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    Kubuntu Feisty 7.04 Freeze after "Starting up ..."

    Hi, need some guidance with this problem please. I'll gladly provide any needed information to help fix this.

    The problem

    Kubuntu completely freezes my computer whenever I switch on the machine. The freeze happens after the grub menu passes, and I see the text Starting up ..., and then freezes. It locks up hard enough that I must reset the computer to force reboot. After the reset the computer boots to my desktop normally. If I switch off the machine, it will lock up the same way next time I switch it on.

    What I've done

    After power on I quickly press ESCape to see the grub menu. Then I choose to edit the kernel line Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.20-16-generic. From the kernel line I delete quiet splash so I can see the boot messages. Then I command it to boot. The last message displayed before the machine locks up is:
    [ 16.443267] NET: Registered protocol family 2 (The numbers in square brackets change every time.)

    Searched the Kubuntuforums on error message, didn't find any fix.

    Googled for Kubuntu "NET: Registered protocol faimily 2". The 12,300 hits all seem to result from people posting their logs, not really helping my problem.

    Posted this message in Kubuntuforums ( ) and in VirtualBox end user forums ( http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?p=3983#3983 ).

    Possibly needed information

    I am running Kubuntu inside VirtualBox 1.4.0 ( http://www.virtualbox.org/ ), and it is the virutual machine which locks up. The physical host is my HP Pavilion dv8135nr Notebook running Windows XP Media Center SP2. The virtual machine with Kubuntu guest is configured as:
    • OS Type Linux 2.6
    • 512 MB base memory
    • 32 MB video memory
    • ACPI Enabled
    • IO APIC Disabled
    • 16 GB primary master
    • Network Adapter 0 NAT
    • USB Controller Disabled


    Code:
    uname -rvmpi
    2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 20:19:32 UTC 2007 i686 unknown unknown
    
    grep "protocol family 2" /var/log/* | awk -F ":" '{ print $1 }' | sort -u
    /var/log/dmesg
    /var/log/dmesg.0
    /var/log/kern.log
    /var/log/kern.log.0
    /var/log/messages
    /var/log/messages.0
    /var/log/syslog
    /var/log/syslog.0
    
    df -h
    Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
    /dev/hda1 16G  3.1G 12G  22%  /
    varrun    189M 108K 189M 1%   /var/run
    varlock    189M 0   189M 0%   /var/lock
    udev     189M 64K 189M 1%   /dev
    devshm   189M 0    189M 0%   /dev/shm
    lrm       189M 33M  156M 18%  /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/volatile
    Sorry if this is too much of the wrong information. Don't know exactly how to proceed from here. Can anyone please help?
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    #2
    Re: Kubuntu Feisty 7.04 Freeze after "Starting up ..."

    You are in Windows, running Virtualbox to run Kubuntu... is this correct?
    If so, why not install it the traditional way? God knows what happens in emulations.

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      #3
      Re: Kubuntu Feisty 7.04 Freeze after "Starting up ..."

      Originally posted by DMurray
      You are in Windows, running Virtualbox to run Kubuntu... is this correct?
      If so, why not install it the traditional way? God knows what happens in emulations.
      Yes, as explained in the original post, I am running Kubuntu on Virtualbox on Windows.

      I haven't installed Kubuntu on my primary computer because I'm not ready. Kubuntu and I are still getting to know each other, and I don't yet know enough about Linux to care for my Kubuntu properly. The fact that I don't know how to solve this problem, and must ask for help, should be evidence enough of my unreadiness.

      I keep important data on my primary computer. I'm not willing to risk loosing such important data because of some mishap such as an update going sour. It's a relatively simple thing for me to backup the hard drive of my virtual machine and recover it to a new installation.

      Anyway, I'm slowly moving my computing activities away from Bill's World, and towards the Free World. The time will come soon enough when I can accomplish all my daily computing tasks without Bill Ware.

      Thanks for your reply. Anyone else?
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        #4
        Re: Kubuntu Feisty 7.04 Freeze after "Starting up ..."

