adept and apt-get not connecting all of the time

[azwli]

hello, I am still having network problems with my new install of dapper drake. I turned off ipv6 in Firefox and now fire fox mostly works, but there have been a few times where it only brings up a gray screen for a page that know should work, then later it brings it up with a refresh. But the main problem is that adept and apt-get is not working consistently. I had some friends over on Saturday and was showing them how easy it is to install software in Linux and much to my frustration, it would not work. The next day I could update with no problem. Now it is not working again even after restarting the computer. When I use apt-get, I get this message:

E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
E: Unable to lock the list directory

The other related issue is in Thunderbird where two of my email accounts associated with one server seem to work fine but the third, associated with another server won't connect at all. (it will connect in kmail, but I can't get kmail to send)

Please, I need really clear instructions for what to do to solve this issue.

Thank you,

Jason

[sky]

Re: adept and apt-get not connecting all of the time

Usually it means that there's another process trying to upgrade... But it also can mean that you're not using sudo.
To be sure that no other process is updating sources, show the file :

ls -l /var/lib/apt/lists/lock

If it exist and is newer than your last reboot, so a process is updating, if not, it can be a bug that the file was not removed after last shutdown... Then delete it.

Hope it helps

[DaMoGan]

Re: adept and apt-get not connecting all of the time


sky's advice for apt-get is good. As for your email issue, there are some things to check. First off, what kind of email account is it, POP or IMAP? Does it require a secure connection? (SSL/TLS). How does it fail to work? (Permission denied? Silent failure?)

I haven't used Kmail in a long time, but I would think it is configured in a very similar way to Thunderbird, and that means that the outgoing mail server is configured in a separate step. As a caveat, note that Thunderbird has the following warning on the 'Outgoing Server (SMTP)' screen of the 'Account Settings' window:

Although you can specify more than one outgoing server (SMTP), this is only recommended for advanced users. Setting up multiple SMTP servers can cause errors when sending messages.

so if you can get one gateway configured for outgoing mail, maybe you should just stick with that.

[azwli]

Re: adept and apt-get not connecting all of the time

Thank you Sky, I tried your suggestion and this is what I got:

-rw-r----- 1 root root 0 2007-03-23 20:04 /var/lib/apt/lists/lock

So I haven't rebooted for a couple days and that seems to be giving the current time and date. How do I stop it? delete it?

[sky]

Re: adept and apt-get not connecting all of the time

Hi,

No in fact you shouldn't delete this file, are you sure you're using sudo ? Can you give the exact command you're typing in please ?
like : sudo apt-get update

Cheers

[azwli]

Re: adept and apt-get not connecting all of the time

First try I got this:

seawing@seawing-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get update
Password:
E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
E: Unable to lock the list directory

Then I tried again and I got this:

seawing@seawing-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get update
Password:
Sorry, try again.
Password:
Get:1 [url]http://security.ubuntu.com[/url] dapper-security Release.gpg [191B]
Get:2 [url]http://security.ubuntu.com[/url] dapper-security Release [50.9kB]
Get:3 [url]http://security.ubuntu.com[/url] dapper-security/main Packages [102kB]
Get:4 [url]http://security.ubuntu.com[/url] dapper-security/main Sources [20.1kB]
Get:5 [url]http://security.ubuntu.com[/url] dapper-security/universe Packages [53.1kB]
Get:6 [url]http://security.ubuntu.com[/url] dapper-security/universe Sources [6729B]
Err [url]http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com[/url] dapper Release.gpg
 Could not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
Err [url]http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com[/url] dapper-updates Release.gpg
 Could not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0). - connect (101 Network is unreachable)
Err [url]http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com[/url] dapper-backports Release.gpg
 Could not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
Ign [url]http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com[/url] dapper-updates Release
Ign [url]http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com[/url] dapper-updates/main Packages
Ign [url]http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com[/url] dapper-updates/restricted Packages
Ign [url]http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com[/url] dapper-updates/main Sources
Ign [url]http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com[/url] dapper-updates/restricted Sources
Err [url]http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com[/url] dapper-updates/main Packages
 Could not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
Err [url]http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com[/url] dapper-updates/restricted Packages
 Could not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
Err [url]http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com[/url] dapper-updates/main Sources
 Could not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
Err [url]http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com[/url] dapper-updates/restricted Sources
 Could not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
Fetched 233kB in 12m0s (323B/s)
Failed to fetch [url]http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release.gpg[/url] Could not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
Failed to fetch [url]http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/Release.gpg[/url] Could not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0). - connect (101 Network is unreachable)
Failed to fetch [url]http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/Release.gpg[/url] Could not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
Failed to fetch [url]http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz[/url] Could not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
Failed to fetch [url]http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz[/url] Could not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
Failed to fetch [url]http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/main/source/Sources.gz[/url] Could not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
Failed to fetch [url]http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/restricted/source/Sources.gz[/url] Could not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?

When I telnet the mail server it says: trying 1.0.0.0...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Network is unreachable

When I telnet the IP I get this:

seawing@seawing-desktop:~$ telnet 207.150.176.47 25
Trying 207.150.176.47...
Connected to 207.150.176.47.
Escape character is '^]'.
220-sequoia.dns8.net ESMTP Exim 4.52 #1 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:59:14 -0400
220-We do not authorize the use of this system to transport unsolicited,
220 and/or bulk e-mail.
421 sequoia.dns8.net: SMTP command timeout - closing connection
Connection closed by foreign host.

Kmail is only set up for a comparison (and so I can get mail from that address) but I actually cant send SMTP from kmail or Thunderbird.

[azwli]

Re: adept and apt-get not connecting all of the time

Here is the weird thing...I did nothing to change anything, not even a reboot, and now adept can fetch all the packages and apt-get can update. but I still can't send email or recieve to that one account in Tbird.

[azwli]

Re: adept and apt-get not connecting all of the time

Should I start a new thread to deal with this email problem?