Kdetv

[Fintan]

Hi again, since i still haven't recieved an answer to my problem i will post it again. After installing drapper i installed kdetv and gave it the same settings as in breezy. I get sound but no picture.

Does anyone have any ideas? I would realy like to get this to work. and no xawtv and tvtime don't work either.

My tvcard is a medion 7134 (Philips 7134 chip) It is installed and working.

Thanks in advance for the help.
Cheers
Fintan

[Rog131]

Re: Kdetv

Do you get error messages when you start xawtv or tvtime in the konsole ?

What do you get with: xawtv -hwscan

I get:

This is xawtv-3.94, running on Linux/i686 (2.6.15-26-k7)
looking for available devices
port 115-115
type : Xvideo, image scaler
name : ATI Radeon Video Overlay

/dev/video0: OK [ -device /dev/video0 ]
type : v4l2
name : BT878 video (Hauppauge (bt878))
flags: overlay capture tuner

Are you using Ati or nVidia (or something else) ?

For Ati:
(Topic: ATI RADEON Xpress 200M Series Vid Card & Hardware Accel. http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3898)

Problems and solutions:

xv problems:
ATI driver (with 1 X on monitor and 1 X on TV) and xv extension
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=162013

Solution:
Section "Module"
SubSection "extmod"
Option "omit xfree86-dga"
EndSubSection

Video card problems
tvtime not starting when using the Radeon FireGL drivers
http://tvtime.sourceforge.net/problems.html

Solution:
Section "Device"
Option "VideoOverlay" "on"

[Fintan]

Re: Kdetv

HI rog, no i don't get an error message just a very fuzzy picture. But i don't like either of them so it's mute.
I have a ati 9250 grfic card. As i said it worked fine under breezy. I doubt that it would not be supported under drapper. (After all my desktop looks graet) )
The rest of your suggestions, what did you mean by:

xv problems:
Solution:
Section "Module"
SubSection "extmod"
Option "omit xfree86-dga"
EndSubSection

and for tvtime:
Solution:
Section "Device"
Option "VideoOverlay" "on"

bythw your links were not very usefull, sorry, but thank you anyway.

Any other ideas? I am realy desperate. well not realy i would just like to know way kdetv worked under breezy and not under drapper. Plus i am intrigued that although over 130 people viewed my first kdetv topic in mai only one person answered. But that wasn't very usefull either. so thank you again.

cheers
Fintan

[Fintan]

Re: Kdetv

HI rog,
I reinstalled xawtv and ran the scan:
fintan@fintanws1:~$ xawtv -hwscan
This is xawtv-3.94, running on Linux/i686 (2.6.15-26-386)
looking for available devices
/dev/video0: OK [ -device /dev/video0 ]
type : v4l2
name : Medion 7134
flags: overlay capture tuner

I don't know if that helps but when running kmplayer i get this error message: (eventhouhg my movies run fine)
It seams there is no xvideo support for your card or something to that extent so i ran xvinfo as suggested by mplayer:
fintan@fintanws1:~$ xvinfo
X-Video Extension version 2.2
screen #0
no adaptors present
fintan@fintanws1:~$

So what now?
Everthing worked fine under breezy. I am confused.

I hope this helps you help me.
cheers
Fintan

[Rog131]

Re: Kdetv

Well - you could try

SubSection "extmod"
Option "omit xfree86-dga"
EndSubSection

in the xorg.conf (Section "Module"). Remember backup first !

This helpped me when i upgraded from hoary to the breezy. Xawtv was crappy b&w after upgrade. But this module corrected it.

From /1/ "Without XVideo, this scaling would have to be done in software, which is possible but requires a considerable amount of processing power, sometimes to the point of slowing down/degrading the video stream."

Don't know if this helps you, but maybe


/1/ About X video (xv) extension.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_video_extension

[Fintan]

Re: Kdetv

This is th "modules" section of my xorg.conf now:
Section "Module"
SubSection "extmod"
Option "omit xfree86-dga"
EndSubSection
Load "i2c"
Load "bitmap"
Load "ddc"
Load "dri"
Load "extmod"
Load "freetype"
Load "glx"
Load "int10"
Load "type1"
Load "vbe"
EndSection

I didn't help though. I still get the same error under mplayer and no picture for kdetv. any suggestions?
Thankx

[Rog131]

Re: Kdetv

After reboot still no xv (xvinfo) ?

