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**Qqmike** · Oct 19, 2007, 12:00 PM

Re: Boot/Grub issue

Puzzling. A device string is anything that refers to a device—a hard drive, a partition, a path for such.
Error 11 indicates that GRUB doesn’t like the syntax (using the filesystem you’ve used for Ubuntu).
The only lines that could cause this are three: the root, the kernel, and the initrd lines of the Ubuntu boot stanza:

title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
root (hd1,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=e0f09388-71b3-42be-8b1c-4d8fe3c9fd19 ro quiet splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
quiet

I’m assuming that you are able to boot Kubuntu and Windows.

The UUID must be correct because the older kernel line has the same. Besides, if that were not correct in /etc/fstab, I think you’d get an error like the disk does not exist or something similar.

I don’t see a syntax error or misspelling or a period that should be a comma or etc. in these parts:
/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic
/boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
or in
root (hd1,0).

I presume that /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic does actually exist, but even if it didn’t, I don’t think you get Error 11 (you’d get another “can’t find device/file” or “no such device/file.”).

Maybe someone else can see it. I’ll think about it.

In the meantime, I would copy that boot stanza (just those 5 lines for the new Ubuntu), save it somewhere safe (say in OOo Writer .odt), and then re-type it manually back into /boot/grub/menu.lst, same location, making sure you allow for spaces (eg after root, after each part of the kernel line), typing carefully, save (after you edit as root), exit, and re-boot to test it.

Your Windows entry looks right, and it boots, and device.map looks consistent with everything else.

I just don’t see anything wrong with your strings there; maybe I’m looking too hard. It looks the same as the lines of the old Ubuntu kernel, which, as you say, does boot.

**Qqmike** · Oct 19, 2007, 12:10 PM

Re: Boot/Grub issue

Make sure you have spaces between everything.

Check your Windows entry too, spaces between (hd2) and (hd0), etc.

**dibl** · Oct 19, 2007, 12:13 PM

Re: Boot/Grub issue

The device lines do look correctly-formed, as far as I can see, but I'm curious about the location of that /boot directory that you are using, and the sequence that I observe in your file. Questions:

1. Are both your Linux kernels in the same /boot directory? If not, why set them up with /boot directories separate from the rest of their root filesystems? If so, then the UUID is wrong for one of the versions, I would think -- if it's one "consolidated" boot directory, then only one UUID should appear.

2. 7.10 being newer than 7.04, one would think it was the last Linux installed, which would put it "above the line". But you have the older one first, and 7.10 below the "Debian Automagic Kernels" line -- is that intentional? What was the sequence of installation?

{ scratching my head, like Qqmike! }

**Snowhog** · Oct 19, 2007, 12:36 PM

Re: Boot/Grub issue

Seems to me, that some assumptions are/have been made regarding the problem at hand. As no one yet has asked, I will.

technoidiot - you said you are triple-booting, with Kubuntu, Ubuntu, and XP "on separate drives." What type of setup

Are you running a desktop PC or laptop? If a desktop, are all the drives internal, or are any of them external? If external, how are they connected - USB or

If a laptop, are the other two (unless your laptop had two internal drives) connected via USB??

**technoidiot** · Oct 19, 2007, 12:52 PM

Re: Boot/Grub issue

Not sure about the location of the boot directory

? It came from my grub file on the Kubuntu install.

Here is my current configuration:

IDE drive - Kubuntu install one partition full drive
SATA drive #1 - Ubuntu 7.10 one partition full drive
SATA drive #2 - XP

Was only a SATA system then wanted to learn Linux. Tried different ones on second SATA drive. Ended up with Ubuntu 7.04 but couldn't get wireless working. Installed IDE drive put Kubuntu on it and got wireless up and going. Decided to upgrade Ubuntu to learn and work on wireless issue. Still no wireless on that system but want to get boot issue fixed first.

Primary reason for setting up this way is I can unplug a drive and not worry about losing other systems or files, etc. As I said I can boot into the older kernel.

BTW I did do a grub reconfiguration in the event I did mistype something and the listing is the result. This reconfiguration was done by the Kubuntu system.

I was thinking maybe I have to issue a map line on the Ubuntu 7.10 section? Not sure if that would help or hinder?

The reason the 7.10 is below the older 7.04 is they are separate drives. No matter how I have tried to change the BIOS it boots the first IDE drive which is the older system.

My setup is a desktop with all internal drives. One IDE drive and two SATA drives. (still have room for one more IDE drive) They are connected by either IDE or SATA cables.

**Qqmike** · Oct 19, 2007, 01:08 PM

Re: Boot/Grub issue

Well, Error 11 is a syntax error.
So, how about the syntax?

Other possibility is that GRUB is trying to read a Linux system when in fact there’s Windows there (or the other way).

BIOS is set to boot from (hd0) – right?

You might try to re-install GRUB to (hd0).
You can also use the GRUB geometry command to verify exactly what OS is on what drive:
How To GRUB Methods - Toolkit
http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3081671.0

What gets me is the older Ubuntu kernel does boot, and it is on the same drive as the newer kernel.
Suggests a syntax error – make sure the spaces are there, the periods are not commas, etc.
Re-type it by hand.

EDIT:
BTW, it's bad news mixing IDE & SATA for the GRUB bootloader--things can get complicated or confusing. However, the geometry command along with re-installing GRUB usually takes care of all that stuff--knowing exactly where everything is, and manually ensuring that GRUB is installed where you want it to be installed.

**technoidiot** · Oct 19, 2007, 01:21 PM

Re: Boot/Grub issue

I figured the syntax was incorrect also and rechecked then had the GRUB fix link so I followed the instructions to fix the GRUB menu. Still got the same error. BIOS is set to boot from (hd0). Going to get geometry and post is after I have run and (read) the How To.

Will also retype by hand, then I'll be back with all the results.

This has me stumped as the boot operation was fine prior to the upgrade of Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10.

**Qqmike** · Oct 19, 2007, 01:24 PM

Re: Boot/Grub issue

I read of a case where such an update caused a syntax error like this.

**Qqmike** · Oct 19, 2007, 01:27 PM

Re: Boot/Grub issue

Here,

get into Kubuntu or Ubuntu.
At Konsole, type
sudo grub
press Enter
get the grub> prompt
type geometry (hd<press the TAB key>
(no closed ) )that returns your drives
explore each one now as follows:
grub> geometry (hd0)
grub> geometry (hd1)
grub > geometry (hd2)
hopefully, you will be able to confirm what is on each drive, just to be sure here that Windows didn't get swapped with a Linux drive.

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