactive
          # chainloader +1
          #
          # title Linux
          # root (hd0,1)
          # kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro
          #

          #
          # Put static boot stanzas before and/or after AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST

          ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
          ## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified
          ## by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below

          ## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs

          ## ## Start Default Options ##
          ## default kernel options
          ## default kernel options for automagic boot options
          ## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z
          ## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted.
          ## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro
          ## kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro
          ## kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro
          # kopt=root=UUID=dd74ec19-15cb-4972-ba26-2f1fc5b2e09e ro

          ## Setup crashdump menu entries
          ## e.g. crashdump=1
          # crashdump=0

          ## default grub root device
          ## e.g. groot=(hd0,0)
          # groot=(hd0,0)

          ## should update-grub create alternative automagic boot options
          ## e.g. alternative=true
          ## alternative=false
          # alternative=true

          ## should update-grub lock alternative automagic boot options
          ## e.g. lockalternative=true
          ## lockalternative=false
          # lockalternative=false

          ## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the
          ## alternatives
          ## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
          # defoptions=quiet splash

          ## should update-grub lock old automagic boot options
          ## e.g. lockold=false
          ## lockold=true
          # lockold=false

          ## Xen hypervisor options to use with the default Xen boot option
          # xenhopt=

          ## Xen Linux kernel options to use with the default Xen boot option
          # xenkopt=console=tty0

          ## altoption boot targets option
          ## multiple altoptions lines are allowed
          ## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options
          ## altoptions=(recovery) single
          # altoptions=(recovery mode) single

          ## controls how many kernels should be put into the menu.lst
          ## only counts the first occurence of a kernel, not the
          ## alternative kernel options
          ## e.g. howmany=all
          ## howmany=7
          # howmany=all

          ## should update-grub create memtest86 boot option
          ## e.g. memtest86=true
          ## memtest86=false
          # memtest86=true

          ## should update-grub adjust the value of the default booted system
          ## can be true or false
          # updatedefaultentry=false

          ## should update-grub add savedefault to the default options
          ## can be true or false
          # savedefault=false

          ## ## End Default Options ##

          title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
          root (hd0,0)
          kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=dd74ec19-15cb-4972-ba26-2f1fc5b2e09e ro quiet splash
          initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
          quiet

          title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode)
          root (hd0,0)
          kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=dd74ec19-15cb-4972-ba26-2f1fc5b2e09e ro single
          initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic

          title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-12-generic
          root (hd0,0)
          kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-12-generic root=UUID=dd74ec19-15cb-4972-ba26-2f1fc5b2e09e ro quiet splash
          initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-12-generic
          quiet

          title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-12-generic (recovery mode)
          root (hd0,0)
          kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-12-generic root=UUID=dd74ec19-15cb-4972-ba26-2f1fc5b2e09e ro single
          initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-12-generic

          title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-10-generic
          root (hd0,0)
          kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-10-generic root=UUID=dd74ec19-15cb-4972-ba26-2f1fc5b2e09e ro quiet splash
          initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-10-generic
          quiet

          title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-10-generic (recovery mode)
          root (hd0,0)
          kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-10-generic root=UUID=dd74ec19-15cb-4972-ba26-2f1fc5b2e09e ro single
          initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-10-generic

          title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-9-generic
          root (hd0,0)
          kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-9-generic root=UUID=dd74ec19-15cb-4972-ba26-2f1fc5b2e09e ro quiet splash
          initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-9-generic
          quiet

          title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-9-generic (recovery mode)
          root (hd0,0)
          kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-9-generic root=UUID=dd74ec19-15cb-4972-ba26-2f1fc5b2e09e ro single
          initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-9-generic

          title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-8-generic
          root (hd0,0)
          kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-8-generic root=UUID=dd74ec19-15cb-4972-ba26-2f1fc5b2e09e ro quiet splash
          initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-8-generic
          quiet

          title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-8-generic (recovery mode)
          root (hd0,0)
          kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-8-generic root=UUID=dd74ec19-15cb-4972-ba26-2f1fc5b2e09e ro single
          initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-8-generic

          title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-7-generic
          root (hd0,0)
          kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-7-generic root=UUID=dd74ec19-15cb-4972-ba26-2f1fc5b2e09e ro quiet splash
          initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-7-generic
          quiet

          title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-7-generic (recovery mode)
          root (hd0,0)
          kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-7-generic root=UUID=dd74ec19-15cb-4972-ba26-2f1fc5b2e09e ro single
          initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-7-generic

          title Ubuntu 7.10, memtest86+
          root (hd0,0)
          kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin
          quiet

          ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
          elzorro@zog-desktop:~$












          Originally posted by Snowhog
          Boot. Open a console. Type:
          Code:
          sudo fdisk -l && cat /etc/fstab && cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
          Copy/paste in your reply. This will permit a review of how your HD(s) are configured (fdisk -l), what your fstab file looks like, and how your menu.lst is configured.
          It should be as simple as it can be, but not simpler than it should be---Albert Einstein
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            Re: Hi snowhog:Triple booting Hardy, Gutsy and Feisty--how is it done cleanly?

            Sorry for the delay. Spent the morning removeing Feisty, installing Hardy remix w/KDE 4 and getting it setup. Got my DVD working first thing. Sound works without having to apply the acpi=off kernel option. Nice. Got Compiz installed and configured. Sweet. So far, so good.

            An observation about your /boot/grub/menu.lst:
            1) If you want to see the other kernels for selection during boot, you need to comment (add a #) in front of hiddenmenu
            2) If you want time to choose a kernel to boot from, increase timeout to a greater value than you have (3). I use 60

            As to your /etc/fstab file:
            /tmp/app/1/image /tmp/app/1 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0
            /tmp/app/2/image /tmp/app/2 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0
            /tmp/app/3/image /tmp/app/3 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0
            /tmp/app/4/image /tmp/app/4 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0
            /tmp/app/5/image /tmp/app/5 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0
            /tmp/app/6/image /tmp/app/6 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0
            /tmp/app/7/image /tmp/app/7 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0
            What are all these doing there?

            This information is from a running Gutsy OS. Based on the output of fdisk -l and your fstab file, I don't see where you have another OS installed on your HD.
            Windows no longer obstructs my view.
            Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
            "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes​
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              Re: Hi snowhog:Triple booting Hardy, Gutsy and Feisty--how is it done cleanly?

              Haven't reviewed how you guys are setting up the dual/triple boot, just a small detail:

              Re timeout values (the last post):
              As soon as you see the boot menu (with hiddenmenu uncommented), and then as soon as you touch an Up/Down Arrow key (or possibly any key), the timer (for the timeout) stops.
              After which you have until the sun burns out to select an OS to boot into.
              An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski
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