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    Adding a second graphics card and re start of X-server

    Just installed a second Graphics card (Voodoo II) and on making the changes in System Settings/ onitor and display, I get asked to Log out and restart X-server from the menu.

    Unfortunately restart X-server does not exist on the Logout menu.
    How do I restart the x server?
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    Re: Adding a second graphics card and re start of X-server

    That question is probably irrevelant. I cant get the second card to show anything.

    I have been trying for about 2 months now to setup linux on a machine to use as music player / presentation machine for this weekend.
    I know I could just use windows XP, and have it working by tonight, but I still have a few days yet to finally get it sorted and if I cant well it is back to Windows again on Friday night.

    Have got network setup, music transfered across, slide shows organised, but just cant get the second screen to work.

    The primary screen is on the AGP slot and I have two other PCI cards, but only need to use one as I am only using two screens.

    BIOS has two settings relating to the AGP slot; AGP as primary or as AUTO.

    In System Settings/Monitor and Display/Hardware tab, all three cards are recognised if I plug them all in.
    The AGP card always shows as having two monitors, I assume one is the normal monitor output, an the other is the TV Out socket (round PS2 type plug).

    When I plug the other two cards (PCI) in, they are recognisedas Voodoo II and S3 Virge.

    I can select one as secondary, and check the dual monitor box on the first page, but nothing ever comes up on the second monitor. Test or apply button then gives messages about configuration not having been tested before and do I want to contuinue, and to restart X-Server. As there is no Restart x-server button, I do a shut down and restart. Go back to the Monitot and display screen, and all settings have defaulted to the normal single screen settings.

    What do I have to do to get this working? what info do you need from me?
    I would hate to have to dump all the work I have done, and you guys have helped me with over the last two or so months and go back to Windows, but it is looking the easier option at the moment.

    Neil
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      #3
      Re: Adding a second graphics card and re start of X-server

      First the minor issue: You need to log out, then choose "Restart X Server" from the login menu. That's where it's hiding. Or, Ctrl+Alt+Backspace will kill and restart X.

      My recommendation would be to stop using the Monitor & Display component of KControl - I've never, ever found it to work even on single-monitor setups. Much easier is to manually edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file - sounds scary but it's actually fairly logical.

      Can you post the contents of your current xorg.conf, along with the output of
      lspci | grep VGA
      ? The former will let us see the current state of play, the latter will show us the PCI bus addresses of your graphics cards. (Even if they're AGP. )

      Just to let you know, I've been running a dual-screen setup for about a year now and was fortunate to get it set up properly (to my liking) in a couple of hours.
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        Re: Adding a second graphics card and re start of X-server

        OK, thanks. I will have to use the Ctrl Alt backspace, the K button, logout, gives 4 options. Log Out, Hibernate, Restart, Turn Off. If I choose Log out from that menu, it logs out then im,mdeiately logs back in again. there is no Restart X Server anywhere.

        xorg conf is here:


        Section "Files"
        FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
        FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic"
        FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
        FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
        FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
        FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
        FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
        # path to defoma fonts
        FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
        EndSection

        Section "Module"
        Load "i2c"
        Load "bitmap"
        Load "ddc"
        Load "dri"
        Load "extmod"
        Load "freetype"
        Load "glx"
        Load "int10"
        Load "vbe"
        EndSection

        Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
        Driver "kbd"
        Option "CoreKeyboard"
        Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
        Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
        Option "XkbLayout" "us"
        EndSection

        Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier "Configured Mouse"
        Driver "mouse"
        Option "CorePointer"
        Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
        Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
        Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
        Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
        EndSection



        Section "Device"
        Identifier "Generic Video Card"
        Driver "vesa"
        BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
        EndSection

        Section "Monitor"
        Identifier "Generic Monitor"
        Option "DPMS"
        HorizSync 28-51
        VertRefresh 43-60
        EndSection

        Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Default Screen"
        Device "Generic Video Card"
        Monitor "Generic Monitor"
        DefaultDepth 24
        SubSection "Display"
        Depth 1
        Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
        Depth 4
        Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
        Depth 8
        Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
        Depth 15
        Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
        Depth 16
        Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
        Depth 24
        Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        EndSection

        Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier "Default Layout"
        Screen "Default Screen"
        InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
        InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
        EndSection

