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**Uber Nooblett** · Sep 24, 2007, 06:00 PM

Re: Boot issue (Probably 8800GTS related)

I also have an 8800 GTS 640mb and I have had no issues.

Yes, the screen goes blank for a while, but if you wait a while it will load up the login screen (as long as you have installed the drivers correctly).
The screens are meant to switch off, I found this disconcerting myself when I first began, but it is perfectly normal. Sometimes it will be that way for a few minutes (every 22 boots it checks hard disks). Keep an eye on your hdd light and switch on your speakers (you will hear a pop as the card is initialised and sound gets to speakers). The first time you load into KDE takes the longest as it is detecting all your components and setting up the relevant drivers. Patience is all that is needed

good luck

JJ

**dibl** · Sep 24, 2007, 06:01 PM

Re: Boot issue (Probably 8800GTS related)

Hmmmmmmmm. I was going to say "your xorg.conf doesn't match your story", but that doesn't sound very nice, does it? :P

OK, let's try this -- your xorg.conf shows the "nv" driver on "video0", which sounds like a result of the xserver-xorg reconfiguration script, rather than the Envy proprietary driver installation. But if I understood your narrative, the Envy script installation was your latest attempt to install a driver.

? hmmmmm

OK, I'll assume that Envy actually didn't actually install the proprietary driver. Get out of the GUI with Ctrl-Alt-F1, log in, and give it

Code:

sudo envy -t

This will start Envy in text mode. Follow the prompts to "install" the driver, including the final one which is to restart the xserver.

If that happens to work, let us know and I'll try to help you do the rest of the configuration.

**Dallas** · Sep 24, 2007, 06:09 PM

Re: Boot issue (Probably 8800GTS related)

Originally posted by dibl

Hmmmmmmmm. I was going to say "your xorg.conf doesn't match your story", but that doesn't sound very nice, does it? :P

OK, let's try this -- your xorg.conf shows the "nv" driver on "video0", which sounds like a result of the xserver-xorg reconfiguration script, rather than the Envy proprietary driver installation. But if I understood your narrative, the Envy script installation was your latest attempt to install a driver.

? hmmmmm

OK, I'll assume that Envy actually didn't actually install the proprietary driver. Get out of the GUI with Ctrl-Alt-F1, log in, and give it

Code:

sudo envy -t

This will start Envy in text mode. Follow the prompts to "install" the driver, including the final one which is to restart the xserver.

If that happens to work, let us know and I'll try to help you do the rest of the configuration.

Please keep in mind, I can't "sudo" because I'm already root in recovery mode. I can't bootup normally at all. You did mention running ENVY outside of the gui, which I had not done. Here is the xorg.conf after.

Code:

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig: version 1.0 (buildmeister@builder26) Wed Sep 12 14:29:17 PDT 2007

# nvidia-settings: X configuration file generated by nvidia-settings
# nvidia-settings: version 1.0 (buildmeister@builder26) Wed Sep 12 14:29:53 PDT 2007

Section "ServerLayout"
  Identifier   "Layout0"
  Screen   0 "Screen0" 0 0
  InputDevice  "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
  InputDevice  "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "Files"
  RgbPath     "/usr/lib/X11/rgb"
EndSection

Section "Module"
  Load      "extmod"
  Load      "type1"
  Load      "freetype"
  Load      "glx"
  Load      "v4l"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

 # generated from default
  Identifier   "Mouse0"
  Driver     "mouse"
  Option     "Protocol" "auto"
  Option     "Device" "/dev/psaux"
  Option     "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
  Option     "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

