Audio CD insertion causes crash/freeze, need help!

[nitewing98]

I used to use Ubuntu and Rhythmbox, but have switched to Kubuntu and Amarok. All is well with my old music, but when I insert a new CD to rip, the system comes up with a dialog box saying it is copying from source media:hdc to somewhere in /var/tmp....etc.

This dialog stays up for a minute then the mouse locks up and the whole system freezes.

Can anyone explain what is happening or what to do to fix it?

[dibl]

Re: Audio CD insertion causes crash/freeze, need help!

A quick check in Adept shows Rhythmbox available to install on my Kubuntu system. Why change what works for you?

[nitewing98]

Re: Audio CD insertion causes crash/freeze, need help!

Well, I might agree. But I still have the system crashing when I insert a CD, and it really doesn't matter what music player I use if I can't add music!

(edit: I just noticed that the Control Center also doesn't have CDDB! How do I add support for Audio CD track lookup to the Control Center?)

[dibl]

Re: Audio CD insertion causes crash/freeze, need help!

If you will run Amarok from a konsole window, with

amarok

and then proceed with your ripping adventure, the Amarok crash or error output should appear in the konsole. It might point toward the source of the problem.

Also, post the CD ROM line from your /etc/fstab file, in case there's anything strange about it.

[nitewing98]

Re: Audio CD insertion causes crash/freeze, need help!

Amarok doesn't have a chance to crash, it's coming (I think) from the OS itself. Here is the entire fstab:

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# /dev/hdb1 -- converted during upgrade to edgy
UUID=73165175-ad57-4007-a690-4accc60180ce / ext3 nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1
# /dev/hdb5 -- converted during upgrade to edgy
UUID=1f7fe25f-6787-48a4-90c7-335d12d5bdcf none swap sw 0 0
/dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 auto user,atime,noauto,ro,dev,exec,suid 0 0
# /dev/hda1 -- converted during upgrade to edgy
UUID=1D40-07EB /Win98 vfat iocharset=utf8,umask=000,uid=0,gid=0,auto,rw,nouse r 0 0
# added to mount user directory
/dev/hdb3 /home ext3 nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1

[Snowhog]

Re: Audio CD insertion causes crash/freeze, need help!

I'm not sure that your entry for the cdrom is correct. This is my entry:

/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0

Your entry of:

/dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 auto user,atime,noauto,ro,dev,exec,suid 0 0

Did you modify your fstab to change the cdrom entry, or has it always looked like this? I'd bet, that if you change it to look like this:

/dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0

you won't have any problems.

As always, make a backup of your file before you make changes.

[nitewing98]

Re: Audio CD insertion causes crash/freeze, need help!

Thanks, I'll try that. The drive is a DVD-ROM also, will those changes hurt the dvd functions?

[Snowhog]

Re: Audio CD insertion causes crash/freeze, need help!

No. Mine is also a CD/DVD read/write drive. Works just fine.

[dibl]

Re: Audio CD insertion causes crash/freeze, need help!

Here's mine (Asus CD/DVD drive):

/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0

[Snowhog]

Re: Audio CD insertion causes crash/freeze, need help!

Here's mine (Asus CD/DVD drive):

/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0

So nitewing98's entry of
/dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 auto user,atime,noauto,ro,dev,exec,suid 0 0

differs from yours, in that the cdrom misidentified as a hard drive (/dev/hdc), is missing the file type (udf,iso9660) and is set as read-only (ro).

What does the atime do, and why the additional options dev and exec? As you see by my entry, I don't have those, and my CD/DVD works just fine.

[dibl]

Re: Audio CD insertion causes crash/freeze, need help!

Wellllllllllllll, funny that you should ask. According to Linus Torvalds, "Atime updates are by far the biggest IO performance deficiency that Linux has today. Getting rid of atime updates would give us more everyday Linux performance than all the pagecache speedups of the past 10 years, combined"

http://kerneltrap.org/node/14148

According to more conventional definitions, "atime" = "access time" = the time when the data of a file was last accessed

I saw a post by Unicorn Rider in past 48 hours where he suggested that some of the options like "atime" and "exec" and "dev" could just as easily be dropped. I'm inclined to respect his advice on that.

[Snowhog]

Re: Audio CD insertion causes crash/freeze, need help!

Thank you for the 'education.'

Then, as my fstab entry for my cdrom is what it is 'by default', and yours is not, would that be because you started your venture into Linux 'earlier' than I did, with an earlier release, or did you modify your fstab entry to add these options?

[dibl]

Re: Audio CD insertion causes crash/freeze, need help!

Hmmm, I'm not sure. You would not believe the things that I have done to torture this system, while informing myself about the ins and outs of Linux. My full /etc/fstab file may give you a clue:

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# -- This file has been automatically generated by ntfs-config -- 
#
# <file system> <mount point>  <type> <options>    <dump> <pass>
# Entry for /dev/sdb2 :
UUID=84445218-c1c0-41fc-9616-2c92a5a348d5 / reiserfs nouser,notail,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1
# Entry for /dev/sdb3 :
UUID=788345ee-79d6-4298-bca3-e5b6f02f6a68 /home reiserfs nouser,defaults,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 2
# Entry for /dev/sda1 :
UUID=2db802ca-39f5-41f3-bcff-f23e9139a24e /media/sda1 reiserfs nouser,defaults,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 2
# Entry for /dev/sda3 :
UUID=4157eb7a-7a16-4ce7-8774-06f247c61dc6 /media/sda3 reiserfs nouser,defaults,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 2
# Entry for /dev/sdb1 :
UUID=8000EEFB00EEF6D6 /media/sdb1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
# /dev/sdc1
UUID=d86128f3-f840-42c5-ad86-3ab72095e98f /media/sdc1 reiserfs nouser,defaults,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 2
# Entry for /dev/sdd1 :
UUID=5c75276d-48e9-4705-a19c-94210edf8c2a /media/sdd1 reiserfs nouser,defaults,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 2
# Entry for /dev/sdd3 :
UUID=9b7658da-59e1-4b2b-a4b9-fa3ee11b68cf /media/sdd3 reiserfs nouser,defaults,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 2
# Entry for /dev/sdd2 :
UUID=f9c52547-7ede-4e39-b35c-ce764f290de6 none swap sw 0 0
/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
<device> /media/cdrom0 auto nouser,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/dev/sde1 /media/sde1 reiserfs nouser,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
/dev/sde2 /media/sde2 reiserfs nouser,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
/dev/sde3 /media/sde3 reiserfs nouser,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0

Is that sucker a mess, or what?

It's probably a minor miracle that I can burn a DVD at all!

[Snowhog]

Re: Audio CD insertion causes crash/freeze, need help!

<device> /media/cdrom0 auto nouser,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0

That actually works? Specifically, using <device> instead of /dev/scd0 ?

[SheeEttin]

Re: Audio CD insertion causes crash/freeze, need help!

I originally installed Dapper here, mine's the same as dibl's and nitewing's. (Well, originally. It's been made to suit.)
I also have a CD-RW drive at /dev/hda, and it works fine. It's an IDE drive. I have a SATA DVD/CD burner at /dev/scd0, and that one works just fine as well.

In other words, there's nothing wrong as far as I can tell. Try dibl's suggestion of Amarok from a console.

And during writing, I see two new posts... The <device> line was probably added by the Disk & Filesystems module, a really bad piece of work. It's probably deemed invalid and ignored. Hopefully. If not, it could cause problems. I'd at least comment it out.