Why can't I rid myself of the PITA Kwallet

[urdrwho5]

Now computer for the kitchen, it is used for surfing, looking up recipes and general playing about. I noticed that every freak'in time I start the computer for the wireless to activate I need to use kWallet. Why? This is like MS crap that forces you to do something that you may not wish to do.

Other computers that are in the 14 and 15 ranges didn't have a problem shutting off Kwallet. Apparently it isn't so easy with 16 and doing an internet search I find that there are a heck of a lot of people who aren't thrilled with the pain brought on my Kwallet.

I'm not even found of the alt F2 that lacks the wrench that gave me the ability to shut off certain plugins.

I don't think I'll be migrating my other computers to 16.

[wizard10000]

systemsettings --> Account Details. You can disable kwallet from there.

On krunner missing plugins? Pretty sure that's still a work in progress - with Plasma 5 krunner had to be ported to QML and a buncha plugins haven't caught up yet.

Hope this helps -

[urdrwho5]

Originally I looked there but there were no controls for Kwallet. Then I went to package manager and found the Kwallet needed more installation. Installed it and now Kwallet is available to tic off in Account Details.

I rebooted and the system isn't keeping WiFi passwords. I always have to give the WiFi password. I can remember it but my wife can never remember the password and gets a bit testy over this issue.

The other thing I had to do was install a package manager. Not a fan of Discover Software app.

I installed 16 long term and thought that it would be ready for prime time but maybe not.

systemsettings --> Account Details. You can disable kwallet from there.

On krunner missing plugins? Pretty sure that's still a work in progress - with Plasma 5 krunner had to be ported to QML and a buncha plugins haven't caught up yet.

Hope this helps -

[Rod J]

This might work: I read somewhere on this forum (I think) about creating two wallets, one with no password that you can put passwords like your wifi, etc that don't need to be so secure. Because there's no password required it just gets on with business without requiring input from the user. Then you create another wallet with a proper password for your more secure passwords.

I don't use kwallet myself in K14.04 but I guess it's not so easy to disable in K16.**. Another reason to stick with K14.04. I'm hoping they get things sorted by K18.04!

[urdrwho5]

I'm sorry I hit the update button. I had 15 installed and then (silly me) thought updating to 16 would be good because after all --- it has been out for a while and by now has to have the bugs worked out. Wrong.

I don't even like the new look.

I think the real problem is in the network manager. The network manager doesn't keep the passwords stored.

Originally I looked there but there were no controls for Kwallet. Then I went to package manager and found the Kwallet needed more installation. Installed it and now Kwallet is available to tic off in Account Details.

I rebooted and the system isn't keeping WiFi passwords. I always have to give the WiFi password. I can remember it but my wife can never remember the password and gets a bit testy over this issue.

The other thing I had to do was install a package manager. Not a fan of Discover Software app.

I installed 16 long term and thought that it would be ready for prime time but maybe not.

[wizard10000]

...I think the real problem is in the network manager. The network manager doesn't keep the passwords stored.

Since kwallet is disabled what did you expect?

I don't use KDE's network management tools, preferring to use wicd-kde and wicd-curses to manage wireless networks but my needs are kinda simple. I also haven't found a credential manager I liked, so I don't use kwallet or gnome-keyring

You're not forced to do anything you don't wish to do; I can't think of many things you can do in Linux that don't have at least one alternative.

If kwallet didn't install correctly (for that matter if *any* supported package didn't install correctly) I'd think filing a bug report would be appreciated.

[urdrwho5]

I don't use wallet on any of my other installations and it worked just fine. So I expected it to work fine this time??

Since kwallet is disabled what did you expect?

I don't use KDE's network management tools, preferring to use wicd-kde and wicd-curses to manage wireless networks but my needs are kinda simple. I also haven't found a credential manager I liked, so I don't use kwallet or gnome-keyring

You're not forced to do anything you don't wish to do; I can't think of many things you can do in Linux that don't have at least one alternative.

If kwallet didn't install correctly (for that matter if *any* supported package didn't install correctly) I'd think filing a bug report would be appreciated.

[wizard10000]

I don't use wallet on any of my other installations and it worked just fine. So I expected it to work fine this time??

I won't argue that wallet subsystems are a PITA and I don't care for them either. If you'd like help with alternatives that don't require a keyring we can do that. As mentioned I prefer wicd which is simple, will remember passwords and has a command line client in case I I ever blow up KDE and need internet to get it working again. The down side is that wicd is pretty lean; it's great for home and for public hotspots but maybe not so great in a business environment.

Agree that Discover is useless for me - I had it installed for about ten minutes. I do agree with KDE developer's logic that maybe if you're skilled enough to use a package manager you can install your own; an untrained user can do one heck of a lot of damage with synaptic or muon.

I also don't use any KDE PIM applications or desktop search so akonadi and baloo are also disabled

You might ask why I run KDE when I end up turning off half of it - it's because there's no desktop environment of which I'm aware that's as configurable. Just about every bit of it is tuned to match *my* preferences instead of requiring me to alter my workflow to fit the desktop environment. There are a couple of adjustments I'd like to make to KDE that'd require compiling from source and I'm not doing that because I'm not willing to invest the time required to maintain it, but it meets my needs

[dequire]

Just use Kwallet with no password, and it will remember your WIFI password without prompting you to re-enter it on every boot. If you need to, either make a new wallet, maybe called "WIFI", and choose to not give it a password, or delete the hidden config file for Kwallet and reboot. I cannot remember the file name at the moment as I am on an Ubuntu computer at the moment. If you do the latter, run Kwallet if you're not nagged about it on boot-up and choose an empty password.

[urdrwho5]

Yesterday I added kubuntu-ppa/backports and although it gave me problems in other ways (which I sorted out) the one good thing is the WiFi. I can not disable wallet and the networks manager will remember passwords. Before adding the repository I didn't have the eye and disk looking icon to click on that gave me options to save the password. Now I have the option to save for one user, all users or don't save.

No wallet ---- yea!