        Section "DRI"
        Mode 0666
        EndSection


        lspci | grep VGA gives :

        neil@Kubuntu:~$ lspci | grep VGA
        01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2)
        02:0a.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86c325 [ViRGE] (rev 05)
        neil@Kubuntu:~$

        Strange that it only shows two graphic cards, even with the three of them inserted and the Monitor & Display component of KControl shows the three cards. The Voodoo II card does not show up using lspci grp VGA
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          Re: Adding a second graphics card and re start of X-server

          Another problem has reared its head. After using the Monitor and display control page, and restarted, I have lost my UK keyboard layout, so I cant type the | plus others.
          If I change the entry:
          Option "XkbLayout" "us"
          in xorg conf from US to UK and do Ctrl Alt backspace, I can then get the UK keyboard back again. I also revomed all references to the wacom tablet that I do not have.
          BUT
          If I shutdown the computer and restart, it is back to the US keyboard layout again, and all WACOM devices are back again. It is reverting to an old copy of the xorg conf file
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            Re: Adding a second graphics card and re start of X-server

            I managed to bugger up the boot, and it would hang, but restored old xorg conf file using a Live CD boot.
            Now lspci and the xorg conf file are:


            ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ lspci | grep VGA
            01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2)
            02:0a.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86c325 [ViRGE] (rev 05)
            ubuntu@ubuntu:~$

            and the current xorg conf

            Section "Files"
            FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
            FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic"
            FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
            FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
            FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
            FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
            FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
            # path to defoma fonts
            FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
            EndSection

            Section "Module"
            Load "i2c"
            Load "bitmap"
            Load "ddc"
            Load "dri"
            Load "extmod"
            Load "freetype"
            Load "glx"
            Load "int10"
            Load "vbe"
            EndSection

            Section "InputDevice"
            Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
            Driver "kbd"
            Option "CoreKeyboard"
            Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
            Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
            Option "XkbLayout" "gb"
            EndSection

            Section "InputDevice"
            Identifier "Configured Mouse"
            Driver "mouse"
            Option "CorePointer"
            Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
            Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
            Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
            Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
            EndSection


            Section "Device"
            Identifier "nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]"
            Driver "nv"
            BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
            EndSection

            Section "Monitor"
            Identifier "DELL E151FPb"
            Option "DPMS"
            EndSection

            Section "Screen"
            Identifier "Default Screen"
            Device "nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]"
            Monitor "DELL E151FPb"
            DefaultDepth 24
            SubSection "Display"
            Depth 1
            Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
            EndSubSection
            SubSection "Display"
            Depth 4
            Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
            EndSubSection
            SubSection "Display"
            Depth 8
            Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
            EndSubSection
            SubSection "Display"
            Depth 15
            Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
            EndSubSection
            SubSection "Display"
            Depth 16
            Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
            EndSubSection
            SubSection "Display"
            Depth 24
            Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
            EndSubSection
            EndSection

            Section "ServerLayout"
            Identifier "Default Layout"
            Screen "Default Screen"
            InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
            InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
            EndSection

            Section "DRI"
            Mode 0666
            EndSection




            How do I edit this to add a second monitor

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              Re: Adding a second graphics card and re start of X-server

              Nah dont bother replying ...I have given up on the idea. just too difficult. Have been reading a load of How tos on this, and it just seems a load of aggro.

              Going back to Windows for this job, Just plug them in and they work end of story.
              Cant afford to spend two days f ing around in the hope that it might work. I have a life outside this bl***y machine
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                Re: Adding a second graphics card and re start of X-server

                Sorry to see you go.
                For external use only.
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                  Re: Adding a second graphics card and re start of X-server

                  Time ran out, had to do it the easy way.

                  Have stuck another HDD into the machine and put windows on it and got it ready for this weekend. but have kept the 2 drives I had with Kubuntu on.

                  When I have more time to do it later this week/month, I may try again to get it working. I hate to be defeated by a machine.

                  I was doing it in Kubuntu to show people that there is an alternative to Windows, but from what I have seen over the past few months of playing around with it, it is not really ready for the general public/ general household user. I have been working with computers since the ZX Spectrum, and BBC days and know my way around Windows reasonably well, I am by no means an expert, but for someone that can barely use Windows, Kubuntu is still too great a challenge.

                  I'll be back to it but giving it a rest for the moment...I need to see the sunlight occasionally
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