Ati driver problems

[eekie]

I have an asus x1300 128mb videocard and an AG-Neovo F-419 TFT screen.
Kubuntu runs fine but uses vesa video driver and plug and play monitor. If I install the ati driver from the ati site I can install the ati driver by using the fglrx. But if I try to apply it says: this driver was not successfully tested with this monitor configuration. Do you want to continue?
I can not find the AG-neovo in the monitor list (it is available in suse 10.1 however). So it is impossible to load the appropriate monitor.
If I apply anyway and restart the computer Kubuntu ends up after the install procedure in an frozen splash screen.
Until now the only thing I managed to do was reinstalling Kubuntu, which is quite elaborate.
I had problems before with the ati driver in suse 10.1 where it made the sessions crash on running Xawtv and KDEtv. I required the driver there because the standard driver forced my screen in low resoution.
The questions are:
- What is wrong with the driver?
- How can I repair kubuntu
- Where do I find the kubuntu monitor driver for the AG-Neovo F-419
- How do I operate kubuntu in the command mode (I am using the grub loader from suse 10.1, because the grub loader installed with kubuntu does not work in multi platform pc)

[eekie]

Re: Ati driver problems

Not many ati driver pandits in the kubuntu community, as nobody came up with answers to my questions.
Meanwhile I have tried a few possibilities. The most promising was to download the driver installer from the ati site and install it according to the new installer instructions, chapter operating system specific installation. Standard the drivers are for Suse and RedHat, but I found also one for Ubuntu Dapper Drake. When I installed it it came up with the following phrase:
no support for this Kubuntu distribution.
Which should mean that Kubuntu has no driver for my asus x1300 128mb video card and certain applications (like googleearth) won't work for me.
Is this really true or is there a workaround?

[Rog131]

Re: Ati driver problems

Where do I find the kubuntu monitor driver for the AG-Neovo F-419

Neovo ? Hmm - from /2/ :

The following driver and installation guide is suitable for all current AG Neovo LCD displays.
These files are only workable with all Microsoft Windows operating systems after Windows 95.

Windows only product ?

You could try "Generic Monitor" and then manually insert right values.

Which should mean that Kubuntu has no driver for my asus x1300 128mb video card and certain applications (like googleearth) won't work for me.
Is this really true or is there a workaround?

This /1/ says that:

Installing Dapper's Included Driver (8.25.18)

The included fglrx driver supports Radeon 8500+ and the X-series cards up to X1900.

and

Generating/Installing Ubuntu packages for the new 8.29.6 drivers in Ubuntu Dapper Manually

The new fglrx driver supports Radeon 9500+ (older cards will not work!) and the X-series cards up to X1900.

Configuring
http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Configuring
all options: aticonfig --help

Helppers:

Kommander script/gui for fglrx video driver:
fglrxKonf
http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=43612

kX Generator is a utilitty to configure the X server:
http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=39085



/1/ Ubuntu Installation Guide (Dapper)
http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubu...allation_Guide

/2/ http://www.agneovo.com/global/support/download.htm

[jmanincharlotte]

Re: Ati driver problems

I feel your pain - I have a Powercolor ATI X1300 512MB card in two machines running Kubuntu. I went round and round the Internet and books and have found only one thing that works for me.

On a fresh Kubuntu Install (I haven't figured out how to get my ATI card to work correctly in 3D once it gets boogered. I have to reinstall Kubuntu to make it work. Anyone have any pointers on this, I am all ears!)

Anyhoo, what works for me:
1. Kubuntu install is fresh
2. Copy and paste into Konsole: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-control <ENTER>
3. Some gibberish scrolls on the screen as downloads occur - this takes a few minutes
4. Edit the xorg.conf file as Root /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Find this part of the file:
Section "Device"
Identifier "ATI Technologies, Inc. ATI Default Card"
Driver "vesa"
BusID "PCI:1 : 0 : 0"
EndSection

Change the Driver "vesa" to Driver "fglrx"

File should now look like this:
Section "Device"
Identifier "ATI Technologies, Inc. ATI Default Card"
Driver "fglrx"
BusID "PCI:1 : 0 : 0"
EndSection

5. Save the xorg.conf file
6. Reboot the computer
7. Once the system is back up, type this into Konsole: fgl_glxgears <ENTER>
You should see a Flash program with a spinning box and colored gears turning.
If you see this your 3D is correctly installed

CAUTION - do not reset your screen resolution. Everytime I tried this, it borked my 3D and I had to reload the OS. I haven't run across any other things that screw up 3D

After I did this, my Google Earth performs like a champ! Before this, it was very sluggish and unusable.

