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**randcoop** · Aug 03, 2006, 09:40 PM

Re: Wireless USB Stick, it isn't found...

You're looking in the wrong places, I think. What does the file /etc/network/interfaces contain?

That file is the file ifup and ifdown look at when trying to implement a connection. If you don't have your interfaces configured correctly there, then ifup can't work. The report you got back indicates a problem with interfaces, so I would look at that file for information.

SJ · Aug 04, 2006, 05:55 AM

Re: Wireless USB Stick, it isn't found...

This:

Code:

auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
address 127.0.0.1
netmask 255.0.0.0

auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp

auto eth1
iface eth1 inet dhcp

auto eth2
iface eth2 inet dhcp

auto ath0
iface ath0 inet dhcp

auto wlan0
iface wlan0 inet dhcp

And this is an image of /etc/udev/rules.d/

Your telling me that i'm looking at the wrong places, but i'm only following the wiki.

**randcoop** · Aug 04, 2006, 08:27 AM

Re: Wireless USB Stick, it isn't found...

I do not believe that the wiki will help you solve your problem. But you can certainly try to follow the wiki.

If you choose not to do that yet, then I would suggest that you instead try to use network-manager and knetworkmanager (the gui for network-manager in Kubuntu). These programs essentially automate what the wiki is telling you to do. However, in order for these programs to work, your interfaces file needs to be nearly disabled.

Since you're not on the internet under Linux, you'll have to download the knetworkmanager package and install it using dpkg. Before installing it, you would have to change your interfaces file. You said your interfaces file looks like this:

auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
address 127.0.0.1
netmask 255.0.0.0

auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp

auto eth1
iface eth1 inet dhcp

auto eth2
iface eth2 inet dhcp

auto ath0
iface ath0 inet dhcp

auto wlan0
iface wlan0 inet dhcp

You would edit the file so that it looked like this:

auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
address 127.0.0.1
netmask 255.0.0.0

#auto eth0
#iface eth0 inet dhcp

#auto eth1
#iface eth1 inet dhcp

#auto eth2
#iface eth2 inet dhcp

#auto ath0
#iface ath0 inet dhcp

#auto wlan0
#iface wlan0 inet dhcp

Then you would install the knetworkmanager package you downloaded with:

Code:

sudo dpkg -i knetworkmanager...(whatever else is here)...deb

Then you would run knetworkmanager from the K menu/Internet/

Then you would re-boot your computer. By rebooting, your ndiswrapper should start and your network-manager daemon should start and network-manager should use the wireless card to get you on line.

Again, please use the wiki if you think it will work and that you can work your way through it. I can't help with that because I don't understand everything it's saying.

SJ · Aug 04, 2006, 10:23 AM

Re: Wireless USB Stick, it isn't found...

No, I will follow you. You helped me this far, I believe that you can help me solved this problem.

The interface-file, can I copy the text you gaved me, paste it in MS Word, save it too my USB-flashdisk and copy from there the text into the interface-file and save it?

sudo kate , I guess ... For editing that interface-file, right?

After editing the interface-file, I need to give this command:
sudo dpkg -i knetworkmanager...(whatever else is here)...deb
... You said 'downloaded', but I can't do that under Linux because I haven't any internet-acces... But oké, I will give that command and hope it will works...

Thanks Randcoop, I'll give it a try.

SJ · Aug 04, 2006, 12:19 PM

Re: Wireless USB Stick, it isn't found...

Since you're not on the internet under Linux, you'll have to download the knetworkmanager package

Just 1 little problem: how do I download this?

Can I download the package using Windows? I'll copy the package to my usb-flashdrive then and install it under Linux.

But just 1 little problem: where can I download it?

Thanks in advance,
SJ

**randcoop** · Aug 04, 2006, 03:00 PM

Re: Wireless USB Stick, it isn't found...

Download it from here:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/kde/knetworkmanager

Notice that you need other packages to make this work. You need to download network manager (in the list on this page) as well.

If you download 2 or more packages to the same location, you can install them by running:

Code:

sudo dpkg -i *.deb

from within the directory in which they reside.

SJ · Aug 04, 2006, 05:00 PM

Re: Wireless USB Stick, it isn't found...

Ok, I downloaded it and installed it... What to do next? I also find it back in the K-menu --> Internet.

Thanks.

SJ · Aug 05, 2006, 04:07 PM

Re: Wireless USB Stick, it isn't found...

Please, you are my only hope...

**randcoop** · Aug 05, 2006, 04:52 PM

Re: Wireless USB Stick, it isn't found...

