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    Kubuntu Installation on an Existing Dual-Boot

    Presently I have Win98SE & Red Hat 8.0 as a dual boot on a 20 gig hard drive. I would like to replace Red Hat with Kubuntu 7.04.

    When I run the installation disk, the partitioning section shows "radio buttons" selected as follows -

    Guided - Use Entire Disk
    IDE slave (hdb)
    10.2 GB Maxtor 5TO1OH1

    This is not the entire disk this is only one of the two partitions I originally created. BUT, I'm not sure which one.

    Is this the Windows partition or the Red Hat partition ?? If I go ahead with the installation, will I end up with a "dual-boot" of Kubuntu & Windows OR Kubuntu & Red Hat

    Need some expert advice.
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    Re: Kubuntu Installation on an Existing Dual-Boot

    Open a console shell and type:
    Code:
    df -h -T & pg /etc/fstab
    Copy and paste the results in your reply and we can tell you which is what.
    Windows no longer obstructs my view.
    Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
    "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes​
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      #3
      Re: Kubuntu Installation on an Existing Dual-Boot

      Yeah, and then I’d use that information in the Manual partitioning method in the Desktop installer.
      (It will automatically put GRUB in the MBR (hd0) of that drive. -- That is shown in Step 6 of the Manual method, behind the Advanced button at lower right)

      To get an idea how the dual boot will go, you can scan the first few cases of this:

      How To GRUB Methods - Toolkit
      http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3081671.0


      Your Red Hat partition, so it seems, will be called sda2 (or hda2) (and in GRUB it's called (hd0,1)), as it is. Assuming Windows is on the first partition of your drive.
      An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski
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        Re: Kubuntu Installation on an Existing Dual-Boot

        Thanks for responses, this is what I got.

        [oldbob@localhost oldbob]$ df -h -T&pg /etc/stab
        [1] 1030
        Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted
        /dev/hdb3 ext3 3.5G 1.4G 1.9G 41% /
        /dev/hdb2 ext3 99M 9.2M 84M 10% /boot
        none tmpfs 251M 0 250M 0% /dev/shm
        bash: pg command not found
        [1] Done df -h -T
        [oldbob@localhost oldbob]$

        Note: This is "copied" - Couldn't get Copy & Paste to work.

        And yes, Win98SE is on front partition and Red Hat on the back.
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          Re: Kubuntu Installation on an Existing Dual-Boot

          Originally posted by oldbob
          Thanks for responses, this is what I got.

          [oldbob@localhost oldbob]$ df -h -T&pg /etc/stab
          You didn't type in the command correctly. You need the space between the T and pg so you have it looking like I posted:
          Code:
          df -h -T & pg /etc/stab
          The spaces before and after the & are required. Please try again. The simplest thing to do, is to copy the code above and paste it into a console shell.
          Windows no longer obstructs my view.
          Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
          "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes​
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            Re: Kubuntu Installation on an Existing Dual-Boot

            Snowhog,

            I ran the command with the spaces -

            df -h -T & pg /etc/stab

            and got exactly the same results.

            I don't know enough about Linux commands to comment. What results were you expecting ?

            For some reason (?) after I high-lite the Terminal text and "right click" on it, Red Hat does not give me the "Copy" option. So I can't figure out how to post a copy.
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              Re: Kubuntu Installation on an Existing Dual-Boot

              Okay. Thought you were running *ubuntu. My bad. :P

              The command 'strings' two commands for execution, one after the other. The pg (for page) would list the contents of your /etc/fstab file. It appears that Red Hat Linux doesn't support that command, at least, within the shell you are funning. That's okay. What I'm wanting to see (for review) is your /etc/fstab file. You can open Konqueror and change to /etc and right-click the fstab file and choose to view it or open it with Kate. You can then copy the contents and paste here in your reply.
              Windows no longer obstructs my view.
              Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
              "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes​
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                Re: Kubuntu Installation on an Existing Dual-Boot

                Snowhog,

                F.Y.I. - I have an old [6.04] version of Ubuntu. I ran installation up to partitioning and got the following:

                • /dev/hdb IDE1 slave (hdb) 10.2GB Master
                /dev/sda SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) 512MB Sandisk Cruzer Micro

                To me, this is much more obvious that I'm looking at the Red Hat partition. Kubuntu probably won't acknowledge Win98SE is there until it gets to the bootloader. I would feel safe to install Kubuntu here.

                Note: I have a flash drive plugged into my desktop.

                I will try and post the content of RH's /etc/fstab file.

                P.S. I thought the only difference between Ubuntu & Kubuntu was the desktop "GNOME vs KDE".
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                  Re: Kubuntu Installation on an Existing Dual-Boot

                  Originally posted by oldbob
                  P.S. I thought the only difference between Ubuntu & Kubuntu was the desktop "GNOME vs KDE".
                  Basically, that is correct (as I understand things). The underlying kernel is the same, although either 'flavor' could have modules compiled within the kernel that are specific to the Gnome and KDE version.

                  As to your observation of where Win98SE is, you are most likely correct. /dev/hdb is the 'second' partion on your IDE HD. Win98SE would be on the 'first' partition (/dev/hda).
                  Windows no longer obstructs my view.
                  Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
                  "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes​
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                    Re: Kubuntu Installation on an Existing Dual-Boot

                    Snowhog,

                    This is a copy of the RH fstab file - I hope !!!

                    LABEL=/ / ext3 defaults 1 1
                    LABEL=/boot /boot ext3 defaults 1 2
                    none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0
                    none /proc proc defaults 0 0
                    none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
                    /dev/hdb5 swap swap defaults 0 0
                    /dev/cdrom1 /mnt/cdrom1 iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0
                    /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner,kudzu 0 0
                    /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0

                    It worked !!! You should have seen what I went through.

                    1) Booted Red Hat and copied fstab to a floppy.
                    My "primary" Linux OS is PClinuxOS and I can't get floppy drive to mount - Yet!!
                    2) Used Win98SE to copy fstab from floppy to flash drive.
                    3) Booted PClinuxOS [where I am now] and opened flash drive to copy fstab file.
                    4) Opened browser to Kubuntu forum and am now posting copy of fstab.

                    Reason for swapping Red Hat for Kubuntu.
                    1) Mouse scroll wheel inop with RH - a real pain I can't seem to fix.
                    2) The majority of "newbies" seem to be going Ubuntu/Kubuntu route.
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                      Re: Kubuntu Installation on an Existing Dual-Boot

                      So it isn't true what they say. You can teach an "oldbob" new tricks.
                      Windows no longer obstructs my view.
                      Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
                      "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes​
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                        Re: Kubuntu Installation on an Existing Dual-Boot

                        Snowhog,

                        I'll tell you. my 76 year old brain was "sweating" !!!

                        A little history:

                        I have two computers and six functioning operating systems

                        A "refurbished" T-21 Thinkpad with dual-boot of Win98SE & PClinuxOS.

                        A "home-built" [about 7 years ago] tower with a Trios HD switcher and three hard drives.

                        1) Original 40 gig HD with Win98SE.
                        2) Dual-boot 20 gig HD with backup copy of Win98SE & Red Hat 8.0.
                        3) "Test Bed" 10 gig HD currently with PClinuxOS.

                        In closing, Thanks for your interest and help.
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                          Re: Kubuntu Installation on an Existing Dual-Boot

                          You're welcome. Plenty of members in the Forum who are willing (and often able ) to help someone out.
                          Windows no longer obstructs my view.
                          Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
                          "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes​
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