Painfully slow boot up times

[tuxulin-nox]

really i was impressed with 7.10 on the pc
so i thought that id delete the other distro
on my laptop and install 7.10 there too.
boy oh boy was i wrong.

i have a toshiba equium made in feb07 it came with vista
straight from the shop i used vista for 1 month and went back
to XP. used xp for 4 months then took it away and installed and tested
fedora, debian, mint and mandriva all OS worked fine, so i know
its not a hardware problem.

1. today i inserted the GG7.10 demo disk it loaded perfect fast and went
to desktop.

2, i installed GG 7.10 and done the update/upgrade took the disk out
and rebooted

there is no boot splash Kubuntu screeen. i mean the screen is black. the
only indication that something is happening is the flashing HD light.
7 minutes later (no lie) the login screen appears from no where.

after loging in everything works perfectly. shutting down showed no
screen either, however the shutdown process was fast.

did anyone else go through this and how do you solve it.
TN

[juantovarm]

Re: Painfully slow boot up times

That shouldnt be happening. Edit your boot/grub/menu.lst and after "end default options" look for the kernel line and eliminate the quiet splash. When you reboot it will tell you what is going on, so you can post the problem and look for a fix

[tuxulin-nox]

Re: Painfully slow boot up times

Hi juantovarm
thank you so much for the answer. its booting up fast
as it should and all is well however im still puzzled.

after removing the "quiet splash" i ran a dmesg to see
if there were any errors and guess what i saw ? none.
so i asked my self what on earth was the 7 minute wait for?
i just cant figure it out.

how ever like i said its all working and now im really impressed
with GG 7.10 its very responsive in all aspects.
i know toshiba laptops are a bit difficult with sound working properly
but at the end of the day i managed to get it going through headphones
and i can live with that.

thanks again
TN

[juantovarm]

Re: Painfully slow boot up times

REALLY? you got a toshiba to make sound? how did you do that? my brother in law wants to switch from xp tu *buntu but his toshiba wont make a peep and i have followed all the how to's but to no avail...

[Snowhog]

Re: Painfully slow boot up times

What Toshiba laptop do you have? Mine is a Satellite P105-S6147. I have working sound.

[Snowhog]

Re: Painfully slow boot up times

tuxulin-nox

The initial 'long delay' in booting most likely was the initial file system check that took place. As you had not yet removed the quite splash from the kernel boot line, you didn't see what was going on. Not that you have those removed, you won't see another file system check for quite some time, unless something goes awry during a boot up or shut down, triggering the check on a subsequent boot.

[juantovarm]

Re: Painfully slow boot up times

Toshiba Satellite p105-sp92 with conexant cx20551 (waikiki) sound card

[Snowhog]

Re: Painfully slow boot up times

The following is my 'log' of what I did that ultimately got my sound working on my Toshiba.

2007-06-10
From http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/foru...ead.php?p=3553
Simpler solution
sudo cat "options snd-hda-intel model=3stack" >> /etc/modprobe.d/options
sudo update-modules

Step 1. Open a Root shell
Step 2. Copy /etc/modprobe.d/options to /etc/modprobe.d/options_original.bak
Step 3. Edit as Root /etc/modprobe.d/options and add: options snd-hda-intel model=3stack
Step 4. Run update-modules
Step 5. Reboot and check for sound

Rebooted. Still no sound.

2007-06-11
From http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=251877
Modify /boot/grub/menu.list and add "acpi=off" to the end of each kernel line

Rebooted. I have sound! Yeah!!!!!

2007-06-12
Edited /etc/modprobe.d/options and commented out the options snd-hda-intel model=3stack line
Ran update-modules
Rebooted. Sound still works.

2007-06-14
Reintalled Feiesty Fawn 7.04 to ensure kernel was 'unadulterated'
Modified /boot/grub/menu.list and add "acpi=off" to the end of each kernel line
Sound works fine.

2007-06-16
Modified /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base to add:
options snd-hda-intel index=0 single_cmd=1 model=laptop-eapd
per https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...20/+bug/117035
Rebooted. No sound.
Modified /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base to remove:
options snd-hda-intel index=0 single_cmd=1 model=laptop-eapd
Modified /boot/grub/menu.list to add back the kernel lines:
acpi=off

2007-06-20
See Adept Manager Package Change Log this date
Removed "acpi=off" from kernal line.
Sound stops working.
Added "acpi=off" back to kernal line.
Sound works.

2007-06-21
(refer to 2007-06-16 above)
Added '0 snd_hda_intel' to the /proc/asound/modules file
Left the kernel line as is with "acpi=off" present
Sound works.
Removed "acpi=off" from kernel line.
Sound stops working.
Added "acpi=auto" to kernel line.
Still no sound.
Replaced "acpi=off" to kernel line.
Sound works.

2007-06-23
(See Adept Manager Package Change Log this date)
Change "acpi=off" to "apm=on" in kernel line
Restart.
No sound.
Change "apm=on" to "apm=off"
Restart.
No Sound.
Change "apm=off" to "acpi=off"
Restart.
Sound works.
Add "apm=on" to kernel line (keeping "acpi=off")
Restart.
Sound still works (no APM in System Tray)
Stop apcid from running on boot.
Restart.
Sound still works (no APM in System Tray)
Remove "acpi=off" from kernel line (keeping "apm=on")
Restart.
No sound (APM in System Tray)
Remove "apm=on" from kernel line.
Restart.
No sound (APM in System Tray)
Readd "acpi=off" to kernel line.
Restart.
Sound works (no APM in System Tray)
##
Restart.
Sound works

2007-06-30
Change "acpi=off" to "acpi=force"
Restart.
No sound (APM in System Tray)
Change back to "acpi=off"
Restart.
Sound works (no APM in System Tray)

2007-08-01
Remove "acpi=off' from kernel line
Add options snd-hda-intel model=3stack to /etc/modprobe.d/alasa-base
Retart.
No sound. Undo changes.

2007-08-05
Replace "acpi=off" from kernel line with "noacpi"
Restart.
No sound. Undo changes.

2007-09-18
Replace "acpi=off" from kernel line with "pci=noacpi"
http://sidux.com/index.php?name=PNph...t=toshiba+p105
No working sound. APM is back.
Undo change.

[juantovarm]

Re: Painfully slow boot up times

Thanks snowhog, but what are the downsides of using "acpi=off"?

[Snowhog]

Re: Painfully slow boot up times

In my case, it disables APM (Advanced Power Management) so I don't have my battery monitor. But as I use my laptop almost exclusively from home, and on AC power, I don't care. I wanted sound.

[tuxulin-nox]

Re: Painfully slow boot up times

Hi all
juantovarm, as you already know my latop is a toshiba L30- 149
here is a few bits to try and some references

ALSA Mixer reports
---------------------
Card: HDA ATI SB
Chip: Realtek ALC861-VD
View: [Playback] Capture All
Item: PCM [dB gain=0.00, 0.00]

lspci in BASH reports
Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01)
-------------------------------------------

at the bottom of "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base"
try these lines of codes.

options snd-cmipci mpu_port=0x330 fm_port=0x388
options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba probe_mask=1
options snd_hda_intel model=uniwill-m31

the above lines of code plays nicely in the headphones only. while i was using debain lenny
i had a one liner code that enabled the speakers as well but i forgot to save
that "alsa-base" file and so it is lost.
the only thing i can remember was that it ended with the word "auto" at the end
of the line. im currently trying to see if i can find that code again if and when i do
find it ill repost it here.

also on the L30 series the "apci=off" have no effect on enabling or disabling sound

thanks
TN