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    Home network setup - XP main box, Kubuntu backup box

    My main PC is a an XP box containing all my pictures, music, movies and documents. I have a second computer which also had XP on it connected through my home network so that I can view / edit all those files. I want to do the same thing on the second (now my Kubuntu box) PC. Kubuntu sees my home network, but when I click on it the network folder is empty. As you can probably tell, I am a complete newbie. I have done some basic searches of both the (K)ubuntu forums and most of the stuff is pretty far over my head.

    edit: I should mention I'm using 8.10.

    Thanks in advance!
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    Re: Home network setup - XP main box, Kubuntu backup box

    hmmmm......

    What is the IP address of both boxes (XP & Kubuntu)...have you tried 'ping'ing the XP box from Kubuntu? Also, while I don't think it should matter, is the firewall on in the XP box? Last question....or more of a point of clarification...you are sharing folders from within the XP box, correct?

    mm0
    Dell Inspiron 1720 Laptop<br />Intel T9300 Core2Duo Processor @ 2.5Ghz<br />4 GB Ram | 1920 X 1200 Resolution<br />2 X 160 GB SATA HD Internal<br />Nvidia GeForce 8600M Graphics Adapter<br />Using Kubuntu 9.10
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      Re: Home network setup - XP main box, Kubuntu backup box

      Originally posted by muzicman0
      hmmmm......

      What is the IP address of both boxes (XP & Kubuntu)...have you tried 'ping'ing the XP box from Kubuntu? Also, while I don't think it should matter, is the firewall on in the XP box? Last question....or more of a point of clarification...you are sharing folders from within the XP box, correct?

      mm0
      D) I do have the intended folder shared on my XP box. C) The firewall on the XP box is on although File and Printer sharing is allowed as an exception.

      A) how do i find the P addresses of each box? B) No I have not. How do I do that?
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        Re: Home network setup - XP main box, Kubuntu backup box

        OK, to find the ip on the XP box, go to the cmd prompt (Start|Run - and enter 'cmd') and type 'ipconfig' without the quotes at the command prompt.

        In Linux, enter 'ifconfig' in terminal. It is a bit harder to sort through the info ifconfig gives, but not too hard...

        Most likely both boxes' IP address will be 192.168.x.x, once you have the ip's, you can enter in the cmd prompt, or terminal 'ping ipaddress'...post back here what the results are.

        mm0
        Dell Inspiron 1720 Laptop<br />Intel T9300 Core2Duo Processor @ 2.5Ghz<br />4 GB Ram | 1920 X 1200 Resolution<br />2 X 160 GB SATA HD Internal<br />Nvidia GeForce 8600M Graphics Adapter<br />Using Kubuntu 9.10
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          Re: Home network setup - XP main box, Kubuntu backup box

          Originally posted by muzicman0
          OK, to find the ip on the XP box, go to the cmd prompt (Start|Run - and enter 'cmd') and type 'ipconfig' without the quotes at the command prompt.

          In Linux, enter 'ifconfig' in terminal. It is a bit harder to sort through the info ifconfig gives, but not too hard...

          Most likely both boxes' IP address will be 192.168.x.x, once you have the ip's, you can enter in the cmd prompt, or terminal 'ping ipaddress'...post back here what the results are.

          mm0
          From Windows, I get:

          Windows IP Configuration


          Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:


          Pinging 192.168.1.101 with 32 bytes of data:

          Reply from 192.168.1.101: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
          Reply from 192.168.1.101: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
          Reply from 192.168.1.101: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
          Reply from 192.168.1.101: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

          Ping statistics for 192.168.1.101:
          Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
          Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
          Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

          From Kubuntu, I get something similar except it just keeps repeating indefinitely:

          xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-desktop:~$ ping 192.168.1.100
          PING 192.168.1.100 (192.168.1.100) 56(84) bytes of data.
          64 bytes from 192.168.1.100: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 time=0.123 ms
          64 bytes from 192.168.1.100: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128 time=0.122 ms
          64 bytes from 192.168.1.100: icmp_seq=3 ttl=128 time=0.112 ms
          64 bytes from 192.168.1.100: icmp_seq=4 ttl=128 time=0.125 ms
          64 bytes from 192.168.1.100: icmp_seq=5 ttl=128 time=0.113 ms
          64 bytes from 192.168.1.100: icmp_seq=6 ttl=128 time=0.115 ms
          64 bytes from 192.168.1.100: icmp_seq=7 ttl=128 time=0.123 ms
          64 bytes from 192.168.1.100: icmp_seq=8 ttl=128 time=0.105 ms
          64 bytes from 192.168.1.100: icmp_seq=9 ttl=128 time=0.322 ms
          64 bytes from 192.168.1.100: icmp_seq=10 ttl=128 time=0.101 ms
          64 bytes from 192.168.1.100: icmp_seq=11 ttl=128 time=0.115 ms
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            Re: Home network setup - XP main box, Kubuntu backup box

            OK, so now we know that they are on the same subnet 192.168.1.0, and that they can see each other (basically a ping is one computer saying 'Are you there?' and the other computer responding 'Yes I am!'.