 # generated from default
  Identifier   "Keyboard0"
  Driver     "kbd"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
  Identifier   "Monitor0"
  VendorName   "Unknown"
  ModelName   "DELL 2007WFP"
  Gamma      1
  ModeLine    "640x480@60" 25.2 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync
  ModeLine    "640x480@72" 31.5 640 664 704 832 480 489 491 520 -hsync -vsync
  ModeLine    "640x480@75" 31.5 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync
  ModeLine    "800x600@56" 36.0 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync
  ModeLine    "800x600@72" 50.0 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync
  ModeLine    "800x600@75" 49.5 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync
  ModeLine    "800x600@60" 40.0 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync
  ModeLine    "832x624@75" 57.3 832 864 928 1152 624 625 628 667 -hsync -vsync
  ModeLine    "1024x768@75" 78.8 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync
  ModeLine    "1024x768@70" 75.0 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync
  ModeLine    "1024x768@60" 65.0 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync
  ModeLine    "1152x864@75" 108.0 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync
  ModeLine    "1280x1024@75" 135.0 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
  ModeLine    "1280x960@60" 102.1 1280 1360 1496 1712 960 961 964 994 -hsync +vsync
  ModeLine    "1280x1024@60" 108.0 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
  ModeLine    "1280x960@75" 129.9 1280 1368 1504 1728 960 961 964 1002 -hsync +vsync
  ModeLine    "1400x1050@60" 122.6 1400 1488 1640 1880 1050 1051 1054 1087 -hsync +vsync
  ModeLine    "1400x1050@75" 155.8 1400 1496 1648 1896 1050 1051 1054 1096 -hsync +vsync
  ModeLine    "1600x1200@65" 175.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
  ModeLine    "1600x1200@60" 162.0 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
  ModeLine    "1792x1344@60" 204.8 1792 1920 2120 2448 1344 1345 1348 1394 -hsync +vsync
EndSection

Section "Device"
  Identifier   "Videocard0"
  Driver     "nvidia"
  BoardName   "nv"
  Screen     0
EndSection

Section "Screen"
  Identifier   "Screen0"
  Device     "Videocard0"
  Monitor    "Monitor0"
  DefaultDepth  24
  Option     "TwinView" "0"
  Option     "metamodes" "1680x1050 +0+0; 1024x768 +0+0; 800x600 +0+0; 640x480 +0+0"
  SubSection   "Display"
    Virtual   1792 1344
    Depth    24
 
  EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
  Option     "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection

The only difference I see is the Bus ID was removed from the "device". Also the before and after driver mention "nvidia" not nv.

Also, restarted the X server (In recovery mode) and it worked, like it was working before. But when I rebooted to just boot normally, just a blank black screen without a cursor. The monitor is not going into sleep mode, but I'm not seeing any HD action or beeping of the sound.

**dibl** · Sep 24, 2007, 06:20 PM

Re: Boot issue (Probably 8800GTS related)

Meh. Not much changed ... well, OK, now we know one thing not to do. It's disconcerting that your chip appears not to be recognized. Here's the "Device" section of my xorg.conf, so you can see what I mean:

Code:

Section "Device"
  Identifier   "Videocard0"
  Driver     "nvidia"
  VendorName   "NVIDIA Corporation"
  BoardName   "GeForce 7900 GS"
EndSection

As root, you can also run the nvidia-settings utility. But you need the x server running. Did it start the xserver at the end of the Envy script?

If so, open the konsole and enter

Code:

nvidia-settings

, open the "X Server Display Configuration" tab, and tell us what the driver version says, please.

**Dallas** · Sep 24, 2007, 06:23 PM

Re: Boot issue (Probably 8800GTS related)

Originally posted by dibl

Meh. Not much changed ... well, OK, now we know one thing not to do. It's disconcerting that your chip appears not to be recognized. Here's the "Device" section of my xorg.conf, so you can see what I mean:

Code:

Section "Device"
  Identifier   "Videocard0"
  Driver     "nvidia"
  VendorName   "NVIDIA Corporation"
  BoardName   "GeForce 7900 GS"
EndSection

As root, you can also run the nvidia-settings utility. But you need the x server running. Did it start the xserver at the end of the Envy script?

If so, open the konsole and enter

Code:

nvidia-settings

, open the "X Server Display Configuration" tab, and tell us what the driver version says, please.

It actually didn't restart the xserver, it gives me a bunch of errors, I believe they were ENVY related though, and not system related, X Server Display Conf coming up....

**Dallas** · Sep 24, 2007, 06:28 PM

Re: Boot issue (Probably 8800GTS related)

When I open X Server Display Configuration, there isn't a driver present anywhere on that screen

I see, Layout, then Display, then X Screen. Thats it

Under X Server Information, it mentions NVIDIA Driver Version: 100.14.19

**SheeEttin** · Sep 24, 2007, 06:31 PM

Re: Boot issue (Probably 8800GTS related)

Mind posting the errors?

