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**Volvo_Guy** · Aug 28, 2006, 09:27 PM

Re: Help installing from source

Hi,

Ok, source compiling is easy. First off download your source to your desktop, right-click and select extract here. Then go to your favorite terminal and type:

Code:

sudo apt-get install build-essential

to get a decent supply of devel tools and libs. Next type:

Code:

cd /home/yourdir/yourfilesdir

replacinging yourdir/yourfilesdir with your own info. Next look for a configure file. If there is a configure file, you can type:

Code:

sudo ./configure --help

and you can see various options for you to compile your source with. If there is no configure file, you can look for a shell script. For example, if I'm compiling the program Azureus from source, there is no configure file...there is however a shell script called Azureus. Therefore I'm going to type:

Code:

sudo ./Azureus

instead. After this stage, you will then be notified if you are missing any devel tools or libs. If you are, you can either use Adept or apt-get to download the files you need, then try ./whatever to recheck the dependencies. After that, you will get the blessing of the linux gods to use "make" To do this you'll type:

Code:

sudo make install

and sit back and relax. It may take awhile depending on the source code and the specs of your box.

Thats about as much as I know about source compiling. I hope someone else will add on to this.

Will

**John Bird** · Aug 29, 2006, 05:10 PM

Re: Help installing from source

Hi Will,
thanks for your reply. I doubt that I will get a chance to try it tonight but with any luck I should be able to tomorrow.

Regards John

**John Bird** · Aug 30, 2006, 07:13 PM

Re: Help installing from source

Hi again,
by default SANE installs its library's to //usr/local/lib/ and its configuration files in //usr/local/ect/sane.d.
Kubuntu installs the library's to //usr/lib64/sane and its configuration files to //ect/sane.d.
When I get to make would it be wiser to stick to configuring as the sane default or as Kubuntu.

Sorry if this is a daft question but this is the first time I have tried installing from source.

Regards and thanks John

**Teppic** · Aug 30, 2006, 08:14 PM

Re: Help installing from source

Personally, I'd install it to the same place as Kubuntu, you won't have to worry about config so much, and if it really does break things you just have to re-install the packaged files over the top again. Nothing worse than having a bad 'make unistall' and spending ages purging the thing from the system (well maybe an errant rm -rf * command

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**John Bird** · Aug 30, 2006, 09:55 PM

Re: Help installing from source

Hi thanks Teppic,
sorry to be a pain but I am a bit of a novice with Linux and I am not sure that Iv got this correct, Below is an edited copy of the read out from --help,
from this if I type

sudo .configure --prefix=ect --exec-prefix=usr/lib64

Should this give me the same file lay out as Kubuntu?
I intend to use checkinstall for the install to try and uninstall if it all go's wrong if that fails I just reinstall Kubuntu.
Also I have unistalled SANE using Adept but both directory's are still there with all the files should I just delete them manually.

Thanks again John

Usage: ./configure [OPTION]... [VAR=VALUE]...

To assign environment variables (e.g., CC, CFLAGS...), specify them as
VAR=VALUE. See below for descriptions of some of the useful variables.

Installation directories:
--prefix=PREFIX install architecture-independent files in PREFIX
[/usr/local]
--exec-prefix=EPREFIX install architecture-dependent files in EPREFIX
[PREFIX]

By default, `make install' will install all the files in
`/usr/local/bin', `/usr/local/lib' etc. You can specify
an installation prefix other than `/usr/local' using `--prefix',
for instance `--prefix=$HOME'.

For better control, use the options below.

Fine tuning of the installation directories:
--bindir=DIR user executables [EPREFIX/bin]
--sbindir=DIR system admin executables [EPREFIX/sbin]
--libexecdir=DIR program executables [EPREFIX/libexec]
--sysconfdir=DIR read-only single-machine data [PREFIX/etc]
--sharedstatedir=DIR modifiable architecture-independent data [PREFIX/com]
--localstatedir=DIR modifiable single-machine data [PREFIX/var]
--libdir=DIR object code libraries [EPREFIX/lib]
--includedir=DIR C header files [PREFIX/include]
--oldincludedir=DIR C header files for non-gcc [/usr/include]
--datarootdir=DIR read-only arch.-independent data root [PREFIX/share]
--datadir=DIR read-only architecture-independent data [DATAROOTDIR]
--infodir=DIR info documentation [DATAROOTDIR/info]
--localedir=DIR locale-dependent data [DATAROOTDIR/locale]
--mandir=DIR man documentation [DATAROOTDIR/man]
--docdir=DIR documentation root [DATAROOTDIR/doc/sane-backends]
--htmldir=DIR html documentation [DOCDIR]
--dvidir=DIR dvi documentation [DOCDIR]
--pdfdir=DIR pdf documentation [DOCDIR]
--psdir=DIR ps documentation [DOCDIR]

