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    Kaffeine and other aspect ratio problems

    After installing the mediubuntu files for playing DVD + some codecs, Kaffeine play videos in the 1:1 format, be it they are 4:3 or 16:9.
    It's not always right in VLC player either, but not so bad, and easier to fix. .flv seems better than .wmw in VLC.

    Some searches has given me ideas regarding settings in the /etc/X11 xorg.conf file that I don't find. And, as this problem was aggravated after the installation of codecs and things, it seems to be more software.

    Any ideas?
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    Re: Kaffeine and other aspect ratio problems

    Are you saying, that your system display settings changed 'after' you installed the medibuntu codecs needed to play commercial DVDs and ran Kaffeine?
    Windows no longer obstructs my view.
    Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
    "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes​
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      #3
      Re: Kaffeine and other aspect ratio problems

      We may gain some insight into what might be going on by looking at your current /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and the first backup of it - /etc/X11/xorg.conf.1

      If you will copy/paste each we can see what, if any, changes exist between them.
      Windows no longer obstructs my view.
      Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
      "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes​
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        #4
        Re: Kaffeine and other aspect ratio problems

        Originally posted by Snowhog
        Are you saying, that your system display settings changed 'after' you installed the medibuntu codecs needed to play commercial DVDs and ran Kaffeine?
        Yes.
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          Re: Kaffeine and other aspect ratio problems

          NilsA sounds like a name from some familiar country.
          Aspect ratios can be set in kaffeine. I don't think this problem is related to xorg, but to pushing a button which is a hotkey in kaffeine.

          While playing, select "player" on the menu ("spiller").
          Then go to "video" > "aspect ratio" ("aspektforhold")
          You will see that there are 4 preset options. Quadratic is one of them, and it is mapped to F9 as a hotkey. I guess you pressed that sometime while running Kaffeine. Select "Automatic", that should work fine for most videos, but if there are problems you can go to this menu and override the settings.

          There is also an option under "View" ("vis") in the menu for maintaining aspect ratio while you resize the window. Alternatively it can be set to follow your resizing interactively.



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            #6
            Re: Kaffeine and other aspect ratio problems

            Good to know info. Thanks. I've never adjusted ratio settings in Kaffeine, so I've never experienced any problems with my system display settings. But I'll remember this.
            Windows no longer obstructs my view.
            Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
            "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes​
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              Re: Kaffeine and other aspect ratio problems

              Originally posted by Snowhog
              We may gain some insight into what might be going on by looking at your current /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and the first backup of it - /etc/X11/xorg.conf.1

              If you will copy/paste each we can see what, if any, changes exist between them.
              Relevant part of .1

              Section "Device"
              Identifier "ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]"
              Driver "ati"
              BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
              EndSection

              Section "Monitor"
              Identifier "Generic Monitor"
              Option "DPMS"
              HorizSync 30-70
              VertRefresh 50-160
              EndSection

              Section "Screen"
              Identifier "Default Screen"
              Device "ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]"
              Monitor "Generic Monitor"
              DefaultDepth 24
              EndSection

              Section "ServerLayout"
              Identifier "Default Layout"
              Screen "Default Screen"
              InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
              InputDevice "Configured Mouse"

              # Uncomment if you have a wacom tablet
              # InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
              # InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
              # InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
              EndSection

              Now:

              Section "Device"
              Identifier "ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]"
              Boardname "ati"
              Busid "PCI:1:0:0"
              Driver "ati"
              Screen 0
              Option "MergedFB" "off"
              EndSection

