Problem with update

[Guest]

hi, after i installed Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon and then reboot, the update notifier shows that there are 158 updates, so i choose to update then it starts downloading, when it starts to install the updates it raise an error that may be there was error in fetching some updates, and also the strange thing that it shows there is a newer version of kubuntu with version number "7.10" which is the one i already installed where it asks me if i want to upgrade, so what is this all about??

one note here that i checked the repositories where i have the same selection available in my other ubuntu system but what is happening i dont know ??

[Guest]

Re: Problem with update

Hi, just to confirm this bug... - which looks like a showstopper at the moment...

I have twice got the same result as you, after trying a clean install (deleting the linux partitions first) of Gutsy Gibbon 7.10 Kubuntu on a Dell C400 with plenty of disk space (90 GB or so free).

Accepting all defaults, just letting the clean install proceed...

After booting into the system, Adept Updater offered me 158 updates. Accepted those, downloaded OK, but partway through the install process, Adept reports it can't continue possibly because a package update would break something.

Decide to reboot and try again... But I can't reboot, because the updater has hosed the boot process: one of the needed very early on (pre-kernel load) is reported as not found.

I'm guessing there's an unfortunate dependency problem with 7.10 Kubuntu's 158 updates on a clean install.

I also saw the offer to upgrade from 7.10 to 7.10, which I guessed wasn't going to help.

I have reported this on Launchpad as Bug #200112. I will report back here if that bug is updated, or pointed to an existing report.

UPDATE: As mentioned elsewhere, the following workaround fixes the problem OK in my case (fresh 7.10 install from CDROM)...

Once adept_updater has crashed, and before rebooting, open a command shell window and execute the following commands:-

sudo dpkg --configure -a
sudo apt-get clean
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install

Then reboot.

I don't know whether the original problem is broken dependency lists or just too many updates at once for Adept Updater, but the system seems OK after that.


Cheers,

- Martin

[Guest]

Re: Problem with update

regarding the reboot issue i had the same, where after Adept Updater raise that error i tried to close it and redo the update where i had an error telling that there is already running Updater with an option to press 'yes' button to resolve this issue but pressing that button doesnt resolve anything, so i decided to reboot where after reboot and exactly right after the 2 seconds countdown i had a command line error telling that "cant find file ... " so i started again with new fresh installation where i had the same again so it seems am having the same scene like u ...

[Itsuki]

Re: Problem with update

Hi there! I'm new in this forum and in the Linux system a swell!!

Everything happens for me is a new condition and I feel very frustrated because I can't handle difficulties, since I don't know commands and I've never used a terminal before only DOS when I was a kid...I was a windows user and everything seems so different in this evinronment, even if Kubuntu is surely the most friendly interface to Linux system I have ever seen!

By the way, I am writing here because I recognize the problem reported in this thread, and I think I'm t going crazy about that: I have installed Kubuntu 7.10 for the first time about 2 or 3 weeks ago, and I had all the problems you described here...adept didn't get updated, gave me errors, crashed when I tried to install something that was on the live cd, and also said there was a new version (7.10, that was the one I had just installed!) but didn't get over 66% of download...it stopped and I had to quit download and program.
Someone told me to try sudo apt-getupdate etc on terminal, but even in this way it didn't work.

Then I went to a friend of mine's and he gave me his sources.list file, I overwrote my etc/apt/sources.list, then he changed something I can't remember and it worked!! I could update adept, and I could find almost every program I liked...I was a happy girl!!

Unfortunately, I had to install Kubuntu again (for some reason I will not explain here because it would be too long), this time I am really going crazy, because I have a similar problem with adept (it's not the same, because this time it doesn't crash or give me any error, it just doesn't get updated and it doesn't notify the reason!!) I overwrited the souces.list from my friend's one, like I did the first time, but nothing...I tried to change manually repositories, but again, nothing...I really think this is a problem with repositories, because as I change one of them from the file and I try different combinations, the % of download changes: sometimes it stops at 33%, other times 26%, but the last times I tried didn't move from 0%, and I'm getting really upset because if I try to find on adept something very easy to find, like "amsn", it doesn't find it...let alone my wireless card's drivers!!

So, this time nothing's going in the right way, and I am frustrated because befor re-installing Kubuntu it worked, and now, even doing the same procedures as before, it doesn't!! I feel I can't manage it...

I think someone who has his/her Kubuntu 7.10 adept perfectly working should share publically his/her sources.list, just to make a match and check if there are any differences...

PLEASE, HELP ME, I can't use my first Linux system if I can't update or download programs!!

Thanks to anyone who wants to give me some answers!

[blackjack72]

Re: Problem with update

This helped me with the same problem.
http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3089642.0

[Fintan]

Re: Problem with update

The first thing I do when installing kubuntu is:

sudo apt-get install synaptic

Synaptic:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto

Adept just isn't prime time yet.

