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    #31
    Re: Error 11: Unrecognized device string : Kubuntu 8.04 won't boot up

    to make Control+D work:
    press Enter,
    do Control+D,
    press Enter again
    wait 30-60 seconds
    An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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      #32
      Re: Error 11: Unrecognized device string : Kubuntu 8.04 won't boot up

      I see now that you said:
      “it did boot up Kubuntu. “
      hmmm... good news but confusing.

      And I see that you tried chainloader. Did you first also do the root (hd0,5), setup (hd0,5) before trying it? (If so, it's a real puzzle! The main reason you'd get grub> is that there is no menu.lst there, or a bad menu.lst, or failure to install GRUB in (hd0,5) .... ?).

      hmmm....

      (It's important to resolve all those UUIDs in a case like this; like those duplicates I mentioned before.)
      An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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        #33
        Re: Error 11: Unrecognized device string : Kubuntu 8.04 won't boot up

        Yeah, see, back a ways, you said:


        And here's Kubuntu's etc/fstab ( again I copied this BEFORE installing Debian & Fedora8)

        :::::::

        # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
        #
        # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options>
        <dump> <pass>
        proc /proc proc defaults
        0 0
        # /dev/sda6
        UUID=bb9376fc-7f60-4330-aa2f-f1e43d21a532 /
        ext3 errors=remount-ro 0 1
        # /dev/sda1
        UUID=F68CCC528CCC0ED5 /media/sda1 ntfs
        defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
        # /dev/sda7
        UUID=6368746f-2074-616b-6f65-207575696400 /media/sda7
        ext3 defaults 0 2
        # /dev/sda8
        UUID=6368746f-2074-616b-6f65-207575696400 /media/sda8
        ext3 defaults 0 2
        # /dev/sda5
        UUID=911b9f83-a3cc-4237-9fc8-233c5a705341 none
        swap sw 0 0
        /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660
        user,noauto,exec 0 0


        ==> sda7 & sda8 are messed up (duplicates)
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          #34
          Re: Error 11: Unrecognized device string : Kubuntu 8.04 won't boot up

          My post# 28 was in reply to your post# 25 (before reading 26 & 27).

          Chainloader option brought prompt / cursor at

          Grub>

          And thats it. Wasn't able to boot into Kubuntu from Grub prompt.
          ************************


          Now I just edited Kubuntu's /etc/fstab as you suggested in your post#27 and then changed Fedora's Menu.lst from "root=UUID=...." to "/dev/sda6 / ext3 errors=remount-ro 0 1"

          After re-boot when I selected regular / first / original Kubuntu entry in Fedora's GRUB,

          I got the same error as earlier, the only difference is instead of "root=UUID=....", this time I got "root=/dev/sda6 ro" :


          :::::

          Booting 'Kubuntu 8.04 Alpha 3 -- Ubuntu hardy (development branch), kernel'

          root (hd0,5)
          Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
          kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-3-generic
          [linux-bzImage, setup=0x2800, size=0x1c8d58]
          root=/dev/sda6 ro

          Error 11: Unrecognized device string

          Press any key to continue...

          :::::

          - Jags
          Vista Ultimate<br />Solaris Express Developers Edition<br />Kubuntu 8.04 Alpha 4<br />OpenSUSE 11.0 Alpha 2<br />Fedora 8<br />Debian 4.0<br />Mandriva 2008.1<br />Sabayon 3.5 Loop 1

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            #35
            Re: Error 11: Unrecognized device string : Kubuntu 8.04 won't boot up

            Boy, I'm starting to suspect that Kubuntu 8.04 is goofy here.
            And/or, this has to do with Fedora's failure to handle UUIDs.
            With the UUIDs replaced by /dev/sda6 in Kubuntu's fstab and menu.lst, the only thing left to try is to re-install Fedora and see if it picks up the correct sda6.

            Also, to use Kubuntu 7.04 instead of 8.04.

            The fact that chainloader didn't work is very, very unusual. How could it NOT work! There's a subtle gremlin in the works here, somewhere.
            An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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              #36
              Re: Error 11: Unrecognized device string : Kubuntu 8.04 won't boot up

              Mike

              In your post# 32, I guess you found the holy grail !! [ "==> sda7 & sda8 are messed up (duplicates)" ]

              yes, indeed sda7 and sda8 are duplicates.

              And thats the error message I got when I tried your "Configfile boot" option:

              fsck.ext3: Unable to resolve 'UUID=6368746f-2074-616b-6f65-207575696400'


              So how to solve this one? and how come Kubuntu got duplicates device id for sda7 & sda8, as at the time of Kubuntu installation sda7 & sda8 were empty Linux Ext3 partitions !

              - Jags




              Vista Ultimate<br />Solaris Express Developers Edition<br />Kubuntu 8.04 Alpha 4<br />OpenSUSE 11.0 Alpha 2<br />Fedora 8<br />Debian 4.0<br />Mandriva 2008.1<br />Sabayon 3.5 Loop 1

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                #37
                Re: Error 11: Unrecognized device string : Kubuntu 8.04 won't boot up

                Not sure why.

