su password "not"

[CWBillow]

Since this is a home install, I use the same password for everything in Kubuntu, so it's strange that doesn't work, but it doesn't.

I was denied access to root.

Is there a way to reset or change the root password?

Chuck Billow

[integr8e]

Re: su password "not"

There is a way change the root password, but I cannot think of the method to do so at the moment (I'm currently in front of a Window$ pc). I'll check and post the method in a few hours after I get home if somebody doesn't beat me to it.

This may sound stupid, but looking at your subject line, if your trying to use 'su' to run commands as root in Kubuntu, you won't have much luck (I'm not sure what the deal is, but it asks you for a password that seemingly doesn't exist, and as such, rejects your every attempt to guess it); you have to use the 'sudo' command.

Edit: Actually, check out this link.

I'll see how you're doing in a little while when I'm in front of my home computer

[eriefisher]

Re: su password "not"

For root access you would preceded the command with sudo. EG:

sudo (command)
password

For graphical programs use kdesu. If it is a root terminal you want then type:

sudo su
password

Hope this helps

eriefisher

[CWBillow]

Re: su password "not"

But is there a way to change or reset the actual root password? ...

Or, I just had a memory of something sometime back:

Can I even GET to root directly, or MUST I go through sudo?

Chuck

[CWBillow]

Re: su password "not"

For root access you would preceded the command with sudo. EG:

sudo (command)
password

For graphical programs use kdesu. If it is a root terminal you want then type:

sudo su
password

Hope this helps

eriefisher

Yea, that's right... thanks.

[SheeEttin]

Re: su password "not"

To become root, a "sudo -s" works fine.

If you wanted to actually set the root password for whatever reason (better to leave it as through sudo), become root and say "passwd".

[CWBillow]

Re: su password "not"

To become root, a "sudo -s" works fine.

If you wanted to actually set the root password for whatever reason (better to leave it as through sudo), become root and say "passwd".

Thanks...

But if it won't let me into root to start with?

[CWBillow]

Re: su password "not"

Indeed, Ubuntu does by default not have a root account.
The theory is added safety, a hacker would now for example not only have to discover the password for root but as well the user name, an added barrier.
And it prevents people accidentally doing all kinds of things in an unsafe manner as the sudo command stays valid for only about 1 minute after exiting the application that required it.
Plus it's only assigned to the one application, not the whole system.

Indeed, Ubuntu does by default not have a root account.
The theory is added safety, a hacker would now for example not only have to discover the password for root but as well the user name, an added barrier.
And it prevents people accidentally doing all kinds of things in an unsafe manner as the sudo command stays valid for only about 1 minute after exiting the application that required it.
Plus it's only assigned to the one application, not the whole system.

I grok the good intentions... but is there a cure for my malaise, or am I doomed to re-install"

Chuck

[dibl]

Re: su password "not"

Chuck, it sounds like you're laboring under assumptions brought forward from Unix or something -- no?

If for some reason you need a root prompt, do

sudo su

at your user prompt, put in your password, and POOOF! you're the root user. Prompt changes from $ to # and that's it -- you're in.

Will your system not let you do this?

[eriefisher]

Re: su password "not"

Use the same password that you use to log into your system.

eriefisher

[CWBillow]

Re: su password "not"

Use the same password that you use to log into your system.

eriefisher

My system is standalone, single-user - me.

I use the same password, every time, and it won't take it. Not with su -, not with sudo.

Chuck

[SheeEttin]

Re: su password "not"

And you're using the password you use to log in to your system?
Hmm...

[CWBillow]

Re: su password "not"

And you're using the password you use to log in to your system?
Hmm...

Yup. Same one...

[dibl]

Re: su password "not"

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Well, it sounds like, for reasons unknown, you are down to 2 choices.

1. Reinstall (and pay close attention to that new password!).

2. Make a little research project out of the sudoers file and visudo, the special-purpose editor that is used to edit it. But I'm not sure you can use visudo if you don't have a valid password to start with (that's why it's a research project...) :P

This link may or may not help -- Mr. Google found it for me: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14366

[CWBillow]

Re: su password "not"

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Well, it sounds like, for reasons unknown, you are down to 2 choices.

1. Reinstall (and pay close attention to that new password!).

2. Make a little research project out of the sudoers file and visudo, the special-purpose editor that is used to edit it. But I'm not sure you can use visudo if you don't have a valid password to start with (that's why it's a research project...) :P

This link may or may not help -- Mr. Google found it for me: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14366

I was afraind of that... well it's not the end of the world...

I don't have to worry about remembering the stinking thing, I only have to watch the inital set up...

But the damn thing was working to start with - once, and then kicked me out... Oh well, I needed something to do anyway...

Thanks anyway, guys.
Chuck