**Teppic** · Aug 31, 2006, 10:40 AM

Re: Help installing from source

Right, erm... --prefix=/usr will kill of the use of /usr/local (ie back to 'normal' behaviour) but from the readout you need to loose the /usr off of the 'sysconfdir' so --sysconfdir=/etc will do that, or you'll end up with a /usr/etc directory, recap

Code:

./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --execprefix=/usr/lib64

You may find that the --execprefix is redundant, but as I don't run Kubuntu on X86_64 I can't tell you if /usr/lib and /usr/lib64 are symlinked or not, they are on this system, this is what is looks like

Code:

ls -l /usr|grep lib
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root    root         5 Jun 23 21:45 lib -> lib64
drwxr-xr-x  12 root    root      2080 Aug 31 10:56 lib32
drwxr-xr-x 140 root    root    100968 Aug 31 15:55 lib64

**John Bird** · Aug 31, 2006, 04:24 PM

Re: Help installing from source

Hello,
no questions just to say thanks again you have been so much help.

Regards John,

**John Bird** · Aug 31, 2006, 07:02 PM

Re: Help installing from source

ARGHH the agony continues. The config went so well, but as for the checkinstall well below is the OP from the consul.

john@theredqueen:~/sane-backends-1.0.18$

*****************************************
**** Debian package creation selected ***
*****************************************

This package will be built according to these values:

0 - Maintainer: [ root@theredqueen ]
1 - Summary: [ sane ]
2 - Name: [ sane-backends ]
3 - Version: [ 1.0.18 ]
4 - Release: [ 1 ]
5 - License: [ GPL ]
6 - Group: [ checkinstall ]
7 - Architecture: [ amd64 ]
8 - Source location: [ sane-backends-1.0.18 ]
9 - Alternate source location: [ ]
10 - Requires: [ ]

Enter a number to change any of them or press ENTER to continue:

Installing with make install...

========================= Installation results ===========================
making install in include
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/john/sane-backends-1.0.18/include'
../mkinstalldirs /usr/include/sane
mkdir /usr/include/sane
installing sane/sane.h in /usr/include/sane/sane.h...
/usr/bin/install: setting permissions for `/usr/include/sane/sane.h': No such file or directory
installing sane/saneopts.h in /usr/include/sane/saneopts.h...
/usr/bin/install: setting permissions for `/usr/include/sane/saneopts.h': No such file or directory
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/john/sane-backends-1.0.18/include'
making install in lib
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/john/sane-backends-1.0.18/lib'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `install'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/john/sane-backends-1.0.18/lib'
making install in sanei
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/john/sane-backends-1.0.18/sanei'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `install'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/john/sane-backends-1.0.18/sanei'
making install in backend
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/john/sane-backends-1.0.18/backend'
../mkinstalldirs /usr/lib /usr/lib/sane /etc/sane.d
mkdir /usr/lib/sane
mkdir /etc/sane.d
installing libsane-abaton.la in /usr/lib/sane/libsane-abaton.la...
libtool: install: `libsane-abaton.la' is not a valid libtool archive
Try `libtool --help --mode=install' for more information.
make[1]: *** [install-be] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/john/sane-backends-1.0.18/backend'
make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1

**** Installation failed. Aborting package creation.

Cleaning up...OK

Bye.

From the above I tried running libtool --help --mode=install the OP is below.

john@theredqueen:~/sane-backends-1.0.18$ libtool --help --mode=install
Usage: libtool [OPTION]... --mode=install INSTALL-COMMAND...

Install executables or libraries.

INSTALL-COMMAND is the installation command. The first component should be
either the `install' or `cp' program.

The rest of the components are interpreted as arguments to that command (only
BSD-compatible install options are recognized).

I'm stuck at this point and would understand if you feel that you can offer no more support. This must be a real pain trying to guide a novice through this. Any help would however be most welcome.

Regards John

**Volvo_Guy** · Aug 31, 2006, 07:08 PM

Re: Help installing from source

Hiya,

Is the latest version of libtool installed?

Code:

sudo apt-get install libtool

then rerun checkinstall then make.

Worth a shot, libtool contains thes packages too: libtool-doc g77 fortran77-compiler gcj libltdl3-dev

Will

**John Bird** · Aug 31, 2006, 07:43 PM

Re: Help installing from source

Hi Will I installed the version that is in the Dapper 64bit repros but just prior to posting this reply Adept updater just updated quite a few lib files so tomorrow I will run apt-get install, just to make sure cross my fingers and hope that we are on a winner.

Thanks for all this assistance everybody regards John

**John Bird** · Sep 01, 2006, 08:40 PM

Re: Help installing from source

Hi again all tried Will's suggestion but I still get the same error mesage.

Thanks again everyone any suggestions still welcome John

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