Feature request: Black - not white - on yellow PLEASE!

[integr8e]

Please incorporate a feature that the text on the yellow popup tooltips will remain black; I have a dark theme on my computer and have the normal text color set to white, which doesn't show up very well on a light yellow background.

[Fenyx]

Re: Feature request: Black - not white - on yellow PLEASE!

Actually it's the tooltip background that needs to be configurable. The tooltip text uses the same color as normal text (I think) that can be set from System Settings/KControl.

On the other hand, the tooltip background color is something hardcoded in the widget style that is being used (System Settings -> Appearance -> Style). So the ability to change tooltip colors depends on the style being used.

I know of only one widget style that allows this: Domino
http://www.kde-look.org/content/show...?content=42804

[integr8e]

Re: Feature request: Black - not white - on yellow PLEASE!

I've tried adjusting the tooltip color in Domino (I use the Kore theme) to black; it works on a few applications, but most still show my default text color (I know because I've experimented by changing the default text color).

[thedevilsjester]

Re: Feature request: Black - not white - on yellow PLEASE!

You are assuming that all apps themes are controled by KDE. KDE only controls QT themes. If you change a setting in KDE, only QT based apps will be effected. Qt apps are like Konquerer, Kopete, KTorrent, (most QT apps start with a K).

These is a KDE module that lets you use the same QT theme for GTK apps. Common GTK apps are Firefox, gaim/pidgin, gimp. Usually you have to change the settings in this module separately from the QT settings.

And not all Widget sets are themeable. QT and GTK are, but some like FOX (which I use for all my development) are not themeable so no matter what you do, it wont change them.

[integr8e]

Re: Feature request: Black - not white - on yellow PLEASE!

How would I go about getting "These"? I've searched all over the internet and cannot find it.

I've done a lot of work customizing my computer, and have found that most of my GTK apps do adopt the same theme and color scheme as my KDE apps, including Firefox, even though I've unchecked the "Apply colors to non-KDE applications" button within System Settings (in hopes of getting the tooltips to display black text); I've also set the tooltip color to black in Domino's configuration. In Firefox, I've messed with themes and its color settings, unchecked the "use system colors" option, set the default text color to black, and it still tries to use my system colors sometimes (I'm not dissing Firefox, I love and prefer it over every other web browser I've ever used, and this bug only occurs "sometimes").

My problem is that half of my apps display black text in their tooltips (as they're configured to do), and the others use my color scheme. I know they use my color scheme because I've experimented by changing my default text color, and they ALWAYS adopt that color (no matter whether it's white, red, blue, black, purple, . . . whatever). If I leave the text color where I can read it in Kate, I can't read the text in the tooltips (those that use my default font color); if I change the color to one which I can read in the tooltips, it neither looks good with my color scheme nor is it easily legible.

One might suggest just changing to a light color scheme, however, I've done some extensive customizing with my system, like it the way it is (minus the tooltips), and DEFINITELY DO NOT WANT TO HAVE TO RECONFIGURE EVERYTHING I'VE DONE (it would take weeks [might be slightly over-exaggerated, but makes my point]). I just wish that there was a way to configure all tooltips to use a unified font color, I mean, if I can't change the color of the tooltips themselves, why is the font color variable?

[thedevilsjester]

Re: Feature request: Black - not white - on yellow PLEASE!

Well again it will only effect GTK and QT apps, other toolkits may need to be reconfigured manually if possible, and even then its all up to the app itself to actually use these colors.

I have noticed that the GTK using QT themes is buggy. I use Anjuta and the text colors are often wrong and sometimes dont update like they should.

[integr8e]

Re: Feature request: Black - not white - on yellow PLEASE!

That makes since, thank you. I'm guessing somebody, somewhere is working on this issue, and I'll survive until they get it fixed. It's not critical, it would just be nice to be able to see what a feature I am unfamiliar with does.

[Fenyx]

Re: Feature request: Black - not white - on yellow PLEASE!

Just a bit of clarifcation:

KDE (widget) styles/themes are only followed by KDE apps natively. Qt apps use different styles. And so do GTK+ apps.

For Qt apps, you can control their appearance using an app called qtconfig (there's one each for Qt3 and Qt4). Qt4 has a built in style called Plastique, which looks a lot like KDE's Plastik.

For GTK+ apps (GTK2 only), there is a widget style engine called gtk-qt-engine. What this GTK style basically does is to try as hard as it can to emulate your current KDE style. It's not perfect though. There are some features of some KDE styles (like transparencies) that don't work at all. But it at least resembles a KDE app. This style engine is installed by default in Kubuntu and can be seen in System Settings -> Appearance -> GTK Style and Fonts.

(An alternative to that is to use a similar style that is native to both KDE and GTK, and the only one I know that is like that is QtCurve).

integr8e: What I meant earlier with Domino is that tooltips will still use your default text color, but you can change the tooltip background color so that you can see the text.

[integr8e]

Re: Feature request: Black - not white - on yellow PLEASE!

After a good bit of messing around with my theme, I discovered qtcurve fixes the problem I was having with the inconsistency between the qt and gtk tooltips; so far that is the only one I've used that allows for this correction. I'm running Domino with my KDE apps and qtcurve with my GNOME; thanks for all the help you gave me and for sticking with me through all my aggravation, I couldn't have done it without you

Note: I no longer consider this a feature request