[Itsuki]

Re: Problem with update

This helped me with the same problem.
http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3089642.0

Thank you very much for your answer...I tried to sudo dpkg --configure -a, but it stops at 4% and gives a lot of errors related to some repositories links...

[Itsuki]

Re: Problem with update

The first thing I do when installing kubuntu is:

sudo apt-get install synaptic

Synaptic:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto

Adept just isn't prime time yet.

Thank you, too...tried this, but I got this on terminal:

Reading from package list...Done
Creating dependencies tree...Done
Reading state information...Done
synaptic package doesn't have available versions, but it's named from another package. This means package doesn't exist, it became obsolete or is available only within another source
E: synaptic package hasn't candidates to install

[dibl]

Re: Problem with update

This:

I tried to sudo dpkg --configure -a, but it stops at 4% and gives a lot of errors related to some repositories links...

and this:

Reading from package list...Done
Creating dependencies tree...Done
Reading state information...Done
synaptic package doesn't have available versions, but it's named from another package. This means package doesn't exist, it became obsolete or is available only within another source
E: synaptic package hasn't candidates to install

both could be caused by problems with the source list or the mirror repository server. Can you do Alt-F2 "kate /boot/grub/menu.lst" and then copy that file and post it in a reply here? Maybe we will be able to see a problem in it.

[Itsuki]

Re: Problem with update

Can you do Alt-F2 "kate /boot/grub/menu.lst" and then copy that file and post it in a reply here? Maybe we will be able to see a problem in it.

It opened a file with this content:

# menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8)
#      grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8),
#      grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub
#      and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/.

## default num
# Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0, and
# the entry number 0 is the default if the command is not used.
#
# You can specify 'saved' instead of a number. In this case, the default entry
# is the entry saved with the command 'savedefault'.
# WARNING: If you are using dmraid do not use 'savedefault' or your
# array will desync and will not let you boot your system.
default		0

## timeout sec
# Set a timeout, in SEC seconds, before automatically booting the default entry
# (normally the first entry defined).
timeout		10

## hiddenmenu
# Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu)
#hiddenmenu

# Pretty colours
#color cyan/blue white/blue

## password ['--md5'] passwd
# If used in the first section of a menu file, disable all interactive editing
# control (menu entry editor and command-line) and entries protected by the
# command 'lock'
# e.g. password topsecret
#   password --md5 $1$gLhU0/$aW78kHK1QfV3P2b2znUoe/
# password topsecret

#
# examples
#
# title		Windows 95/98/NT/2000
# root		(hd0,0)
# makeactive
# chainloader	+1
#
# title		Linux
# root		(hd0,1)
# kernel	/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro
#

#
# Put static boot stanzas before and/or after AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST

### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified
## by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below

## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs

## ## Start Default Options ##
## default kernel options
## default kernel options for automagic boot options
## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z
## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted.
## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro
##   kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro
##   kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro
# kopt=root=UUID=f5659ea0-708d-4ccd-87b5-adb41270c27d ro

## Setup crashdump menu entries
## e.g. crashdump=1
# crashdump=0

## default grub root device
## e.g. groot=(hd0,0)
# groot=(hd0,2)

## should update-grub create alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. alternative=true
##   alternative=false
# alternative=true

## should update-grub lock alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. lockalternative=true
##   lockalternative=false
# lockalternative=false

## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the
## alternatives
## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
# defoptions=quiet splash

## should update-grub lock old automagic boot options
## e.g. lockold=false
##   lockold=true
# lockold=false

## Xen hypervisor options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenhopt=

## Xen Linux kernel options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenkopt=console=tty0

## altoption boot targets option
## multiple altoptions lines are allowed
## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options
##   altoptions=(recovery) single
# altoptions=(recovery mode) single

## controls how many kernels should be put into the menu.lst
## only counts the first occurence of a kernel, not the
## alternative kernel options
## e.g. howmany=all
##   howmany=7
# howmany=all

## should update-grub create memtest86 boot option
## e.g. memtest86=true
##   memtest86=false
# memtest86=true

## should update-grub adjust the value of the default booted system
## can be true or false
# updatedefaultentry=false

## should update-grub add savedefault to the default options
## can be true or false
# savedefault=false

## ## End Default Options ##

title		Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
root		(hd0,2)
kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=f5659ea0-708d-4ccd-87b5-adb41270c27d ro quiet splash
initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
quiet

title		Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode)
root		(hd0,2)
kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=f5659ea0-708d-4ccd-87b5-adb41270c27d ro single
initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic

title		Ubuntu 7.10, memtest86+
root		(hd0,2)
kernel		/boot/memtest86+.bin
quiet

### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST

# This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian
# ones.
title		Other operating systems:
root


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
# on /dev/hdc2
title		Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
root		(hd0,1)
savedefault
makeactive
chainloader	+1

[dibl]

Re: Problem with update

Geeeeeeeeeeeeez -- I apologize -- it's early morning and my senile brain slipped a cog. That's your boot menu. What we need to see is the file at /etc/apt/sources.list.