Your results may vary....

[Rog131]

Re: Ati driver problems

Do you find any errors from the Xorg.0.log or dmesg?

Or as in the /1/:

Ubuntu Dapper Installation Guide
Troubleshooting for Method 1

The output of dmesg | grep fglrx and /var/log/Xorg.0.log are most useful when looking for errors.

More:

dmesg explained
http://linuxgazette.net/issue59/nazario.html


/1/ Ubuntu Installation Guide (Dapper)
http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubu...allation_Guide

[eekie]

Re: Ati driver problems

Thanks for your replies.
Rog131 provided the information which helped me to install the ati 64 bits driver for my x1300 videocard. Manual installation following the Ubuntu Dapper installation guide finally brought the ati driver to life.

This was confirmed by fglrginfo:

johan@racekubuntu:~$ fglrxinfo
display: :0.0 screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Radeon X1300 Series Generic
OpenGL version string: 2.0.6065 (8.29.6)

glxinfo yielded:

johan@racekubuntu:~$ glxinfo | grep render
direct rendering: Yes
GLX_ATI_pixel_format_float, GLX_ATI_render_texture
OpenGL renderer string: Radeon X1300 Series Generic

This should be reason to get happy, but alas all my mediaplayers and tv players make the session crash now! The screen module can not be loaded aby more in system settings and Google Earth now hangs in the X-initializing phase.

This seems to be a bug (bug 330) occuring in amd 64 systems with DVI connected screens.
ATi Linux Platform Bugs classifies this bug resolved.
The Gentoo forum gives this solution:

"I solved the problem with glxinfo, mplayer etc not returning the shell.
I did an emerge --unmerge of the ati-drivers then installed the binary drivers straight from ati's website.
Works fine now."

Can anybody be more specific as how to emerge --unmerge?

[Rog131]

Re: Ati driver problems

From Gentoo:emerge /1/

From Linux 101, The beginner's guide to all things Linux.
Jump to: navigation, search

Emerge is a very powerful command in Gentoo Linux, so it is important that we know how to use it.

Generally to install a program (and any dependencies it requires) onto your computer, you can type:

# emerge <program name>

and it will do its job

The emerge installation process is like any other source distribution install, except it automates a lot of the difficult procedures that you would be doing otherwise.

So it's smarter installation/uninstallation ?
(APT HOWTO /3/: apt-get install /apt-get remove (apt-get --purge remove))


This /2/ tells that:

General Troubleshooting process.

If something goes wrong, cry.

System lockup on logout or switch to virtual consoles

If your system locks up after you logout or when you try to switch to a virtual console, this might be an instance of this bug. It is likely that the problem only occurs for users with an Xorg version of at least 7.0, an amd64 system and a PCI Express graphics card. Probably it only affects users of DVI.

There is a workaround: Use a standard D-Sub VGA connector instead of the DVI connector.

Does this really work ? And is D-Sub pic as good as DVI pic ?


What

:~$ xvinfo

tells ?

Here:

X-Video Extension version 2.2
screen #0
Adaptor #0: "ATI Radeon Video Overlay"
number of ports: 1
port base: 115
operations supported: PutImage
.
.
.

/1/ http://learn.clemsonlinux.org/wiki/Gentoo:emerge

/2/ http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Troubleshooting

/3/ http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/ap.../index.en.html

[Cyrus Jones]

Re: Ati driver problems

I'm very new to Kubuntu and linux in general. I have an ATI Radeon X800 and if I boot the Kubuntu CD, Kubuntu loads, but freezes right before KDE should load. I was going to change to the vesa driver to start KDE and then switch to the fglrx drivers. However, I am wondering how to boot in console mode so that I could switch to the vesa drivers, startx, and install KDE. Later, I would change to the fglrx drivers. How would I boot into console mode? Any suggestions on things I should change?

[eekie]

Re: Ati driver problems

Hallo Rog 131

What do ineedto apt-get install /apt-get remove (apt-get --purge remove))?
All fglrx* files?

