Desktop Effect Option

[EMoShunz]

Have desktop effects (possibly the new compiz/beryl merge) enabled by default, or at least easily selectable during install.

[disturbedite]

Re: Desktop Effect Option

actually, if you had read mark shuttleworth's gutsy announcement you'd have seen that he said it (compiz/beryl) will probably not be the default window manager by the time gutsy is released.

he said that he made the mistake of making the decision to do that with the last two (iirc) ubuntu releases and won't make that mistake again.

in other words, according to him (who makes the decisions), it won't be most likely, but he didn't rule it out of possibility entirely.

[Fintan]

Re: Desktop Effect Option

I don't think beryl/compiz is ready for that just yet. It's nice and even great in some things but very guggy on others.

I would like to see metisse It looks great and works.

Just my 2c

[EMoShunz]

Re: Desktop Effect Option

I was just reading the release notes for Gutsy Tribe 2. For Ubuntu, Compiz Fusion is now installed by default, not so for Kubuntu. I know KWin is supposed to support compositing by default now in KDE4, so why no Compiz Fusion in Kubuntu, as even an option?!?!

[GANDOLF]

Re: Desktop Effect Option

Probably because Kubuntu is still slave to ubuntu.

Above and beyond that gutsy is still in a beta phase that has other concerns to deal with.

Don't worry 3 months down the road we will have a great and beautiful new distro.

[EMoShunz]

Re: Desktop Effect Option

so, does compiz have gtk dependencies or something, even still, what a frustration.

[javierrivera]

Re: Desktop Effect Option

As you said KDE 4 kwin supports most of the compiz effects. You should be able to install compiz from the repos, but the reasonable default option to me is Kwin.

BTW, kwin is quite more mature and support quite a lot more "corner" cases than compiz/beryl.

And finally, yes, compiz has a couple of gnome dependencies. Beryl is more desktop independent.I don't know what compiz fuzion policy will be.

Javier.

[EMoShunz]

Re: Desktop Effect Option

is there an easy way to put kde4 onto gutsy so i can use kwin's compositing?

[javierrivera]

Re: Desktop Effect Option

No one that I'm aware of. But we have a couple of vague promises .

Javier.

[EMoShunz]

Re: Desktop Effect Option

just want to update this thread. Tribe 3 has been very uplifting, faily simple install of compiz and kde4. I am trying to install kde4 right now, can't do compiz as i am running vm, but the packages installed just fine.