External Hard Disk

[SheeEttin]

Re: External Hard Disk

OKJ - got the download and and entered the script and got this result:

ralph@Ralphs-computer:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdc1 /media/sdc1
Password:
fusermount: failed to access mountpoint /media/sdc1: No such file or directory
FUSE mount point creation failed
Unmounting /dev/sdc1 (SWISNIFE1)
ralph@Ralphs-computer:~$

/media is locked and am not sure why

It's owned by root, and it's failing because the directory doesn't exist. Just "sudo mkdir /media/sdc1" and it should work.

As for pestilence, it looks like you're not going anywhere until bug 110210 is resolved. Your options right now are mount it manually or use FAT32, I guess.

[Rocky37]

Re: External Hard Disk


"It's owned by root, and it's failing because the directory doesn't exist. Just "sudo mkdir /media/sdc1" and it should work."

The directory does exist - but it is locked and that I don't have permission to work in the directory ------

ralph@Ralphs-computer:~$ sudo mkdir /media/sdc1
Password:
mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/sdc1': Read-only file system
ralph@Ralphs-computer:~$

[SheeEttin]

Re: External Hard Disk

That's... weird.
Try unmounting it (just to make sure), deleting the directory, creating it again, then mounting it, all as root.

[Rocky37]

Re: External Hard Disk

That's... weird.
Try unmounting it (just to make sure), deleting the directory, creating it again, then mounting it, all as root.

Another project for tomorrow~~~~~~~~~~~

[mchuskie]

Re: External Hard Disk

@Rocky37:

fusermount: failed to access mountpoint /media/sdc1: No such file or directory
FUSE mount point creation failed
Unmounting /dev/sdc1 (SWISNIFE1)

You need to manually create the directory before you use it as a mount point:

sudo mkdir /media/sdc1

[SheeEttin]

Re: External Hard Disk

That's what I told him, but he said it exists.
Especially weird is that it's telling him it's a read-only filesystem. (I suspect something was mounted there, but I'm not sure.)

[Rocky37]

Re: External Hard Disk

Another fun day at the computer ----- NOT

Well my problems with /media have been caused by .hal-mtab-lock -- it has put a lock down on /media and also my /lost and found directory now.

I disabled all external drives today and at that point was able to get into Gnome commander again. I had lost that a few days ago. At one point, after playing around with the /media directory was able to unlock the directory and found .hal-mtab-lock in the directory. I have NO IDEA how I was able to do that -- it was fighting hand a foot every inch of the way!!!

A search on Google for that file showed other problems similar to mine --"not being able to access the directory. Tracking down "hal" for info and I then ended up in 'add/remove programs". In trying to download "hal" docs and someother files I had problems with the install of the files. An error message
"e:clvm: subprocess post -installation script returned error exit status 3" shut the install down.

Both problems seem to be related to the 'Red Hat" provincial domain. So now, I can't even download new programs or, more than likely, updates either.

I am at the point of thinking I should delete and reload -- But I have way too many hours into this at this point. It has been a learning experience though.

EDIT ~~~~~~~~

http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3084041.0

is haveing the same problem as me -- it just hasn't been connected yet!!!

Hal needs to be shot!!

[SheeEttin]

Re: External Hard Disk

If you're in a LiveCD environment, you can probably safely remove the lock.
I have a lock file in /media as well, but I don't have any trouble mounting.

[Rocky37]

Re: External Hard Disk

No, I'm on an installed version and it flat out locked up my /media drive. Have been battling this for the past 3 or 4 days. A number of people seem to be having the same problem

[SheeEttin]

Re: External Hard Disk

Wait. /media... drive?
Are you saying that you have /media on another partition?

I guess this would also be a good time for you to post your fstab (/etc/fstab).

[Rocky37]

Re: External Hard Disk

Mmmmm ----- yes and no. I have 3 storeage media drives which are all USB connections. I also have my Window partition. All have been enabled and I think that all but one were NOT connected to /media. (( after a review that is NOT correct)) The one that was causing the most trouble was the one that had it's mount point in /media. I unmounted all drives this afternoon and it was at that point that I was able to get into the /media drive and that seems to have cleared up my problem with gnome commander.

I have my main PC and a laptop on a wireless network. My main PC could see both the laptop and the USB drive and windows partitions, and infact, were all mounted/enabled. I have installed KDE and Sambo and my laptop was happy with that, at least as far as the internet connection is concerned. Couldn't get into any of the drives from the laptop though. The main PC could see the 'in question drives' but couldn't access the drives -- Once again the .hal-mtab error happened. At least that is the way I remember it.

Hal seems to be a universal problem at this point. That, plus the fact, Linux is a learning experience doesn't help either. I always seem to have an endless list of things that need to be addressed. LOL!!! Windows XP I can deal with -- though I did love the DOS interface in it's time!!! Linux seems to be more aliened with DOS in that respect but. with that also brings another learning curve of Linux.

Mr. Gates and the introduction of Vista just pissed me off. Come forth you mass of computer idiots!! I want your money!!! He's as dumb as 'the bush'.

I am working off my laptop at this point and the main is booted to windows so getting the fstab file listed will have to wait until tomorrow.

Thanks for sticking with me on this SheeEttin!!!!

[Rocky37]

Re: External Hard Disk

Wait. /media... drive?
Are you saying that you have /media on another partition?

I guess this would also be a good time for you to post your fstab (/etc/fstab).

