Dropped Back and Punted

[blackjack72]

Although I do like many of the features of KDE, I have found, as a relative Newbie who has worked about a month at trying to get things to work, that it is too unstable for me to waste any more time on. Ubuntu w/Gnome is much more stable, at this point, and I think that I will stay with it until Hardy comes out. As a matter of fact, I can't get Kubuntu to even install at this point and will probably stop trying until Hardy.

[toad]

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I hope people will forgive me, but If you want a rock solid distro topped by KDE then I'd go here http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/DebianEtch-KDE

[marshallbanana]

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Forgiven. How can we object to Debian? Its our very own Godfather.

[dibl]

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Forgiven. How can we object to Debian? Its our very own Godfather.

Heh heh heh.

Similarly, I'm very impressed with sidux -- also pure Debian, with KDE. For an "unstable" version, the sidux team keeps it rock solid, in my experience.

http://sidux.com/

But, KDE 4 on Kubuntu gets the edge, on my system. 8)

[toad]

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dibl, do you know whether they include caspar und ubiquity in their repos? I want to remaster a debian based distro. Kubuntu seems way too unreliable, especially taking all the recent hullabaloo about not being able to boot into account.

Etch or Lenny would of course be ideal, but AFAIK I cannot remaster those with remastersys... Or do they have their own remastering package?

Thought I'd ask you first

[dibl]

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I dunno toad, and I'm away from home stuck on a Win-crap box, or I'd look it up for you. I can check tonight.

Yes, I think if I had aspirations to make a new distro, I'd stick pretty close to Debian -- which *buntu certainly has not done.

Another thought that strikes my very non-expert mind is that sidux gets a lot of updates, and kind of continuously -- there is pretty much a daily dist-upgrade that pulls in all kinds of stuff. Two days ago the whole Open Office suite got upgraded and it took 20 minutes on a broadband connection to come down. I think slh has done 2 new kernels since this time last week. They have a user script called smxi that is used to manage the dist-upgrades, kernel upgrades, graphics driver re-installations, v-box reinstallation, and a lot of stuff that would be pretty painful if the user had to manually take care of it all the time. So, even though they do a marvelous job of keeping it very stable for the users, the reality is there is an awful lot of action going on behind the scenes to keep the distro solid. I'm not sure that would be a real solid foundation on which to build something with your name on it ..... :P

But, I would encourage you to give it a shot and see what you think -- I'll look up your packages tonight.

[toad]

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Nice one ,dibl, cheers!

Yeah, sounds too busy by half, sidux does. I've only stepped outside the safe world of Etch and dipped my toes into the exciting new world of lenny - so go figure...

You know of any others who may be interested in trying to put their stamp on a distro? There is nothing like a team working on the sort of same thing.

[Fintan]

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You might like mepis 7.0.
http://www.mepis.org/

I am using it a lot and it is very fast and solid.

For remastering you can have a look here:
http://mepislovers.org/forums/showth...948#post110948

[toad]

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Great link, Fintan! Cheers.

Never used Mepis, got to read up on it first. Hope it doesn't have these show stoppers like kubuntu (won't boot, black screen of death, you name it, etc.) appears to have at the mo.

I take it Mepis is debian based... I've been through rpm hell and back and don't fancy another run in this lifetime

[Fintan]

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Mepis is based on etch. Very stable and fast. Just not as cutting edge as GG / HH.

They are also waiting before going kde4.

[dibl]

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Yes, Mepis is pure Debian Etch, and very stable.

Of course, it still has the same initial graphics-detection challenges as all Linuces have -- of the half-dozen graphics modes available on the Mepis 7 Live CD, only the VESA mode would even get me to a GUI desktop with my Nvidia 8800GTS card. But, once I installed the Nvidia driver, it's been been rock solid.

Yes, I installed Fedora 8, just to check into life "on the other side". It lasted about a week. :P

No, toad I'm not aware of anyone who shares your interest in rolling a distro. If such a character appears, I'll point him your way.

[toad]

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Am just downloading MEPIS 7.0 and freeing a partition to give it a whirl

EDITED

Just read that they moved from Debian to Ubunut repos in 2006 But I really like the forum idea of separating levels of experience, nice one.

[Fintan]

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Just read that they moved from Debian to Ubunut repos in 2006

Yes, and then they moved to etch in 2007 for the mepis 7.0

Edit:
A copy of my mepis sources.lst:

# See sources.list(5) for more information

# This file should be edited through synaptic

# MEPIS improvements, overrides and updates--the MEPIS magic
deb ftp://ftp.mepis.com/mepis/ mepis-7.0 main

deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free

deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free

deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile etch/volatile main contrib non-free

# Some Debian Multimedia software might be illegal in some jurisdictions
# deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org stable main

# The VirtualBox non-free binary edition
deb http://www.virtualbox.org/debian etch non-free

[toad]

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Oh, it didn't say that in the story of mepis. Thank you for putting my mind at rest.

I'll see you over in the mepis forum

[dibl]

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dibl, do you know whether they include caspar und ubiquity in their repos?

The answer is "YES" on caspar, and "NO" on ubiquity.