I write this as a comment on my experiences with gutsy, and as a bit of advice to the Kubuntu community. I have been enjoying Ubuntu and Kubuntu since I converted from Suse.
Unlike the upgrade from Dapper to feisty, the upgrade to gutsy has turned in to a colossal mess. Using the recommended Adept upgrade procedure, after approximately 5 (I lost track during the 2 1/2 days it consumed.) runs through the upgrade procedure, and several sessions with apt-get, some things appear to run.
Starting from a fully successful multimedia and networked configuration of Feisty....
The first think that happened is that I was dumped back to the command line.
The Samba configuration and connection to the Internet worked fine.
By reverting to vesa drivers, and after installing the Nvidia proprietary drivers and re-installing the Nvidia utilities I was able start X and configure the system to get back to Twinview. By completely reconfiguring the system using the Nvidia utilities.
By downloading and recompiling the VirtualBox kernal drivers, I was once again able to run my virtual windows session to enable critical windows applications.
After re-installing alsa and the alsa utilities, I succeeded in getting the sound to work, although at this point I don't remember how.. After getting the sound to work, mp3 playback worked.
Using the feisty guide, and a lot of Googling, I succeeded in getting Lirc working again. (Although still not a well as prior to the upgrade. The remote still will not start Mythtv.)
MythTv is still not cooperating on live TV, will play previous recording though. This problem seems to be with my pvr150 not being detected. Therefore Ivtv does not load.
After reinstalling and using Automatix to install the dvd playing stuff, the system hangs when attempting to play a dvd in Kaffeine. I have not successfully corrected this, though it worked flawlessly under Feisty.
I can say that every single custom setting that I managed to get working in Edgy was broken or erased after the so called upgrade to Gutsy. So far I have seen NO advantage to the user in this upgrade. I still have a broken system and a long way to go.
After three plus days of fighting with this, I am fed up. This is worse that the so called upgrades to OS/2 that involved going through 53 floppies, twice.
Canonical should review their policies, and develop some respect for the effort put in by their user base to configure their product. Perhaps a 6 month release schedule is not realistic. Starting over from the beginning is not a viable option for everyone every time. As a former IT specialist, I could not in good conscience recommend this to anyone.
As a person who has been trying to convert to Linux since 1995. This version of Kubuntu is NOT ready for release. It is almost, but not quite enough to make me go back to M$ Vista. At least Vista home premium and basic mostly work (at a price).
If this is the best work that can be accomplished by the Linux community, you are a LONG way from competitive with M$. I understand that there will be problems, but a complete breakdown in what is supposed to be an upgrade is unacceptable.
I for one would appreciate documentation that is not written to be opaque, obfuscate, confuse, and completely prevent understanding by normal human beings. Flames, RTFM, and obfuscation is not going to get a place in the market, although perhaps in the Bizarre.
HP m7750n
AMD Athlon 64X2 5200+
2 gb memory
Nvidia Geforce 7100 GS
Hauppauge PVR-150
After several days Googling and re-booting, I believe I have tamed the beast. I tried Compiz-Fusion, and I now understand why it is not loaded by default. I guess I really don't need eye candy that bad. What I found out mostly is that the upgrade is very buggy, the documentation is sketchy at best, but once running it is nice.
Maybe next time will be the trick...
btw: Adept is still convinced that there is a new distro upgrade available... asig...
Unlike the upgrade from Dapper to feisty, the upgrade to gutsy has turned in to a colossal mess. Using the recommended Adept upgrade procedure, after approximately 5 (I lost track during the 2 1/2 days it consumed.) runs through the upgrade procedure, and several sessions with apt-get, some things appear to run.
Starting from a fully successful multimedia and networked configuration of Feisty....
The first think that happened is that I was dumped back to the command line.
The Samba configuration and connection to the Internet worked fine.
By reverting to vesa drivers, and after installing the Nvidia proprietary drivers and re-installing the Nvidia utilities I was able start X and configure the system to get back to Twinview. By completely reconfiguring the system using the Nvidia utilities.
By downloading and recompiling the VirtualBox kernal drivers, I was once again able to run my virtual windows session to enable critical windows applications.
After re-installing alsa and the alsa utilities, I succeeded in getting the sound to work, although at this point I don't remember how.. After getting the sound to work, mp3 playback worked.
Using the feisty guide, and a lot of Googling, I succeeded in getting Lirc working again. (Although still not a well as prior to the upgrade. The remote still will not start Mythtv.)
MythTv is still not cooperating on live TV, will play previous recording though. This problem seems to be with my pvr150 not being detected. Therefore Ivtv does not load.
After reinstalling and using Automatix to install the dvd playing stuff, the system hangs when attempting to play a dvd in Kaffeine. I have not successfully corrected this, though it worked flawlessly under Feisty.
I can say that every single custom setting that I managed to get working in Edgy was broken or erased after the so called upgrade to Gutsy. So far I have seen NO advantage to the user in this upgrade. I still have a broken system and a long way to go.
After three plus days of fighting with this, I am fed up. This is worse that the so called upgrades to OS/2 that involved going through 53 floppies, twice.
Canonical should review their policies, and develop some respect for the effort put in by their user base to configure their product. Perhaps a 6 month release schedule is not realistic. Starting over from the beginning is not a viable option for everyone every time. As a former IT specialist, I could not in good conscience recommend this to anyone.
As a person who has been trying to convert to Linux since 1995. This version of Kubuntu is NOT ready for release. It is almost, but not quite enough to make me go back to M$ Vista. At least Vista home premium and basic mostly work (at a price).
If this is the best work that can be accomplished by the Linux community, you are a LONG way from competitive with M$. I understand that there will be problems, but a complete breakdown in what is supposed to be an upgrade is unacceptable.
I for one would appreciate documentation that is not written to be opaque, obfuscate, confuse, and completely prevent understanding by normal human beings. Flames, RTFM, and obfuscation is not going to get a place in the market, although perhaps in the Bizarre.
HP m7750n
AMD Athlon 64X2 5200+
2 gb memory
Nvidia Geforce 7100 GS
Hauppauge PVR-150
After several days Googling and re-booting, I believe I have tamed the beast. I tried Compiz-Fusion, and I now understand why it is not loaded by default. I guess I really don't need eye candy that bad. What I found out mostly is that the upgrade is very buggy, the documentation is sketchy at best, but once running it is nice.
Maybe next time will be the trick...
btw: Adept is still convinced that there is a new distro upgrade available... asig...
or for a bit less a top of the range mac.
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