Are you using mesa or fglrx drivers ?

Quessing mode.

After upgrade (breezy to dapper) i have to reinstall several packages. One was mesa-common-dev. Package manager (synaptic) said that it was installed but OpenGL headers was missing. Reinstallation corrected it.

So you could try to reinstall mesa packages.


Quessing mode off.

[Fintan]

Re: Kdetv

Mesa and fglrx are installed (as far as i can tell in synaptic). No change. Do you want me to uninstall and then reinstall? synaptic tells me that it will also get rid of a whole host of packages (kdedesktop, etc). if i uninstall mesa and its libs.

I am at a loss.

[Rog131]

Re: Kdetv

Are you using mesa or fglrx drivers ?

Do you have in the xorg.conf line

Driver "ati "

or

Driver "fglrx"

It's in the Section "Device"

Or type fglrxinfo in to the konsole:

mesa:

$ fglrxinfo
display: :0.0 screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 4.0.4

fglrx:

$ fglrxinfo
display: :0.0 screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9600 XT Generic
OpenGL version string: 2.0.5814 (8.25.18)

About fglrx and everything below Radeon 9500:

Unfortunately OpenGL seems to be broken for R200 cards (everything below Radeon 9500) in this driver version. This may be fixed by replacing /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 with alibGL.so.1.2 from the previous driver version (8.24.8 ).

More:
http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubu...allation_Guide

Do you want me to uninstall and then reinstall?

No - just re-install. For installed packages options are: re-install, removal, complete removal. This may help (or may not ).

Just quessing ! Maybe something went wrong in the upgarde.

As i said it worked fine under breezy

Dapper thinks that all packages are ok, but they are not. So re-install mesa packages IF you are using mesa.

[Fintan]

Re: Kdetv

my xorg.cong:
Section "Device"
Identifier "Generic Video Card"
Driver "vesa"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

fglrxinfo:
fintan@fintanws1:~$ fglrxinfo
Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
display: :0.0 screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)

fintan@fintanws1:~$

Now what?

Bthw I did a new install not an upgrade from breezy.

[kubicle]

Re: Kdetv

You're currently using the "vesa" driver,

Change it to either "ati" or "fglrx" in xorg.conf (depending on which driver you wish to use) and restart X

If for some reason X won't start, you can change it back with nano 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf'

[Rog131]

Re: Kdetv

You can reconfigure xserver settings:

sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

- asks lot of questions.
- backups your xorg.conf before writing new xorg.conf

[Fintan]

Re: Kdetv

Hi rog and kubiical. Changing the device to ati did the trick. I had to use video4linux AND xvideo plugins which chnaged a bit from breezy, but heh? Didn't try fglrx yet what is the difference? Is ist better to use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? Haven't tried that either yet.

Anyway thankx so much. I like getting to know linux this way.

Cheers
Fintan

[Rog131]

Re: Kdetv

fglrx drivers are made by Ati (proprietary)

"Ati" drivers are opensource

From http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Fglrx

How much is the speed gain versus the opensource drivers?

Compared to the old drivers, approximately 40% speed gain have been noticed with fglrx. However, there are issues with freezing/garbage after suspend, garbage when resizing desktop (via ctrlaltplus, ctrlaltminus), and garbage while using VMware. The current 8.14.13 has shown 400% improvement over using the open source radeon driver: 1200 FPS for glxgears1! However the situation seems to be changing today. With recent x11-drm-20060608 driver (gentoo) and thinkpad t42 (ati 9600) the speed is confirmed as 1900fps without any single crash so far.

So - It gives you faster 3D. Or so it says

sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg makes new xorg.conf file. It reconfigures all settings: modules, mouse, graphic card, display, ... If you are only changing "vesa" to "ati" it's faster/easier to use text editor.