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    eliminating splash screens and eliminating kdm for logins?

    well. *that* was exciting. just disabled kdm in the "services" applet, got the "maybe loss of data" are-you-crazy message, and kde promptly died and would not come back. went over to a virtual console and screwed around a little and employed dep's second rule of linux: i dunno, i just did some stuff and then it worked. (dep's first rule of linux is from the old days -- any configuration, large or small takes nine hours.) but i digress . . .

    in the old and happy days, there was a file called /etc/inittab. you could edit it to bring about, for instance, a default runlevel 3 -- console, multi-user mode -- (equivalent to runlevel 2 in debian). one could then login at a text-mode login prompt and, if one so chose, type "startx" to go to the window manager and desktop of one's choice. kdm was easily circumvented.

    i would much like to do this, but /etc/inittab is gone. i would also like to be rid of the startup screens and the like (in part because all kubuntu does is throw an error in the log saying that it couldn't do the 1600x1200 splash screen, etc., so it's a black screen throughout boot, and in part because i *like* to see the system boot).

    somewhere there must be a recipe for this, even as there is a way to establish a root password -- needed, by the way, for at least some kubuntu-supplied configuration tools! -- but i cannot find it. if anyone knows its whereabouts, i'd be much obliged. i do not disparage those who like it to be graphical from the get-go; i am just not among them.

    thanks!

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    Re: eliminating splash screens and eliminating kdm for logins?

    If you don't want the splash screen, and you want to see the boot process, remove from the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst "quiet" and "splash"
    Windows no longer obstructs my view.
    Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
    "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes

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      #3
      Re: eliminating splash screens and eliminating kdm for logins?

      many thanks. now . . . about getting rid of the graphical login?

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        #4
        Re: eliminating splash screens and eliminating kdm for logins?

        Well, you can always select the second or fourth menu boot items. Both will boot the system and leave you at the CLI login. Basically, you are booting into single user mode with these two choices. The difference is the kernel version.
        Windows no longer obstructs my view.
        Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
        "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes

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          #5
          Re: eliminating splash screens and eliminating kdm for logins?

          Or

          How to disable a graphical login prompt?
          http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=61061

          Booting in to the command prompt
          http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/page/2/
          Before you edit, BACKUP !

          Why there are dead links ?
          1. Thread: Please explain how to access old kubuntu forum posts
          2. Thread: Lost Information

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            #6
            Re: eliminating splash screens and eliminating kdm for logins?

            Originally posted by dep
            /etc/inittab is gone
            "Ripped apart" would be more precise, since it's contents has been moved to several files in /etc/event.d (- it's Ubuntu, therefore it's supposed to be different, isn't it ...).

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              #7
              Re: eliminating splash screens and eliminating kdm for logins?

              thanks, though the graphical login disable described isn't exactly what i was seeking -- it lets one go to a login prompt and exit xorg.conf, then re-enable the graphical login and start x. (dunno why anyone would go to the trouble of that -- alt-ctrl-f2 will do it without any additional commands, all the time.) instead, i want permanently to circumvent the graphical login manager and boot to a console screen, where i can login and then, if i want, type startx to start x and kde. i didn't like kdm in kde-1.0, and i don't like it now!

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                #8
                Re: eliminating splash screens and eliminating kdm for logins?

                any special reason /etc/inittab was eliminated? it seemed to work pretty well, for a long, long time. wheels are round for a reason.<g>

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                  #9
                  Re: eliminating splash screens and eliminating kdm for logins?

                  I disable login by going through the system settings / advanced tab / login manager and in the 'convenience' tab enable 'auto login'

                  Sorry if I've misunderstood what you are trying to achieve!

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                    #10
                    Re: eliminating splash screens and eliminating kdm for logins?

                    again, what i'm trying to do is log in at a nice text-based prompt after the system has booted into runlevel 2 (i believe it's 2 for debian systems, 3 for other distributions). to make starting x entirely optional, and brought about by a post-login commant (typically "startx"). don't want to see a graphical anything until that command is typed and enter is hit. in other linuces it is a matter of editing /etc/inittab and changing the default runlevel from 5 to 3 (or in this case, i believe, 2).

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                      #11
                      Re: eliminating splash screens and eliminating kdm for logins?

                      Originally posted by dep
                      thanks, though the graphical login disable described isn't exactly what i was seeking --
                      If you choose either of the two identified recover modes you will get what you want - you will be booted into the OS in single user mode and presented with the prompt. No graphical anything. Do what you want/need. Start the X session or not as needed.
                      Windows no longer obstructs my view.
                      Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
                      "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes

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                        #12
                        Re: eliminating splash screens and eliminating kdm for logins?

                        Originally posted by dep
                        wheels are round for a reason
                        Not in the canonical world :P

                        The official reasoning (as far as I have understood it): the "event.d" approach is more flexible than the "inittab" one.

                        (Further ranting, er, reading)

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                          #13
                          Re: eliminating splash screens and eliminating kdm for logins?

                          Originally posted by dep
                          again, what i'm trying to do is log in at a nice text-based prompt after the system has booted into runlevel 2 (i believe it's 2 for debian systems, 3 for other distributions). to make starting x entirely optional, and brought about by a post-login commant (typically "startx"). don't want to see a graphical anything until that command is typed and enter is hit. in other linuces it is a matter of editing /etc/inittab and changing the default runlevel from 5 to 3 (or in this case, i believe, 2).
                          If you wish to disable graphical login for (default) runlevel, go to the system services kcontrol module...and for the runlevels you wish uncheck "Start During Boot" (don't stop the service, as I think you did the first time?)

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                            #14
                            Re: eliminating splash screens and eliminating kdm for logins?

                            [quote=UnicornRider ]

                            The official reasoning (as far as I have understood it): the "event.d" approach is more flexible than the "inittab" one.

                            [eoq]

                            aha! i thought i smelled ibm! that fickle corporation has traveled from place to place, distributing the stench of death to all it touches. (xywrite, OS/2 and all the people it talked into writing OS/2 apps, lotus . . .)

                            what is especially hilarious is that this is in the name of "quick booting." only at ibm could a boot that takes twice as long (and believe me, on this machine, coming from suse 10, it *does* take twice as long) would this be thought of as faster.

                            ibm. end times are near.

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                              #15
                              Re: eliminating splash screens and eliminating kdm for logins?

                              just to clarify the above: the part after [eoq] was mine.

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