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    Better Multi user support, GRUB fix

    1. There needs to be a GRUB GUI!!! The GRUB interface (not boot menu, but configuration) is totally convoluted as it stands, and it would be no challenge for someone with moderate python/QT knowledge to create a GUI frontend for it.

    2. Multi User support is bad. I don't want my users to have admin rights by default nor should they be able to reboot the entire system.
    At the same time, it should be possible for common users to install a limited number of preapproved programs from adept or apt-get without a password. Maybe a "user" tag on the .debs? I shouldn't have to install every game they decide they have to have on their system, and they shouldn't have to request it.
    Also, when I am in a common users session, I should be able to use my admin rights to read/write/execute as I see fit (some sort of user overide?), although I don't see how sudo would be able to do this.

    3. *.* TTY12 in syslog.conf. It's usefull, it doesn't take much resources, and the newbies/novices who would benefit from a message log screen won't have the skills to set it up themselves (for the record it's echo '*.* /dev/tty12' >> /etc/syslog.conf to set it up).
    While on the subject separate user logs would be a wonderful addition... Maybe a var/log/user/*/ with a ~/log/ symlink? Of course the var/log/user folder would have to be no read/write access for common users.

    4. During startup a key (TAB, CTRL-S, whatever) that will kill the pretty loader and show me the boot process in real time. I know, I can dmesg after boot up, but I'm sitting there anyway, and I would like to see if any problems come up as they happen, not after I notice some service isn't working quite right.

    I'm sure there is other niggles I have, but I can't remember off the top of my head. Really, I love Kubuntu! It is by far the best distro I have come across, and edgy is super clean, almost no issues on upgrade. I am impressed enough to promote it to my non-geek friends.

    #2
    Re: Better Multi user support, GRUB fix

    1. I second that wholeheartedly.
    4. Also seconded.
    Once your problem is solved please mark the topic of the first post as SOLVED so others know and can benefit from your experience! / FAQ

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      #3
      Re: Better Multi user support, GRUB fix

      Originally posted by jsnipe
      1. There needs to be a GRUB GUI!!! The GRUB interface (not boot menu, but configuration) is totally convoluted as it stands, and it would be no challenge for someone with moderate python/QT knowledge to create a GUI frontend for it.
      That would be a nice addition, possibly 'steal' it from MEPIS :P

      2. Multi User support is bad. I don't want my users to have admin rights by default nor should they be able to reboot the entire system.
      By default, only the user created on installation gets admin rights. For subsequent users, you have to spesifically add them to the 'admin' group

      3. *.* TTY12 in syslog.conf. It's usefull, it doesn't take much resources, and the newbies/novices who would benefit from a message log screen won't have the skills to set it up themselves (for the record it's echo '*.* /dev/tty12' >> /etc/syslog.conf to set it up).
      Hmm...non-advanced users are probably better off using ksystemlog (which enables to switch between different logs and allows scrolling the logs and opening older logs).

      4. During startup a key (TAB, CTRL-S, whatever) that will kill the pretty loader and show me the boot process in real time. I know, I can dmesg after boot up, but I'm sitting there anyway, and I would like to see if any problems come up as they happen, not after I notice some service isn't working quite right.
      Switching to VT1 (Ctrl+Alt+F1) should show the boot process messages

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        #4
        Re: Better Multi user support, GRUB fix

        [quote=kubicle ]
        Originally posted by jsnipe

        4. During startup a key (TAB, CTRL-S, whatever) that will kill the pretty loader and show me the boot process in real time. I know, I can dmesg after boot up, but I'm sitting there anyway, and I would like to see if any problems come up as they happen, not after I notice some service isn't working quite right.
        Switching to VT1 (Ctrl+Alt+F1) should show the boot process messages
        Nope, not really kubicle, just tried that.

        And thanks for your clarification on point 2 - I was thinking that, hadn't tried it though.
        Once your problem is solved please mark the topic of the first post as SOLVED so others know and can benefit from your experience! / FAQ

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          #5
          Re: Better Multi user support, GRUB fix

          Originally posted by toad
          Originally posted by kubicle

          4. During startup a key (TAB, CTRL-S, whatever) that will kill the pretty loader and show me the boot process in real time. I know, I can dmesg after boot up, but I'm sitting there anyway, and I would like to see if any problems come up as they happen, not after I notice some service isn't working quite right.
          Switching to VT1 (Ctrl+Alt+F1) should show the boot process messages
          Nope, not really kubicle, just tried that.
          It works on my feisty systems, though I remember this might depend on the kubuntu version, you could try other VTs (from 1 to 8 ), to see if the messages come up.

          You can also remove the 'splash' option from the grub boot options to disable splash (and show the boot messages)

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            #6
            Re: Better Multi user support, GRUB fix

            Originally posted by kubicle
            Switching to VT1 (Ctrl+Alt+F1) should show the boot process messages
            if i understand you correctly, i can explain why that didn't work for toad. its cuz its ALT+F2 (left ALT) to show the boot process.
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              #7
              Re: Better Multi user support, GRUB fix

              After 07.04 killed my usb2 support and the generic kernel kept on eating all my ram I switched to Debian 4.0 - those were the last of my problems, completely happy now incl. start-up. Thanks for your tips anyway!
              Once your problem is solved please mark the topic of the first post as SOLVED so others know and can benefit from your experience! / FAQ

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                #8
                Re: Better Multi user support, GRUB fix

                maybe you have a weird mobo (and hence ram) that isn't too common so it can't be tested very easily with the kernel.
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