1680x1050 damn you!

[Yushatak]

I've been using Kubuntu ever since I first tried it as my one and only *nix. I was previously an SuSE, then FreeBSD user, along with trying a few others but not staying on them long.

Anyway, I've done stuff with Kubuntu for a while, including getting full-on Beryl on my ATI Radeon 9600 Mobile laptop, messing with wine, etc. So I'm not a total nubkake.

I've got two *nix desktops:
Pentium D 3ghz
2GB Corsair Value (PC3200?)
ATI Radeon X1800XTX Crossfire Ready (512MB)
(Gaming/serving *nix desktop)

Pentium III 714Mhz (OC from 650, lol! )
512MB RAM
Integrated (Unknown Brand) 64MB Video
(Torrenting and Media *nix desktop)

I've got countless PCs, but these two are for *nix.

Anyway these are both having the same problem. Both of them work fine with CRTS, and both of them work fine with my monitor. With Kubuntu, they both detect my monitor as what it is (FPD2275W by Gateway, 22" HD 1680x1050 native). The entries in xorg.conf are proper, and show the correct resolution detected, etc. However, the system will not run at it, and the configuration in the GUI for KDE only goes up to 1400x1050 (notably squished). The weaker PC was hooked up to the monitor via VGA and wouldn't work, and the other is via DVI. This shouldn't make a difference as Windows has done both ports at the proper res. before. Anyway, This is seriously beginning to piss me off as nobody online seems to have the same problem, though similar. I even tried that intel 915resolution tool, but no go cuz I'm not running intel integrated (maybe the smaller desktop is, but that is less important than the ATI).

root@Ravenheart:~# xresprobe ati
id: FPD2275W
res: 1680x1050 1440x1440 1400x1050 1280x1024 1152x864 1024x768 832x624 800x600 720x400 640x480
freq: 31-83 56-76
disptype: crt

Output for xresprobe ati...

root@Ravenheart:~# cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
# /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf(5) manual page.
# (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
#  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "Files"
    FontPath    "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
    FontPath    "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic"
    FontPath    "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
    FontPath    "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
    FontPath    "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
    FontPath    "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
    FontPath    "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
    # path to defoma fonts
    FontPath    "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load  "i2c"
    Load  "bitmap"
    Load  "ddc"
    Load  "dri"
    Load  "extmod"
    Load  "freetype"
    Load  "glx"
    Load  "int10"
    Load  "vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier   "Generic Keyboard"
    Driver     "kbd"
    Option     "CoreKeyboard"
    Option     "XkbRules"   "xorg"
    Option     "XkbModel"   "pc105"
    Option     "XkbLayout"   "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier   "Configured Mouse"
    Driver     "mouse"
    Option     "CorePointer"
    Option     "Device"        "/dev/input/mice"
    Option     "Protocol"       "ImPS/2"
    Option     "ZAxisMapping"     "4 5"
    Option     "Emulate3Buttons"    "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Driver     "wacom"
    Identifier   "stylus"
    Option     "Device"    "/dev/input/wacom"
    Option     "Type"     "stylus"
    Option     "ForceDevice"  "ISDV4"     # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Driver     "wacom"
    Identifier   "eraser"
    Option     "Device"    "/dev/input/wacom"
    Option     "Type"     "eraser"
    Option     "ForceDevice"  "ISDV4"     # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Driver     "wacom"
    Identifier   "cursor"
    Option     "Device"    "/dev/input/wacom"
    Option     "Type"     "cursor"
    Option     "ForceDevice"  "ISDV4"     # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier   "Generic Video Card"
    Driver     "vesa"
    BusID      "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier   "FPD2275W"
    Option     "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier   "Default Screen"
    Device     "Generic Video Card"
    Monitor     "FPD2275W"
    DefaultDepth  24
    SubSection "Display"
        Depth      1
        Modes      "1680x1050" "1440x1440" "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Depth      4
        Modes      "1680x1050" "1440x1440" "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Depth      8
        Modes      "1680x1050" "1440x1440" "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Depth      15
        Modes      "1680x1050" "1440x1440" "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Depth      16
        Modes      "1680x1050" "1440x1440" "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Depth      24
        Modes      "1680x1050"
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier   "Default Layout"
    Screen     "Default Screen"
    InputDevice   "Generic Keyboard"
    InputDevice   "Configured Mouse"
    InputDevice   "stylus"    "SendCoreEvents"
    InputDevice   "cursor"    "SendCoreEvents"
    InputDevice   "eraser"    "SendCoreEvents"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
    Mode  0666
EndSection

My xorg.conf...

I've just noticed that it says I'm running the vesa driver. I don't think that makes a difference, as I've tried the ATI one in the past (and all my tinkering made me have to reinstall eventually... too bad I couldn't get Win9x to boot, it didn't like having 2gb RAM ) Anyway, I'm gonna try changing to official drivers and report back, in the meantime plz help.

