KDE 4 Beta 3 Majorly Broken

[jvance]

I'm not talking "it's a beta" broken - it's completely unusable.

I scrupulously followed the directions posted here:

http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php

Ran it as a full session according to the last bullet point (not the first time I've manually added a session type to KDM), logged in, and got a pretty much unusable desktop.

On the bottom was what looked like kicker, but no menus, no response to any mouse clicks and just one applet (plasmoid?) - a clock.

Top left was the plasma manager. Mousing over it produced a list of "plasmoids" which did nothing except leave little black squares in the middle of the desktop. I was able to launch a few applications by right-clicking on the desktop, selecting the application launcher, and typing in the application name exactly.

Essentially, it had almost the functionality of X11/twm circa 1990, except no xeyes

Obviously there's something broken in the packaging. At least it all uninstalled cleanly. If screenshots etc are needed, I can reinstall.

Has anyone successfully installed KDE 4 Beta 3?

[Rog131]

Re: KDE 4 Beta 3 Majorly Broken

Has anyone successfully installed KDE 4 Beta 3?

Well - sort of



Xephyr window:

Install:
xserver-xephyr
xterm

In the konsole:

:~$ Xephyr :1 -screen 1680x1050 & export DISPLAY=:1; xterm

1680x1050 is my display native resolution. Without it kde4 runs in small window (640x480 ?). And KDE4 remembers first session settings :P :



In the Xterm:

export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/lib
export KDEDIRS=/usr/lib/kde4
export PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/bin/:$PATH
export KDEHOME=~/.kde4
startkde

Full session:

sudo cp /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop

Alt + F2
kdesudo kate /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop

Name=KDE -> Name=KDE4

insert:
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/lib
export KDEDIR=/usr/lib/kde4
export PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/bin/:$PATH
export KDEHOME=~/.kde4

kde4.desktop:

[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Type=XSession
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/lib
export KDEDIRS=/usr/lib/kde4
export PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/bin/:$PATH
export KDEHOME=~/.kde4
Exec=/usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde
TryExec=/usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde
Name=KDE4
Name[hi]=केडीई
...

Note
In the first time i needed to run KDE4 in the xephyr window. Full session didn't fire up before i had run xephyr-session once.

On the bottom was what looked like kicker, but no menus, no response to any mouse clicks and just one applet (plasmoid?) - a clock.

Top left was the plasma manager. Mousing over it produced a list of "plasmoids" which did nothing except leave little black squares in the middle of the desktop. I was able to launch a few applications by right-clicking on the desktop, selecting the application launcher, and typing in the application name exactly.

The Kicker is Dead, All Hail the Kickoff:



and then




From A visual stroll through the world of KDE 4 Beta (3.94):

It’s all horribly broken right now

That’s right. KDE 4 starts up half-drunk and half-broken. In my opinion, this beta is (judging from the developmental stage) not really a beta but rather closer to alpha quality.

Links:
KDE 4 Preview [rev 723381]
http://polishlinux.org/kde/kde-4-preview-rev-723381/

A visual stroll through the world of KDE 4 Beta (3.94)
http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/10/1...de-4-beta-394/

KDE4/4.0 Release Schedule
http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KD...lease_Schedule

KDE4/4.0 Release Roadmap
http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KD...elease_Roadmap

KDE 4.0 Release Schedule Revised
http://dot.kde.org/1189160442/

KDE4/4.0 Release Beta Goals
http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KD...ase_Beta_Goals

[MepisReign]

Re: KDE 4 Beta 3 Majorly Broken

Well, KDE 4 looks promising, let's wait until goes stable....in the meantime I will wait

Regards,

MepisReign

[drioo]

Re: KDE 4 Beta 3 Majorly Broken

Yes, lets wait for the stable release.

[Teunis]

Re: KDE 4 Beta 3 Majorly Broken

I've just installed KDE4 Beta 3 on my recent upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy and so far it works without issues.

I added the -fullscreen flag to the Xephir command and can toggle between the two desktops.

Xephyr -fullscreen :1 & export DISPLAY=:1; xterm

[footer]

Re: KDE 4 Beta 3 Majorly Broken

Sorry to jump into this thread so late ... But I just found it doing a search for 'KDE plasmoids'.

Anyway, it's been over a month since this thread was started and as we know, KDE 4.0 is now delayed until Jan 11, 2008, for good reason I presume. As we anxiously await it's release, I'd like to know where I can find plasmoids. There were only three posted at kde-look.org but I know there are more out there. Check out this guy's KDE 4.0 desktop:

http://blog.nixternal.com/2007.11.23...-plasmoid-fun/

I'm not a developer but sometimes I wish I was as I'd like to create my own plasmoids! Perhaps I'll get into that someday but in the mean time, does anyone have a good link for plasmoids? I'd really like a CPU temp/usage monitor and weather monitor as a bare minimum. I've been using Superkaramba for a couple of years now and really like Liquid Weather and another theme that monitors my CPU usage/temp, network bandwidth usage (up/down), hard drive space, etc.

Thanks!