            To do more troubleshooting with you, I will need to be sitting at my laptop, to see what the screens look like, I don't remember off the top of my head...maybe someone else can chime in before I have a chance to look...

            I will try to get something back to you tonight, but I have a Halloween activity with my kids tonight, so it may be tomorrow before I can get back to this...

            have you tried entering the disk info manually (I think the format is smb:/xp name/share name), for instance, my XP media server is named 'MrLuntz', and I have a shared drive named 'Steve', so to manually enter the info, it is 'smb:/mrluntz/steve', but don't quote me on that!)

            mm0
            Dell Inspiron 1720 Laptop<br />Intel T9300 Core2Duo Processor @ 2.5Ghz<br />4 GB Ram | 1920 X 1200 Resolution<br />2 X 160 GB SATA HD Internal<br />Nvidia GeForce 8600M Graphics Adapter<br />Using Kubuntu 9.10
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              Re: Home network setup - XP main box, Kubuntu backup box

              So this is how I access my drives...just to make sure you are doing the same...

              1) In dolphin, click 'Network' in the left column.
              2) Click add network folder
              3) Choose Microsoft Windows Drive
              4) Enter name of folder...this is local to the Kubuntu box, and used only for reference...enter anything you like here
              5) Enter name of XP box in the Server field (for me, 'mrluntz')...I think you can also enter IP, but the IP may change, unless you are using static...we can try that later if the name doesn't work...
              6) Enter name of shared folder on the xp box. make sure it is the share name, which is not necesarily the same as the folder name (but might be).

              then click save and connect.

              let me know if that works...

              mm0
              Dell Inspiron 1720 Laptop<br />Intel T9300 Core2Duo Processor @ 2.5Ghz<br />4 GB Ram | 1920 X 1200 Resolution<br />2 X 160 GB SATA HD Internal<br />Nvidia GeForce 8600M Graphics Adapter<br />Using Kubuntu 9.10
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                Re: Home network setup - XP main box, Kubuntu backup box

                Just FYI I am on 8.10 also but up until today I didn't notice the 8.10 section of the boards. I assume your suggestion holds true for 8.10...will try it out when I get home from work. Thanks for your help so far.
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                  Re: Home network setup - XP main box, Kubuntu backup box

                  Originally posted by Tanatz
                  My main PC is a an XP box containing all my pictures, music, movies and documents. I have a second computer which also had XP on it connected through my home network so that I can view / edit all those files. I want to do the same thing on the second (now my Kubuntu box) PC. Kubuntu sees my home network, but when I click on it the network folder is empty. As you can probably tell, I am a complete newbie. I have done some basic searches of both the (K)ubuntu forums and most of the stuff is pretty far over my head.

                  edit: I should mention I'm using 8.10.

                  Thanks in advance!
                  Just to ask the obvious - are you sure you have the same workgroup name? Kubuntu defaults to mshome. It has been some time since I installed XP - so I may mix with W2000, where the default is workgroup.

                  If you have different workgroup names, what you describe is what will happen.
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                    Re: Home network setup - XP main box, Kubuntu backup box

                    I'm on different workgroups, and I have no problems...
                    Dell Inspiron 1720 Laptop<br />Intel T9300 Core2Duo Processor @ 2.5Ghz<br />4 GB Ram | 1920 X 1200 Resolution<br />2 X 160 GB SATA HD Internal<br />Nvidia GeForce 8600M Graphics Adapter<br />Using Kubuntu 9.10
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                      Re: Home network setup - XP main box, Kubuntu backup box

                      What mm suggested worked for me. Thanks!

                      edit: Now that I'm up and running, how do I get Amarok to detect all my music files on my Windows box? I'm trying to point it to the network folder but I can only seem to get it to point to local folders.
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                        Re: Home network setup - XP main box, Kubuntu backup box

                        glad you got it sorted!

                        On the Amarok question...the only easy way that I have found is to mount your network folders in an autostart script to a folder in your home directory, then you can map Amarok to those...check out:

                        http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3083442.0

                        for help on that...it is for 7.04, but I think it should still work...

                        mm0
                        Dell Inspiron 1720 Laptop<br />Intel T9300 Core2Duo Processor @ 2.5Ghz<br />4 GB Ram | 1920 X 1200 Resolution<br />2 X 160 GB SATA HD Internal<br />Nvidia GeForce 8600M Graphics Adapter<br />Using Kubuntu 9.10
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