Can't edit Hard disks and file systems

[Predtech]

Hi guys, i have tried the latest RLC of 8.04 KDE 4 Kubuntu. I found that just like the previous release of 8.04 there is no way for me to do admin work on the NTFS drives i have. Like in 7.10 that i run right now, i can go to system settings then advanced and then Disk and Filesystems and view all HDD's and filesystems, and can mount and unmount to my hearts content. In the new version there seems to be nothing like this and i have a NTFS drive that i need to mount manually because it doesn't get mounted automatically, but that i have no problem with.

Also the other problem i seen was there seems to be no volume control in the system tray like in 7.10.

Can anybody share any light on these issues for me please??

thanks

Predtech

[leodp]

Re: Can't edit Hard disks and file systems

Hi Predtech,

I have the same issue with a manually formatted ext3 partition that was not possible to create during installation (gave errors).
I can manually mount it, but to use it as /home I would like to have it cleanly mounted at boot time.

Leo

[Fintan]

Re: Can't edit Hard disks and file systems

According to this:
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyHeron/RC/Kubuntu

and this:
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/WriteSupportForNTFS

ntfs is supported.

I don't know and cannot test this because I don't have any ntfs partitions anymore

As for volume control. Try starting kmix (kmenu->multimedia->kmix) once and then logging back in again. It should be there.

@leo and predtech can you post your fstabs?
That would help others help you

[Bongo5HH]

Re: Can't edit Hard disks and file systems

I had to add my NTFS (and my ext3 drive) manually to my /etc/fstab using the UUID

http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3092976.0

there is a similar solution for mounting an NTFS drive. Will look for it.

[Predtech]

Re: Can't edit Hard disks and file systems

Ok, after reading the other post and googling how to find a UUID, i booted into the live cd again, and edited the fstab in Konsole and added the drive by it's UUID and then restarted the X server, and it was mounted and listed.

I am currently still running 7.10 but i think i'll be upgrading in 3 days when the full release comes out properly.

Thanks for the help guys

[leodp]

Re: Can't edit Hard disks and file systems

Dear Fintan,

I am at work now, I can post the fstab this evening.
I have 4 partitions on my HDD, one free for a possible second OS, one with /, one that should host /home and the swap.
In fstab the entry for the home is missing.
By the way, the HDD is not mapped as usual on /dev/hda, but this time it is on /dev/sda.
It is true that I can enter the relative line, with the UUID, but I was looking to do it with the tools provided by the distro.
I have always compiled myself modules/kernel(s) myself many times, tweaked WLAN settings to have WPA cryptography, and normally done the regular admin stuff via command line.

But this time I thought: Ok, here is a distro that wants to be easy to use. Let's act as a noob.
Sadly:
- Standard kernel would not boot: I had to remove SAA7135 TV card (problems with HW driver leading to freeze).
- Manual HDD partitioning would not work (/home dir could not be correctly formatted), and there is no HDD admin tool in systemsettings (I used fdisk after installation).
- Second monitor config is completely crappy (with or without desktop effects/compiz), and leads to freeze after resolution change (ATI9600 card, propr. drivers, I guess I have to do a manual install of drivers), mplayer video output does not work (have to set manually -vo gl2).
- systemsettings lacks "Administrator" entry averywhere, I have to sudo [path_to]/systemsettings do do admin work with it.
- KDE4 interface keeps loosing all the widgets (or plasmoids, or whatever they are named) I add at desktop/task bar
- And so it goes on.

I will wait for some time still, and see how the official release works.
Then if everything stays like that I will admin myself all this problems, thinking that linux is not yet ready for the desktop on my HW. :P
Wait a moment, it is not my intention to flame.
But think one second: what would you answer to my father when he asks if Linux is easy to install (for a longtime XP-only user)?
I immediately think I do not have enough time to take care of one more PC.

Ciao, Leo

[leodp]

Re: Can't edit Hard disks and file systems

Sorry for the shot, I was victim of my own dismay
Back to my HDD.

1) The main problem was that the installation partitioning had created a partition with errors. I corrected it (by answering yes to all the questions):
fsck.ext3 /dev/sda3

2) Got the UUID of the HDD partition:
sudo vol_id -u /dev/sda3

3) Added the entry on /etc/fstab (editing it as root with any text editor):
# /dev/sda3
UUID=722efe82-ed4b-438f-a58d-c57409603eea /home ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1

Then I moved all files (hidden and links too) of the previous /home to the new partition created to host the home directories. If something goes wrong during this operation it may be that the users home directories are not correctly found or mounted at boot and you may have to repair the thing without a graphic session.

Ciao, Leo

[IndyTim]

Re: Can't edit Hard disks and file systems

I'm mounting a NTFS partition on my 2nd hard drive at boot. Here's the protocol I'm using in my fstab:

# /dev/sdb1
UUID=my-uuid-number-string /media/F-Drive ntfs  defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0    1

As always, make a backup copy of your /etc/fstab before editing.

IndyTim