You want to make sure that the interfaces file is commented out in the way that I explained earlier. Then you want to run knetworkmanager. Then see if it sees your wireless.

If not, try re-booting. Knetworkmanager should be running by default as part of the reboot. Again, does it see your wireless network?

SJ · Aug 05, 2006, 05:17 PM

Re: Wireless USB Stick, it isn't found...

This is my network interface-file:

Code:

auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
address 127.0.0.1
netmask 255.0.0.0

#auto eth0
#iface eth0 inet dhcp

#auto eth1
#iface eth1 inet dhcp

#auto eth2
#iface eth2 inet dhcp

#auto ath0
#iface ath0 inet dhcp

#auto wlan0
#iface wlan0 inet dhcp


#iface eth0 inet dhcp

#auto eth0

You've told me to use the # , so that's what I did...

When I type this in the console "iwconfig" I get this:

Code:

jenthe@jenthe-pc:~$ iwconfig
lo    no wireless extensions.

eth0   no wireless extensions.

jenthe@jenthe-pc:~$

The command "lsusb" finds my stick, my usb-printer, my webcam and my usb-flashdisk:

Code:

jenthe@jenthe-pc:~$ lsusb
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 058f:6362 Alcor Micro Corp.
Bus 003 Device 004: ID 0baf:011b U.S. Robotics
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 10d6:1100 Actions Semiconductor Co., Ltd MPMan MP-Ki 128 MP3 Player/Recorder
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 03f0:4d11 Hewlett-Packard
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 041e:4036 Creative Technology, Ltd Webcam Live!/Live! Pro
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
jenthe@jenthe-pc:~$

And then, "Kinfocenter" finds my stick too!!

So if "lsusb" and kinfocenter can find my stick, why doesn't it just work?

I tried to open Knetworkmanager, if I'm lucky he asks for a pasword, but then... Nothing happens. The program won't open.

**randcoop** · Aug 05, 2006, 11:54 PM

Re: Wireless USB Stick, it isn't found...

There is no point in running iwconfig if you're trying to use knetworkmanager. Iwconfig uses the interfaces file that you've disabled by adding the # sign in front of each line.

I don't know why knetworkmanager isn't running. What happens when you run it from the command line? If you run:

Code:

ps -e |grep manager

does knetworkmanager show as a running program?

SJ · Aug 08, 2006, 04:06 PM

Re: Wireless USB Stick, it isn't found...

No, it does not show as a running program.

I don't know it anymore. Maybe is Linux just nothing for me.

**opie** · Aug 10, 2006, 09:03 AM

Re: Wireless USB Stick, it isn't found...

I can understand your frustration. Maybe I shouldn't get involved here and forgive me if I am stating something obvious but there are many dependencies with knetworkmanager, so if you are downloading the file manually you are going to have to make sure that you have all the dependency packages installed. This will be very tedious.

Have you connected your machine over an ethernet port of your router? This shouldn't require all the tedious work wireless does and will allow you to use adept to install knetworkmanager and let it resolve all the dependency issues.

SJ · Aug 10, 2006, 10:31 AM

Re: Wireless USB Stick, it isn't found...

I'm affraid I can't use the Ethernet-way.
The problem is that the pc is at the attic. The wireless router is at the first floor.
The distance is far.
So I can't just bring my pc downstaires.

And your right, by the installation it says something like "packages are missing".

Indeed, my frustrations are big right now. I like using Linux (a lot, it's fantastic) but the problems sometimes are quite enoying.

**randcoop** · Aug 10, 2006, 11:04 AM

Re: Wireless USB Stick, it isn't found...

Well, I hate to say it, but if you can't resolve the dependencies by downloading the necessary files, then this may be the end of the effort to get your wireless working. I think there are now maybe four possibilities for you:

1. Try to download the files necessary to get knetworkmanager and networkmanager to install correctly.

2. Buy a new wireless adapter...one that works directly with Linux drivers instead of requiring NDIS.

3. Abandon Kubuntu and try a different distribution...one that works better with ndiswrapper. Knoppix is a possibility in this regard, as is Mepis.

4. Abandon Linux.

As a Linux user exclusively, I certainly hope you don't choose the last option, though I would understand if you did. In my opinion, Linux distros still need to do MUCH better at multimedia (especially multimedia streaming) and at wireless. While I've made wireless work through ndiswrapper on Kubuntu, I can't deny that I am willing to perservere for far longer than most people. Certainly, it shouldn't be that difficult.

If you choose the first option, then I'll look here for more reports and continue to try to help out.

I am sorry that I haven't been successful so far. I wish I could have been more helpful.

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