        Originally posted by Telengard
        I haven't installed Kubuntu on my primary computer because I'm not ready. Kubuntu and I are still getting to know each other, and I don't yet know enough about Linux to care for my Kubuntu properly. The fact that I don't know how to solve this problem, and must ask for help, should be evidence enough of my unreadiness.
        I'm doing exactly the same (but with VMware) with all new Linuces I lay my hands on (at present: serveral versions of Debian, (K)Ubuntu and Mepis ...).

        As for your original problem: I'd (too) suspect ACPI of being the culprit ... I've even (purge-) removed all ACPI packages from most of my virtual machines to make them behave better.

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          #5
          Re: Kubuntu Feisty 7.04 Freeze after "Starting up ..."

          Originally posted by UnicornRider
          As for your original problem: I'd (too) suspect ACPI of being the culprit ... I've even (purge-) removed all ACPI packages from most of my virtual machines to make them behave better.
          Do you think I should disable ACPI in the VM settings? That would probably be the same as disabling ACPI in the BIOS. Doing such a thing on an existing Windows install would cause problems. How did you "(purge-) removed" ACPI?

          Thanks for your reply.
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            #6
            Re: Kubuntu Feisty 7.04 Freeze after "Starting up ..."

            Originally posted by Telengard
            Do you think I should disable ACPI in the VM settings?
            Please, don't ask me about VirtualBox - I'm not gonna touch it :P

            I would, however, refrain from touching the host system and/or the VM application itself unless need by; I'd rather start by tweaking the guest / virtual machine, not least to limit risks ...

            Originally posted by Telengard
            How did you "(purge-) removed" ACPI?
            Code:
            ROOT@FEISTY # apt-get --purge remove acpid

            Prior to that, however, I'd reboot the guest system with acpi=off as additional boot option (thus replacing "quiet splash" for one turn) to see if it would make any difference at all ...

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              #7
              Re: Kubuntu Feisty 7.04 Freeze after "Starting up ..."

              Originally posted by UnicornRider
              Code:
              ROOT@FEISTY # apt-get --purge remove acpid
              Prior to that, however, I'd reboot the guest system with acpi=off as additional boot option (thus replacing "quiet splash" for one turn) to see if it would make any difference at all ...
              I have followed your advice. I tried the acpi=off boot option. The system still freezes in exactly the same manner I described above. What should I try next?
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                #8
                Re: Kubuntu Feisty 7.04 Freeze after "Starting up ..."

                This may be because even if your VMWare is not using ACPI, your hosting system is (Windows), that's because it's not the same effect as disabling in BIOS, which would cause any OS to not use it.
                Not trying to push you into installing Linux on your HD right away, but just clarifying that emulated stuff not always go as expected. If you are a player of game consoles in Windows, you are aware of that: there are ROMS that play on some emus and some that don't play at all.
                Did you try another distro?

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                  #9
                  Re: Kubuntu Feisty 7.04 Freeze after "Starting up ..."

                  Originally posted by DMurray
                  This may be because even if your VMWare is not using ACPI, your hosting system is (Windows), that's because it's not the same effect as disabling in BIOS, which would cause any OS to not use it.
                  Not trying to push you into installing Linux on your HD right away, but just clarifying that emulated stuff not always go as expected. If you are a player of game consoles in Windows, you are aware of that: there are ROMS that play on some emus and some that don't play at all.
                  Did you try another distro?
                  Yes there are subtle differences between emulation and virtualization. An example of this is the fact that guest OS under Virtualbox can see my notebook's battery and power status. That is not something you'd ever have in a pure emulator, unless the emulator was relating the status of a fictional battery (which would be kinda dumb). In a virtualizer, the VM is granted managed (limited) access to my computer's physical hardware.

                  I accept your statement that disabling ACPI in the virtualzer program may not be the same thing as disabling ACPI in the VM's BIOS. If that is the case, then I wonder what it really does do from the perspective of the guest OS. Since acpi=off in the boot options didn't solve my problem, I'm persuaded to think that ACPI is not the cause.

                  I have not tried another distro. When the time comes for me to wipe my hd clean of Windows, I hope Kubuntu will be me new OS.
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