                But to fix it, you need to access Kubuntu fstab as root, and edit the UUIDs so they are correct.
                The correct UUIDs are found using the command
                blkid
                at a terminal.
                Then copy/paste them into fstab, being careful to copy the exact string and nothing but.

                blkid -- second letter is "ell" as in "lost."
                An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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                  #38
                  Re: Error 11: Unrecognized device string : Kubuntu 8.04 won't boot up

                  ...and, as I say, I'm REAL suspicious now of K 8.04 being messed up!
                  I can't imagine this happening with Kubuntu 7.10, esp after editing to get rid of UUIds (in case fedora prefers it that way).
                  An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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                    #39
                    Re: Error 11: Unrecognized device string : Kubuntu 8.04 won't boot up

                    btw, jags, you know that 8.04 is in development, right? In the past, the alpha-beta versions have exhibited some strange things, including with GRUB (according to some posts I read at the time).
                    Most of us use Kubuntu 7.10 which works like cake, like a charm.
                    (I am also questioning how Fedora's installer and fedora's GRUB is handling the device references, but thought I should mention "the obvious" about 8.04.)
                    An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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                      #40
                      Re: Error 11: Unrecognized device string : Kubuntu 8.04 won't boot up

                      For whatever it's worth ....

                      When I played with Fedora 8, for about a month or so, I used the Kubuntu boot menu, and merely pasted in the Fedora boot information, rather than using the Fedora boot menu. I dunno -- there are more than one version of Grub out there, and it may be an incompatibility issue between the two types of Linux. :P

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                        #41
                        Re: Error 11: Unrecognized device string : Kubuntu 8.04 won't boot up

                        Mike

                        Ok! I followed your direction of post#36.

                        I ran that " blkid " in Kubuntu's terminal and corrected UUIDs in Kubuntu's /etc/fstab.

                        After re-boot I boot up into Fedora and edited Menu.lst and changed Kubuntu's entry the way it was, i.e. device id=UUID

                        Re-booted the system and I tried boot up first / original Kubuntu entry in Fedora's Grub, I got error 11 again as earlier:

                        :::::

                        Booting 'Kubuntu 8.04 Alpha 3 -- Ubuntu hardy (development branch), kernel'

                        root (hd0,5)
                        Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
                        kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-3-generic
                        [linux-bzImage, setup=0x2800, size=0x1c8d58]
                        root=UUID=bb9376fc-7f60-4330-aa2f-f1e43d21a532 ro

                        Error 11: Unrecognized device string

                        Press any key to continue...

                        :::::



                        BUT


                        when I tried your " Kubuntu Configfile boot" option, it did boot up WITHOUT any error message

                        so now how to change Fedora Menu.lst's original Kubuntu entry so that it boots up with that entry?

                        Thanks a million Mike you found it.

                        - Jags
                        Vista Ultimate<br />Solaris Express Developers Edition<br />Kubuntu 8.04 Alpha 4<br />OpenSUSE 11.0 Alpha 2<br />Fedora 8<br />Debian 4.0<br />Mandriva 2008.1<br />Sabayon 3.5 Loop 1

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                          #42
                          Re: Error 11: Unrecognized device string : Kubuntu 8.04 won't boot up

                          a little correction:

                          when I tried your "Configfile boot" option, it did bring Kubuntu's GRUB entries and I selected first entry to boot Kubuntu and it booted up Kubuntu without any error message.

                          - Jags
                          Vista Ultimate<br />Solaris Express Developers Edition<br />Kubuntu 8.04 Alpha 4<br />OpenSUSE 11.0 Alpha 2<br />Fedora 8<br />Debian 4.0<br />Mandriva 2008.1<br />Sabayon 3.5 Loop 1

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                            #43
                            Re: Error 11: Unrecognized device string : Kubuntu 8.04 won't boot up

                            If I understand you correctly,

                            you edited Fedora's menu.lst to include another boot entry for Kubuntu 8.04, and it is the

                            title
                            configfile

                            stanza, and you did File>Save and File>Quit.

                            (and you also fixed all those naughty UUID duplicates, altho that's not quite relevant to what we are saying right now, here)

                            So when you turn on the PC, you get Fedora's boot menu, you select Kubuntu Configfile boot, you get a second boot menu from Kubuntu, you select Kubuntu(again) and it boots into Kubuntu with no problems, right?

                            If so, that's all -- you are done.
                            If not, then clarify.

                            (If it's ok, as I outlined, then if you wish, you may go into Fedora's menu.lst and edit-out the Kubuntu boot stanzas you do NOT wish to use and keep only the one that says

                            title Kubuntu Configfile boot
                            configfile etc

                            (you can delete the others, including chainloader, or you may comment them out using the # sign before each line you do not wish to use but might wish to keep in case you need to refer to them in the future).


                            If that's the way you want it, using configfile, then you can reduce the timeout in the second menu.lst;
                            i.e., in the Kubuntu menu.lst, you can change the timeout line to read
                            timeout 3
                            That will make it go into Kubuntu in just 3 seconds, automatically, if you do not touch any keys;
                            do NOT make it zero, though! This way, 3 seconds is enough time in case you should need to interrupt it (say to get a GRUB prompt or something, or to select Recovery).
                            An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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                              #44
                              Re: Error 11: Unrecognized device string : Kubuntu 8.04 won't boot up

                              Ok ! this just a guess:

                              I don't know how come Kubuntu got duplicate device IDs for sda7 & sda8, as at the time of Kubuntu installation sda7 & sda8 were empty Linux Ext3 partitions !

                              BUT I think, because I choose to format sda7 & sda8 at the Debian 4.0 and Fedora 8 installations, the format changed their UUIDs ??

                              - Jags

                              Vista Ultimate<br />Solaris Express Developers Edition<br />Kubuntu 8.04 Alpha 4<br />OpenSUSE 11.0 Alpha 2<br />Fedora 8<br />Debian 4.0<br />Mandriva 2008.1<br />Sabayon 3.5 Loop 1

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                                #45
                                Re: Error 11: Unrecognized device string : Kubuntu 8.04 won't boot up

                                Oh YES!

                                Yes, if you re-format the partition, the UUID WILL change (in my experience).
                                I get those Unable to Resolve errors all the time because of re-formatting.
                                An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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