[Yushatak]

Re: 1680x1050 damn you!

I tried the ATI driver and tried framebuffer, and it locked up on a Kubuntu loading screen. Unlike before when I had to reinstall, I've figured out how to fix this now... Anyway, still need help.

[SheeEttin]

Re: 1680x1050 damn you!

Which driver did you use? fglrx?
Check the Xorg log (/var/log/Xorg.0.log) for help on that.

As for the bigger problem, I'm not sure what the problem could be. I have it too; M&D isn't showing the top resolution I specified (1280x960). I'm not sure how to tell the X server to use a specific resolution. You could try hitting Ctrl+Alt+Plus and Ctrl+Alt+Minus (plus/minus being the ones on the number pad) to switch resolutions, but it may not show those resolutions.

[Rog131]

Re: 1680x1050 damn you!

VESA (Video Electronics Standards Association) General FAQ:
http://www.vesa.org/FAQ/generalFAQ.htm

Q: Is VESA doing any work on standards that include 16:9 and 16:10?

A: We are currently discussing formats and timings for both 16:9 and 16:10.

1680:1050 = 16:10
1400:1050 = 4:3
1280:960 = 4:3


Driver "ati"
xserver-xorg-video-ati
Opensource

This driver for the X.Org X server (see xserver-xorg for a further description) provides support for the ATI Mach, Rage, Radeon, and FireGL series.

Driver "fglrx"
Proprietary
From repositories: xorg-driver-fglrx (8.34.8 )

Video driver for the ATI Radeon and FireGL graphics accelerators.

This version of the ATI driver officially supports:

* FireGL: V7350, V7300, V7200, V7100, V5200, V5100, V5000, V3400,
V3300, V3200, V3100, X3-256, X3, X2-256, Z1-128, T2-128,
X1-128, X1-256p
* FireMV: 2200 (Single card PCI-e configuration)
* Mobility FireGL: V5000, T2
* Mobility Radeon: X1800, X1600, X1400, X1300, X800, X700, X600, X300,
9800, 9600, 9550, 9500
* Radeon Xpress: 200M series, 1250 IGP, 200 series
* Radeon: X1900, X1800, X1600, X1300, X850, X800, X700, X600, X550,
X300, 9800, 9700, 9600, 9550, 9500

From Ati/AMD - ATI Proprietary Linux x86 Display Driver 8.37.6
http://ati.amd.com/


Links:
Ubuntu Feisty Installation Guide
http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubu...allation_Guide

BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI

Topic: how do u install ATI drivers?
http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3084084

[Yushatak]

Re: 1680x1050 damn you!

For the ctrl+alt++/- nothing happens for me.

I was trying the ATI driver, which caused the kubunbu loading screen halt, and fglrx does this too, apparently. I'm about to try the proprietary one.

Edit: The driver install went smoothly but aticonfig crashes when I try the --initial etc. command line. Wtf...

[Yushatak]

Re: 1680x1050 damn you!

*B*U*M*P*

('soz but I rly need this fixed)

[SheeEttin]

Re: 1680x1050 damn you!

Well, post your xorg.conf (/etc/X11/xorg.conf).

[DMurray]

Re: 1680x1050 damn you!

Yushatak, I use a Gateway FPD2185W, which is 1680x1050, like your monitor. In past times when I used Conectiva 10, the system of course wouldn't detect the monitor (it didn't exist yet) nor it could detect the range of frequencies and resolution, so I manually added a Modeline to the xorg.conf, using GTF to calculate it: gtf 1680 1050 60 -x
Please try the Modeline method, it always works when everything else fails. BTW, I had no problem with Dapper finding my monitor and setting it to the proper resolution, but the autodetect failed for you. I trust in Modeline. Go for it.

[txHarleyMan]

Re: 1680x1050 damn you!

I have the same Gateway FPD2275W monitor and an ATI X600 video card. I booted into recovery mode and ran dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

When the menu appeared I selected ATI and a resolution of 1680x1050

My resolution is decent, but it's not 1680x1050. So I give up on my ATI card. I'm tired of screwing with it. ATI needs to provide some decent Linux drivers. I may just purchase an Nvidia card. All I read about them with Linux is good.

[SheeEttin]

Re: 1680x1050 damn you!

Same here. Next video card I buy is an nVidia.

[DMurray]

Re: 1680x1050 damn you!

You are right about Nvidia being (a lot) better than ATI in Linux, hands down. But one must accept the fact that not all the times the hardware will be autodetected, so it's needed to go the traditional way: the Modelines. It once was this way, autodetect sucked big time, everybody was better off using custom settings to get the most out of the hardware.
Fortunately there are alternate methods in Linux to do the same thing, unlike in Windows, on which you have very little control over what you do with your hardware. Well, it is acceptable for a desktop system widely used, but since you are in Linux, you play under Linux rules.
Just get GTF and let it do the job for you.
Good luck.