(Also, minor note: "sudo" as root is fine. No harm. It just doesn't do anything (i.e. just executes the command).)

Oh, and would you mind attaching, rather than posting, your xorg.conf? You're stretching the page, and it makes it hard to read.

**dibl** · Sep 24, 2007, 06:34 PM

Re: Boot issue (Probably 8800GTS related)

OK, I just had a momentary break from senility and I think I know what your problem is.

You're running Feisty, and I think Envy is installing the NEXT to latest version driver (or trying to). On that 8800, you need THE LATEST driver, version -100.14.19, if I'm not mistaken.

Sooooooooo, I've got good news, and the other news.

The good news is, you can go to Nvidia's web site here and download the -100.14.19 driver, and they have reasonable generic installation instructions.

The other news is, some of the fine points of installing it that way aren't obvious for the *buntu noob. The best I can give you, I think, is to invite you to review the driver installation process as described for the Feisty version on Alberto Milone's site here

I've done it a few times -- the more times you go through the process, the easier it gets, so don't despair if the first time through doesn't quite get you there. As soon as he updates Envy for Feisty with that latest driver, you'll be able to use Envy and forget about the 1-2-3 process.

Good luck -- let us know how you fare!

p.s. I'm jealous of that 8800!

**Dallas** · Sep 24, 2007, 06:38 PM

Re: Boot issue (Probably 8800GTS related)

Originally posted by dibl

You're running Feisty, and I think Envy is installing the NEXT to latest version driver (or trying to). On that 8800, you need THE LATEST driver, version -100.14.19, if I'm not mistaken.

According to the Nvidia Control panel, I am running the 100.14.19.

Also, if I try running the Nvidia installer, it gives me a warning about running in "runlevel 1" and it fails on me.

**dibl** · Sep 24, 2007, 06:45 PM

Re: Boot issue (Probably 8800GTS related)

Hmmmmm, well that's the one you need. I was reviewing the postings on this thread:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...ht=nvidia+8800

But I don't see anything obvious that you don't have or haven't done. :P

Have you been updating when new kernel headers came out? I think Envy should pull those down -- I'm not totally sure about that. Other than that, I'm about out of gas on things to try, other than to jettison Envy and try the Nvidia download file. :P Sorry I don't have anything more elegant for you. I'm running both Gutsy and Feisty 64-bit, and Envy loads up the driver for my 7900GS perfectly, so I guess I'll count my blessings!

**Dallas** · Sep 24, 2007, 06:48 PM

Re: Boot issue (Probably 8800GTS related)

All right, ran the Nvidia installer and was sucsessful this time. Restarted the X server and came back into the GUI. I am now attempting to boot linux into the normal mode and it seems to be hung once again at a black screen and not doing a thing. Monitor is on, keyboard is on but not responding to any input I give it.

Unless this isn't an issue with the VideoCard. But I'm not seeing ANYTHING load even after I took out the quiet option from the GRUB menu. So it seems it is loading nothing?

EDIT: Well I may not have removed the correct quiet from the grub startup. I'll see if I get any errors.
EDIT2: Well I get it to boot, I do see alot of stuff flying across the screen, then it blanks out and I don't see where it blanked out =(.

**dibl** · Sep 24, 2007, 07:20 PM

Re: Boot issue (Probably 8800GTS related)

And Alt-F1 doesn't take you to a console login screen?

**Dallas** · Sep 24, 2007, 07:22 PM

Re: Boot issue (Probably 8800GTS related)

Originally posted by dibl

And Alt-F1 doesn't take you to a console login screen?

I can never get that to work. I've been watching the boot up via the numbers, and the last I see is 30.35 then it blanks out.

I greped /var/log/messages for 30.35 and it returns.

ACPI: bus type pci registered. But I'm not really seeing any errors.

**SheeEttin** · Sep 24, 2007, 07:25 PM

Re: Boot issue (Probably 8800GTS related)

Hmm.
If the numbering is any indication (I have no idea what the numbers mean), that should be about where your graphics drivers are initialized... (Looking at dmesg here, fglrx gets initialized at 37.600429 (at least this boot)).

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