So, try again with Alt-F2 "kate /etc/apt/sources.list" while I go get another cup of coffee.

[MoonRise]

Re: Problem with update

Especially the DST messing thing up!! >

[Itsuki]

Re: Problem with update

Geeeeeeeeeeeeez -- I apologize -- it's early morning and my senile brain slipped a cog. That's your boot menu. What we need to see is the file at /etc/apt/sources.list.

So, try again with Alt-F2 "kate /etc/apt/sources.list" while I go get another cup of coffee.

ahahahah!! don't worry, be happy!! have a nice breakfast!!

this is sources.list text:

deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release amd64 (20071016.1)]/ gutsy main restricted 
# See [url]http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes[/url] for how to upgrade to
# newer versions of the distribution.

deb [url]http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] gutsy main restricted
deb-src [url]http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] gutsy main restricted

## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
## distribution.
deb [url]http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] gutsy-updates main restricted
deb-src [url]http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] gutsy-updates main restricted

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
## team.
deb [url]http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] gutsy universe
deb-src [url]http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] gutsy universe

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu 
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to 
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in 
## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu
## security team.
deb [url]http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] gutsy multiverse
deb-src [url]http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] gutsy multiverse

## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
## repository.
## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
# deb [url]http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
# deb-src [url]http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse

deb [url]http://www.virtualbox.org/debian[/url] gutsy non-free
deb [url]http://packages.medibuntu.org/[/url] gutsy free non-free
deb [url]http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] gutsy-updates restricted main multiverse universe
deb [url]http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] gutsy-proposed restricted main multiverse universe
deb [url]http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] gutsy-security restricted main multiverse universe

# deb [url]http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu[/url] gutsy main
# deb [url]http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu[/url] gutsy main

[dibl]

Re: Problem with update

It's not obvious that there is anything wrong with that source list. Could you open the console and run

sudo dpkg --configure -a

and then post the errors that it puts out?

I was re-reading your original post. You said you over-wrote your sources list with your friend's list. Hmmmmmmm. Are you in the same country as your friend? I'm wondering if it would have been better to modify the source list that Kubuntu installed for you -- this may be at the heart of the problem you are having.

[Itsuki]

Re: Problem with update

It's not obvious that there is anything wrong with that source list. Could you open the console and run

sudo dpkg --configure -a

and then post the errors that it puts out?

I was re-reading your original post. You said you over-wrote your sources list with your friend's list. Hmmmmmmm. Are you in the same country as your friend? I'm wondering if it would have been better to modify the source list that Kubuntu installed for you -- this may be at the heart of the problem you are having.

Yes, me and my friend are in the same city, too!! Anyway, why should have worked the first time I did this overwriting and now doesn't??

This is very strange...if you want to, I kept a copy from the original sources.list kubuntu created for me when I installed it...this was the original one:

deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release amd64 (20071016.1)]/ gutsy main restricted
# See [url]http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes[/url] for how to upgrade to
# newer versions of the distribution.

# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb [url]http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] gutsy main restricted
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb-src [url]http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] gutsy main restricted

## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
## distribution.
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb [url]http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] gutsy-updates main restricted
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb-src [url]http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] gutsy-updates main restricted

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
## team.
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb [url]http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] gutsy universe
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb-src [url]http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] gutsy universe
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb [url]http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] gutsy-updates universe
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb-src [url]http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] gutsy-updates universe

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu 
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to 
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in 
## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu
## security team.
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb [url]http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] gutsy multiverse
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb-src [url]http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] gutsy multiverse
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb [url]http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] gutsy-updates multiverse
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb-src [url]http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] gutsy-updates multiverse

## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
## repository.
## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
# deb [url]http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
# deb-src [url]http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse

## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's
## 'partner' repository. This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is
## offered by Canonical and the respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu
## users.
# deb [url]http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu[/url] gutsy partner
# deb-src [url]http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu[/url] gutsy partner

# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb [url]http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/url] gutsy-security main restricted
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb-src [url]http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/url] gutsy-security main restricted
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb [url]http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/url] gutsy-security universe
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb-src [url]http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/url] gutsy-security universe
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb [url]http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/url] gutsy-security multiverse
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb-src [url]http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/url] gutsy-security multiverse

I've tried to write on terminal again sudo dpkg --configure -a command, and differently from before it doesn't say nothing!! this is very strange...when I did it about 1 hour ago it wrote something, but now i press return and there is the prompt kia@kia:~$ (kia is me :P )

What am I supposed to do after giving command sudo dpkg --configure -a?? Maybe I should try to get adept updated?