OK, I'm sending it tonight LOL Looking back on your questions about /media on another partition -- the answer is NO. The only /media is in the root directory of Kubuntu/Linux OS.

There are 3 fstab files listed -- this one below is the latest 6/10/2007 10:58am

Of interest is that all partitions are now enabled along with dvd drive -- cd drive -- a second NTFS hard drive on my main PC along with Win XP Partition 'C drive' also a NTFS drive. I had DISABLED all of them earlier today.

The problematic USB drive is listed but NOT enabled -- a second USB drive is not listed -- a third USB port is my HP970c printer which has worked from the getgo ------- ALSO it does appear that all are mounted from /media

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# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# -- This file has been automaticly generated by ntfs-config --
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>

proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# Entry for /dev/sda3 :
UUID=a1340405-4112-42e1-9dbc-c0e57ef06be8 / ext3 nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1
# Entry for /dev/sda5 :
UUID=908f4790-f3cc-4767-a117-813610d5af79 none swap sw 0 0
/dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/dev/hdd /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/media auto owner,noauto,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid nouser,0,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/ auto owner,noauto,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid nouser,0,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/media auto owner,noauto,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid nouser,0,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/dev/scd0 /media auto users,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
/dev/scd1 /media auto users,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
/dev/sdb1 /media auto nouser,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
/dev/scd1 /media auto users,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
/dev/scd0 /media auto nouser,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
/dev/sda1 /media auto users,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
/dev/sda2 /media auto users,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0

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With this boot the /media directory is once again locked!!

Also the following was a report of a "KDE crash handler" report



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[KCrash handler]
#6 0xb71e3684 in QObject::children () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#7 0xb72ab9cb in QObject::queryList () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#8 0xb6cb43a9 in KMainWindow::internalStatusBar ()
from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.4
#9 0xb6d11885 in KMainWindow::statusBar () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.4
#10 0xb6719fa4 in KHC::Glossary::rebuildGlossaryCache ()
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#11 0xb6723179 in KHC::Glossary::show ()
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#12 0xb741115f in QWidgetStack::show () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
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#20 0xb72e20cc in QWidget::show () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#21 0xb73b5b02 in QMainWindow::show () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#22 0xb6cbb0b2 in KMainWindow::show () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.4
#23 0xb6d89908 in KMainWindow::restore () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.4
#24 0xb6737790 in kdemain () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_khelpcenter.so
#25 0xb6759464 in kdeinitmain () from /usr/lib/kde3/khelpcenter.so
#26 0x0804e6bf in ?? ()
#27 0x00000003 in ?? ()
#28 0x0807cbd0 in ?? ()
#29 0x00000001 in ?? ()
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The prior fstab yesterday 6/9/2007 follows:



# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# /dev/hda3
UUID=a1340405-4112-42e1-9dbc-c0e57ef06be8 / ext3 nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1
# /dev/hda5
UUID=908f4790-f3cc-4767-a117-813610d5af79 none swap sw 0 0
/dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/dev/hdd /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/dev/sdd1 <mount\040point> auto users,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
/media auto owner,noauto,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
/ auto owner,noauto,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
/media auto owner,noauto,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
/dev/scd0 /media auto users,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
/dev/scd1 /media auto users,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
/dev/sdb1 /media auto nouser,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
/dev/scd1 /media auto users,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
/dev/sdc1 /media auto users,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
/dev/scd0 /media auto nouser,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
/dev/sda1 /media auto users,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
/dev/sda2 /media auto users,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0


JEEEEEZZZZZ ------ now /media is UNLOCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THE LATEST FSTAB IS :::

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# -- This file has been automaticly generated by ntfs-config --
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>

proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# Entry for /dev/sda3 :
UUID=a1340405-4112-42e1-9dbc-c0e57ef06be8 / ext3 nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1
# Entry for /dev/sda5 :
UUID=908f4790-f3cc-4767-a117-813610d5af79 none swap sw 0 0
/dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/dev/hdd /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/media auto owner,noauto,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid nouser,0,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/ auto owner,noauto,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid nouser,0,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/media auto owner,noauto,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid nouser,0,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/dev/scd0 /media auto users,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
/dev/scd1 /media auto users,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
/dev/sdb1 /media auto nouser,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
/dev/scd1 /media auto users,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
/dev/scd0 /media auto nouser,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
/dev/sda1 /media auto users,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
/dev/sda2 /media auto users,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0

[penguin.ch]

Re: External Hard Disk

3 fstab files listed

You should rather learn how to set up clean, useable file system tables
than blaming the HAL developers for what is obviously your own fault:

# http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
# http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/0...mystified.html

# http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/mounting.html
# http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/mount.8.html

[Rocky37]

Re: External Hard Disk

Thanks UnicornRider -- Harsh but fair. I appreciate your suggested reading material.

I have to admit I'm like a bull in a china shop at this point. For a newbie to Linux it's difficult finding a starting point in the learning curve. So much information too digest. I'm only two weeks or so into this adventure and came to the realization last week that I had best dump this install and start over.

I apologize for insulting the HAL developers. I only knew from error messages that HAL was involved in my problems - not understand that they were self inflicted. At least I knew that this Forum could be a major asset.

Thanks for your words of wisdom.

Rocky

[penguin.ch]

Re: External Hard Disk

Harsh but fair

I'm called (a.o.) "little Dr. House" for a reason ...

For a newbie to Linux it's difficult finding a starting point in the learning curve.

To that I agree; one of several possible answers: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/re...upport.en.html