Quote:
Does this really work ? And is D-Sub pic as good as DVI pic ?
D-sub gives lesser quality and has the same problems starting video and tv programs

Xvinfo renders the following:


X-Video Extension version 2.2
screen #0
Adaptor #0: "ATI Radeon AVIVO Video"
number of ports: 4
port base: 115
operations supported: PutImage
supported visuals:
depth 24, visualID 0x23
depth 24, visualID 0x24
depth 24, visualID 0x25
depth 24, visualID 0x26
depth 24, visualID 0x27
depth 24, visualID 0x28
depth 24, visualID 0x29
depth 24, visualID 0x2a
depth 24, visualID 0x2b
depth 24, visualID 0x2c
depth 24, visualID 0x2d
depth 24, visualID 0x2e
depth 24, visualID 0x2f
depth 24, visualID 0x30
depth 24, visualID 0x31
depth 24, visualID 0x32
depth 24, visualID 0x33
depth 24, visualID 0x34
depth 24, visualID 0x35
depth 24, visualID 0x36
depth 24, visualID 0x37
depth 24, visualID 0x38
depth 24, visualID 0x39
depth 24, visualID 0x3a
depth 24, visualID 0x3b
depth 24, visualID 0x3c
depth 24, visualID 0x3d
depth 24, visualID 0x3e
depth 24, visualID 0x3f
depth 24, visualID 0x40
depth 24, visualID 0x41
depth 24, visualID 0x42
depth 24, visualID 0x43
depth 24, visualID 0x44
depth 24, visualID 0x45
depth 24, visualID 0x46
depth 24, visualID 0x47
depth 24, visualID 0x48
depth 24, visualID 0x49
depth 24, visualID 0x4a
depth 24, visualID 0x4b
depth 24, visualID 0x4c
depth 24, visualID 0x4d
depth 24, visualID 0x4e
depth 24, visualID 0x4f
depth 24, visualID 0x50
depth 24, visualID 0x51
depth 24, visualID 0x52
depth 24, visualID 0x53
depth 24, visualID 0x54
depth 24, visualID 0x55
depth 24, visualID 0x56
depth 24, visualID 0x57
depth 24, visualID 0x58
depth 24, visualID 0x59
depth 24, visualID 0x5a
depth 24, visualID 0x5b
depth 24, visualID 0x5c
depth 24, visualID 0x5d
depth 24, visualID 0x5e
depth 24, visualID 0x5f
depth 24, visualID 0x60
depth 24, visualID 0x61
depth 24, visualID 0x62
number of attributes: 13
"XV_SET_DEFAULTS" (range 0 to 1)
client settable attribute
"XV_DOUBLE_BUFFER" (range 0 to 1)
client settable attribute
client gettable attribute (current value is 1)
"XV_BRIGHTNESS" (range -1000 to 1000)
client settable attribute
client gettable attribute (current value is 0)
"XV_CONTRAST" (range -1000 to 1000)
client settable attribute
client gettable attribute (current value is 0)
"XV_SATURATION" (range -1000 to 1000)
client settable attribute
client gettable attribute (current value is 0)
"XV_COLOR" (range -1000 to 1000)
client settable attribute
client gettable attribute (current value is 0)
"XV_HUE" (range -1000 to 1000)
client settable attribute
client gettable attribute (current value is 0)
"XV_RED_INTENSITY" (range -1000 to 1000)
client settable attribute
client gettable attribute (current value is 0)
"XV_GREEN_INTENSITY" (range -1000 to 1000)
client settable attribute
client gettable attribute (current value is 0)
"XV_BLUE_INTENSITY" (range -1000 to 1000)
client settable attribute
client gettable attribute (current value is 0)
"XV_BLENDING_MODE" (range 0 to 1)
client settable attribute
client gettable attribute (current value is 0)
"XV_CLEAR_BUFFER" (range 0 to 1)
client settable attribute
client gettable attribute (current value is 1)
"XV_OFFSCREEN_RENDER" (range 0 to 1)
client settable attribute
client gettable attribute (current value is 1)
maximum XvImage size: 4096 x 4096
Number of image formats: 3
id: 0x32315659 (YV12)
guid: 59563132-0000-0010-8000-00aa00389b71
bits per pixel: 12
number of planes: 3
type: YUV (planar)
id: 0x30323449 (I420)
guid: 49343230-0000-0010-8000-00aa00389b71
bits per pixel: 12
number of planes: 3
type: YUV (planar)
id: 0x41424752 (RGBA)
guid: 52474241-0000-0010-8000-00aa00389b71
bits per pixel: 32
number of planes: 1
type: RGB (packed)
depth: 32
red, green, blue masks: 0xff, 0xff, 0xff

Suse 10.1 gives similar problems with video and tv when using the driver from the package, but the driver from the ati site is ok.