              Section "Monitor"
              Identifier "Generic Monitor"
              Vendorname "Nokia"
              Modelname "Nokia 446Xpro"
              Horizsync 30.0-107.0
              Vertrefresh 50.0-150.0
              modeline "640x480@60" 25.2 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -vsync -hsync
              modeline "640x480@72" 31.5 640 664 704 832 480 489 491 520 -vsync -hsync
              modeline "640x480@75" 31.5 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -vsync -hsync
              modeline "640x480@85" 36.0 640 696 752 832 480 481 484 509 -vsync -hsync
              modeline "800x600@56" 36.0 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync
              modeline "800x600@72" 50.0 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync
              modeline "800x600@75" 49.5 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync
              modeline "800x600@85" 56.3 800 832 896 1048 600 601 604 631 +hsync +vsync
              modeline "800x600@60" 40.0 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync
              modeline "832x624@75" 57.284 832 864 928 1152 624 625 628 667 -vsync -hsync
              modeline "1024x768@85" 94.5 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync
              modeline "1024x768@75" 78.8 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync
              modeline "1024x768@70" 75.0 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -vsync -hsync
              modeline "1024x768@60" 65.0 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -vsync -hsync
              modeline "1024x768@43" 44.9 1024 1032 1208 1264 768 768 776 817 +hsync interlace +vsync
              modeline "1152x864@75" 108.0 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync
              modeline "1280x1024@75" 135.0 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
              modeline "1280x960@60" 102.1 1280 1360 1496 1712 960 961 964 994 -hsync +vsync
              modeline "1280x960@85" 148.5 1280 1344 1504 1728 960 961 964 1011 +hsync +vsync
              modeline "1280x1024@85" 157.5 1280 1344 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1072 +hsync +vsync
              modeline "1280x1024@60" 108.0 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
              modeline "1280x960@75" 129.86 1280 1368 1504 1728 960 961 964 1002 -hsync +vsync
              modeline "1400x1050@60" 122.61 1400 1488 1640 1880 1050 1051 1054 1087 -hsync +vsync
              modeline "1400x1050@75" 155.85 1400 1496 1648 1896 1050 1051 1054 1096 -hsync +vsync
              modeline "1600x1200@65" 175.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
              modeline "1600x1200@60" 162.0 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
              modeline "1600x1200@75" 202.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
              modeline "1600x1200@70" 189.0 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
              modeline "1600x1200@85" 229.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
              modeline "1792x1344@75" 261.0 1792 1888 2104 2456 1344 1345 1348 1417 -hsync +vsync
              modeline "1792x1344@60" 204.8 1792 1920 2120 2448 1344 1345 1348 1394 -hsync +vsync
              modeline "1856x1392@60" 218.3 1856 1952 2176 2528 1392 1393 1396 1439 -hsync +vsync
              modeline "1920x1440@60" 234.0 1920 2048 2256 2600 1440 1441 1444 1500 -hsync +vsync
              modeline "2048x1536@60" 266.95 2048 2200 2424 2800 1536 1537 1540 1589 -hsync +vsync
              Gamma 1.0
              EndSection

              Section "Screen"
              Identifier "Default Screen"
              Device "ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]"
              Monitor "Generic Monitor"
              Defaultdepth 24
              SubSection "Display"
              Depth 24
              Virtual 2048 1536
              Modes "1600x1200@75" "1600x1200@70" "1600x1200@60" "1600x1200@85" "1600x1200@65"
              "1792x1344@75" "1400x1050@75" "1792x1344@60" "1400x1050@60" "1856x1392@60" "1280x960@75"
              "1920x1440@60" "1280x1024@60" "2048x1536@60" "1280x1024@85" "1280x960@85" "1280x960@60"
              "1280x1024@75" "1152x864@75" "1024x768@43" "1024x768@60" "1024x768@70" "1024x768@75"
              "1024x768@85" "832x624@75" "800x600@60" "800x600@85" "800x600@75" "800x600@72" "800x600@56"
              "640x480@85" "640x480@75" "640x480@72" "640x480@60"
              EndSubSection
              EndSection

              Section "ServerLayout"
              Identifier "Default Layout"
              screen 0 "Default Screen" 0 0
              Inputdevice "Generic Keyboard"
              Inputdevice "Configured Mouse"

              # Uncomment if you have a wacom tablet
              # InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
              # InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
              # InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
              EndSection
              Section "Module"
              Load "v4l"
              EndSection
              Section "ServerFlags"
              EndSection


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                Re: Kaffeine and other aspect ratio problems

                Well, there were changes made to your current xorg.conf file! Before we delve into that,
                have you check to see if heinkel_111 suggestion fixes the immediate issue?
                Windows no longer obstructs my view.
                Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
                "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes​
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                  Re: Kaffeine and other aspect ratio problems

                  Originally posted by heinkel_111
                  NilsA sounds like a name from some familiar country.
                  Sikkert riktig. Men etter at deler av System Settingsmenyene ble på Japansk, er de nå satt tilbake til engelsk. Så, nå vet du om det er samme land eller nabo

                  Aspect ratios can be set in kaffeine. I don't think this problem is related to xorg, but to pushing a button which is a hotkey in kaffeine.

                  While playing, select "player" on the menu ("spiller").
                  Then go to "video" > "aspect ratio" ("aspektforhold")
                  You will see that there are 4 preset options. Quadratic is one of them, and it is mapped to F9 as a hotkey. I guess you pressed that sometime while running Kaffeine. Select "Automatic", that should work fine for most videos, but if there are problems you can go to this menu and override the settings.

                  There is also an option under "View" ("vis") in the menu for maintaining aspect ratio while you resize the window. Alternatively it can be set to follow your resizing interactively.
                  Sorry - did not work. 4:3 give near 3:4. (It is a 4:3 video.)
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                    Re: Kaffeine and other aspect ratio problems

                    Originally posted by Snowhog
                    Well, there were changes made to your current xorg.conf file! Before we delve into that,
                    have you check to see if heinkel_111 suggestion fixes the immediate issue?
                    Not the Heinkel_111 idea.

                    The .1 file is before installing the correct monitor.

                    Oh, and I forgot - I have the wrong log-in screen problem, or wrong innitial X, I assume. The revolving "wheel" s more like 0 than round, and the login screen has blact stripes to the left and the right. Next is the blue standard desktop, but in four parts . big upper left smalles down right, and the two others long. Then a flicker, and the correct 1600x1200 appear.

                    So, now it's Saturday night here, I'll open a bottle of wine, and hope for good ideas tomorrow.
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                      Re: Kaffeine and other aspect ratio problems

                      Would you do us a favor, and edit your post #6 and
                      force the super long line to wrap - cursor to a point and
                      hit enter to break the line into several shorter ones.
                      This will fix the super-wide reply windows.
                      Windows no longer obstructs my view.
                      Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
                      "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes​
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                        Re: Kaffeine and other aspect ratio problems

                        Originally posted by Snowhog
                        Would you do us a favor, and edit your post #6 and
                        force the super long line to wrap - cursor to a point and
                        hit enter to break the line into several shorter ones.
                        This will fix the super-wide reply windows.
                        That's a good idea!
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                          Re: Kaffeine and other aspect ratio problems

                          Much better!! No more scrolling left to right and back again. :P
                          Windows no longer obstructs my view.
                          Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
                          "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes​
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                            Re: Kaffeine and other aspect ratio problems

                            A little update here.

                            It seems to me the problem is different configuration for the steps of the booting into KDE.

                            First graphical step is black with a revolving wheel. The aspect ratio is wrong here.

                            Second is the log-in screen. Same as the first.

                            Third - correct aspect ratio, but wrong size desktop (if that is the correct term). The screen is filled up, but the blue KDE background picture is tiled.

                            Last - the "Loading KDE" - just fine.

                            My guess is:

                            The resolution in the three first are set to 1024/768 or 1240/1024.

                            The two first have false aspect ratio for the monitor type (Nokia 446XPro - 19 inch 4:3.

                            At the third step above, the correct monitor type is set, but the graphic background is still set too low - so it tiles up the 1600/1200 correct resolution.

                            Only the last do discover the correct settings - both background and resolution set to 1600/1200.

                            I know there are other places where the graphical properties are set - but son't know where.
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                              Re: Kaffeine and other aspect ratio problems

                              Is the nokia screen a digital flat panel with 1600x1200 resolution?
                              Is it a desktop computer, or what kind of machine is it?

                              Do you know anything about xrandr? It is an extension that allows you to change between multiple display sizes and orientations. I think it is enabled by default in kubuntu, and sometimes (as with me in ...edgy it was, I believe) it comes out wrong for some reason.
                              I had to manually enter a xrandr something command everytime after loading to get my dual screens activated right. the xorg.conf file was correct all the time.

                              If you have a digital flat panel, you probably don't need all those resolutions in your xorg.conf.
                              Mine is quite simplified now (I am showing only the lines related to screen, graphics card aka device and monitor, the rest I have omittted here):
                              Code:
                              Section "Device"
	Identifier	"nVidia Corporation G80 [GeForce 8600 GT]"
	Driver		"nvidia"
	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
	Option "NoLogo" "0"
#	Option "RenderAccel" "0"
# 	Option "CursorShadow" "1"
# 	Option "Coolbits" "1"
 	Option "ConnectedMonitor" "dfp, dfp"
 	Option "NoPowerConnectorCheck"
 	Option "TwinView" "1"
 	Option "Metamodes" "1600x1200,1600x1200; 1600x1200,NULL; NULL,1600x1200"
# 	Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "31-82"
# 	Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "56-76"
	Option	"TwinViewOrientation" "RightOf"
	Option	"UseEdidFreqs" "True"
EndSection


Section "Monitor"
	Identifier	#SyncMaster"
	Option		"DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier	"Default Screen"
	Device		"nVidia Corporation G80 [GeForce 8600 GT]"
	Monitor		"SyncMaster"
	DefaultDepth	24
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport 0 0
		Depth		24
		Modes		"1600x1200" 
	EndSubSection
EndSection
                              Only one resolution is possible under X, all confusion is thus eliminated :P (or not, that xrandr thing still got me some time ago...)
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