How should I proceed now?

[Rog131]

Re: Ati driver problems

To Cyrus Jones

if I boot the Kubuntu CD, Kubuntu loads, but freezes right before KDE should load

Have you tried Ctrl + Alt + F1 (or F2..F6)
Login in the text mode.

Or is the keyboard also frozen.

Ctrl + Alt + F7 is the kdm

Stopping kdm: Ctrl + Alt + F1 (or F2..F6) log in and type /etc/init.d/kdm stop
Starting: /etc/init.d/kdm start
Restarting: /etc/init.d/kdm restart

[Rog131]

Re: Ati driver problems

To eekie

What do ineedto apt-get install /apt-get remove (apt-get --purge remove))?
All fglrx* files?

Hmm - maybe:

fglrx-control
linux-restricted-modules
xorg-driver-fglrx

Do you have xserver-xorg-driver-ati installed ?

To dexter this helpped:

Strangest thing just happened downloaded the xorg core update which screwed up the system downgraded the xorg core and guess what I HAVE 3D WORKING

display: :0.0 screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9800 SE Generic
OpenGL version string: 2.0.5946 (8.27.10)

then upgraded to the fixed core and its still working YIPPEEE

This is from Topic: Ati 9800 SE 3D (http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7951.0)

[eekie]

Re: Ati driver problems

Hallo Rog131
The xserver-xorg-driver-ati is in place.
I removed:
fglrx-control
linux-restricted-modules
xorg-driver-fglrx
and reinstalled the ati driver using the installer from the Ati site.
I installed automatically and installed operating system specific (ubuntu 6.06) but nothing helps.
The 3D is working but not the Ati version.

I slowly tend to give up.
With the vesa driver installed by the kubuntu package at least my video and tv programs are ok. With the ati driver not just GoogleEarth but all video and tv programs crash or stall.

Maybe one thing should still be mentionned. In system settings the screen module cannot be loaded anymore.
Diagnosis:
-something went wrong during last update kde
-old modules of other projects are still present in my configuration centre

Similar problems are met in suse 10.1.
Although xawtv can be started by using the console.

[eekie]

Re: Ati driver problems

I have executed the troubleshout commands of the kubuntu installer method 2 (http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubu...allation_Guide) and now all of a sudden my video pragrams don't crash anymore.
However mplayer is the only one playing both mpg and wmv files, but gives a warning there is no XV support available for my videocard. Other players only play mpg correctly, wmv only sound.
If I give the xvinfo command the following is displayed:

johan@racekubuntu:~$ xvinfo
X-Video Extension version 2.2
screen #0
no adaptors present

although I have run the command:

sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv

GoogleEarth still blocked in the initializing phase

[Rog131]

Re: Ati driver problems

Hmm - do you have in the Section "Device" (xorg.conf):

Option "VideoOverlay" "on"
Option "OpenGLOverlay" "off"
Option "TexturedVideo" "on"

or what ?

I did find this from SUSE 10.0/10.1 Multimedia /1/

AVIVO support
As of June 2006 the ATI driver now supports XV acceleration using the 3D engine for those parts that support AVIVO. You can enable the AVIVO Support using the "TexturedVideo" Option above. This will replace the normal Xv Overlay with an AVIVO Xv Overlay.

/1/ http://www.acaciaclose.co.uk/33727/34627.html

[podunk]

Re: Ati driver problems

FWIW (likely not much) I was able to get very little working on my ATI card with 64 Ubuntu/Kubuntu. Once I installed the i386 version (32 bit) I was able to get things limping along.

My card is much older (9200) than yours, and I used method 2 for Dapper Drake from the wiki.cchtml.org site.

From reading the ATI release notes we can pretty well hang up any idea of achieving the functionality we have in Windows, ATI just isn't willing to spend the effort to fully support it's cards in the Linux world.